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Old Nov 6, 2018 | 11:19 AM
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It's going to be a speedy little thing. With a RAM upgrade and Thunderbolt accessories, I can easily toss out my server tower/gaming bro computer.
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Old Nov 6, 2018 | 11:48 AM
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Maybe I will sell my Pro for the Air. Dammit!!
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Old Nov 6, 2018 | 12:20 PM
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Id stay with the MBP, unless you don't need the higher horsepower, don't need as bright of a screen or don't need P3 color.

since I do photo and some video work. The MBP would be a better choice for me.
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Old Nov 6, 2018 | 12:30 PM
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2018 Mac Mini RAM upgrade should be simple enough if you're slightly tech savvy. Definitely doesn't sound as easy as before thou.

It's a fairly simple procedure, though not as easy as some of the previous minis from 2012 and earlier, necessitating a spudger, and a set of security Torx drivers
also performance wise, the base $799 model out performs my 2012 2.3ghz quad i7

We ran Geekbench 4 a number of times, averaging 4,769 and 14,202 on the single and multi-core tests. That compares well to the late 2012 Mac mini with an i7 processor —the previous multi-core champ —running at 2.3GHz which pulled 3300 and 11480 on the single/multi-core tests.

This also compares very well to the 2014 dual-core 3GHz Core i7 which was the previous single-core champ with 3705 and 7062 single and multi-core performance respectively. Both of these tests put the new low-end Mac mini ahead of all previous models in the family.

For CineBench R15, we averaged around 40 fps on the OpenGL test and a tick above 220 on the CPU test.
https://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...tiest-mini-yet
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Old Nov 6, 2018 | 12:38 PM
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There are hidden screws that require their new Pentatorxlobe screwdriver to remove. Sold exclusively through Apple for $39.99
Originally Posted by Mizouse
2018 Mac Mini RAM upgrade should be simple enough if you're slightly tech savvy. Definitely doesn't sound as easy as before thou.
It's a fairly simple procedure, though not as easy as some of the previous minis from 2012 and earlier, necessitating a spudger, and a set of security Torx drivers
So I was kinda right? Oh, Apple. "Security screws" for RAM?
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Old Nov 6, 2018 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AZuser
So I was kinda right? Oh, Apple. "Security screws" for RAM?
im guessing the process is:
1) remove bottom plate
2) security screws is to remove a cowling
3) remove/loosen screws holding the logic board to the case
4) use spudger to disconnect/slide out logic board from the case just enough to fully reach the memory slots

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Old Nov 6, 2018 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse


im guessing the process is:
1) remove bottom plate
2) security screws is to remove a cowling
3) remove/loosen screws holding the logic board to the case
4) use spudger to disconnect/slide out logic board from the case just enough to fully reach the memory slots

Very likely so
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Old Nov 6, 2018 | 09:16 PM
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Jump to the 7:55 mark where he takes off the bottom of the Mac Mini

Definitely not THAT easy.

https://www.idg.tv/video/91907/new-m...ng?jwsource=cl

Thankfully upgrading ram is typically a one time thing.

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Old Nov 6, 2018 | 10:41 PM
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Apple should have made the opening/cover squared vs round. Oh, but then they'd be enabling easier user upgrades and repairs. Can't do that.
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 09:28 AM
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The opening has been round for as long as I can remember

and even when it was round memory was easy to access




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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse


im guessing the process is:
1) remove bottom plate
2) security screws is to remove a cowling
3) remove/loosen screws holding the logic board to the case
4) use spudger to disconnect/slide out logic board from the case just enough to fully reach the memory slots

so I was a tiny bit off. Sort of.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads...150796/page-19


edit: here's a walk through.

http://www.trunghoangphotography.com...-2018-mac-mini


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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 09:24 AM
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Ifixit tear down of the Mac mini.

RAM could be replaced. SSD is soldered. CPU is soldered.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Mac+...eardown/115210
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 09:57 AM
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I played with the mini at the Apple Store last night.

It was the 6-core i5 model.

tried exporting with Final Cut Pro their sample 4k 24fps project in ProRes 422 HQ, ohh man it was kind of slow.
Went over to the iMac Pro they had on display. Exported their sample 4k 25fps project also in ProRes 422 HQ with no problem.
That Vega 56 makes a big difference

The mini was a bit warm and got warmer when exporting, but no where near as hot as my 2012 gets while watching 4k videos on YouTube









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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 09:59 AM
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Ohh and that LG 5K display

looked better IMO than the display on the iMac Pro.
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 10:14 AM
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Just buy it already
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Just buy it already


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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
I played with the mini at the Apple Store last night.

It was the 6-core i5 model.

tried exporting with Final Cut Pro their sample 4k 24fps project in ProRes 422 HQ, ohh man it was kind of slow.
Went over to the iMac Pro they had on display. Exported their sample 4k 25fps project also in ProRes 422 HQ with no problem.
That Vega 56 makes a big difference
Were you expecting the iMac Pro with an 8 core Xeon processor, a dedicated GPU, and probably more RAM to not perform much better than the Mac mini with a 6 core i5, built in GPU, and that sells for 1/5 (?) the price of the iMac Pro?
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Were you expecting the iMac Pro with an 8 core Xeon processor, a dedicated GPU, and probably more RAM to not perform much better than the Mac mini with a 6 core i5, built in GPU, and that sells for 1/5 (?) the price of the iMac Pro?
of course not.

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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 12:35 PM
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If any of you are interested in the MBA and are near a Micro Center, they're offering this weekend $200 off.

the base MBA would be $999

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/09...8-macbook-air/


closest one to me is Tustin, CA

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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
If any of you are interested in the MBA and are near a Micro Center, they're offering this week $200 off.

the base MBA would be $999

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/09...8-macbook-air/


closest one to me is Tustin, CA

I'm down the street. Can pick one up for you if you'd like
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
I'm down the street. Can pick one up for you if you'd like
Originally Posted by Mizouse




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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 12:46 PM
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Can't help you there..
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
If any of you are interested in the MBA and are near a Micro Center, they're offering this weekend $200 off.

the base MBA would be $999

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/09...8-macbook-air/
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 12:55 PM
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No upgraded space gray though
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Old Nov 10, 2018 | 10:27 AM
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I really thought about replacing my aging MacBook Pro with one of the new iPad Pro. I'm very impressed with the performance.

But what's stopping me is the limitations of USB-C. I don't know why they'd be switching from Lightning to USB-C if they're not going to let us attach USB-C accessories without limitations.

I guess I'll wait to see if future versions of iOS remove those limitations. :-(
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Old Nov 10, 2018 | 01:00 PM
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I don't know why they'd be switching from Lightning to USB-C if they're not going to let us attach USB-C accessories without limitations.
Accessory sales.
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Accessory sales.
Will they earn more from accessory sales than they would earn from people who are now holding onto the MacBook instead of buying a new iPad Pro?

:-)

These kinds of accessories will be getting around iOS, so they're likely to be made by people other than Apple.

Without help, iOS just isn't going to recognize every USB-C/Thunderbolt accessory the way that your MacBook does. You'll have to move things onto the iCloud space first, or something, before you can get those same things onto the iPad.

There's an aftermarket company already on the verge of releasing an add-on piece that is basically a USB-C connected metal bar. It attaches to the USB-C of the iPad and the other side has USB-C, USB-A, and HDMI ports. They're saying that iOS will recognize devices connected to this bar, but I'll believe it when I see it.

It's got to be cheap, too, considering how much people would pay for an iPad Pro.
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 08:19 AM
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Or maybe just wait for iOS 13?
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Old Nov 18, 2018 | 10:36 AM
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Old Nov 19, 2018 | 09:14 AM
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I have not understood the hoo-ra about 3.5 mm jacks.

I cannot even remember the last time I used headphones other than the Bluetooth variety.
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Old Nov 19, 2018 | 10:12 AM
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I use mine almost daily. I use my earbuds in the office when I want to talk on the phone without having to hold the phone and don't want to use speakerphone.

I use them for either talking on the iPhone or plugged into my laptop to talk on skype/ringcentral/chime etc.
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Old Nov 23, 2018 | 03:14 AM
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Soon I'll be able to relegate my 13" MacBook Pro away from being my main desktop. Just ordered a 5K iMac with the 4.2 i7, Radeon Pro 580, and 512GB SSD. I hate that it's a year and a half old hardware, but an update is probably months away and I'm sick of waiting.
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Old Nov 23, 2018 | 10:44 PM
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I don't know why I didn't do this a long time ago, this was super easy to install.

Upgraded my 2012 i7 Mac Mini's stock internal 1TB 5400rpm hard drive to a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD.

Was running my Mini off a 250GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD in a USB3.0 enclosure.


Probably going to buy and install a 500GB SSD into my mom's 2011 Mac Mini.



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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 06:40 PM
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I have to come clean, guys.

I was an Apple hater for a long, long time. Never understood the cult of personality of Steve Jobs. All of my iPods from the past got scratched to absolute shit with or without a case. If the wind hit them at a certain angle, it seemed like they would develop 1-2 hairline scratches from just that.

A lot of their products seemed to be overpriced, and I didn't understand why. But in the last few years they've won me over. Build quality is superb, and it shows in product durability and longevity. I always thought the "it just works" phrase was cheesy purchase justification but I understand now. I have an XS Max, iPad, watch, AirPods, and I use a MBP at work. They work flawlessly together, controls are intuitive, and customer service has been great too unlike with certain other brands (looking at you, Sony). I have some reservations about my XS Max but otherwise works great. I tried my damndest to go back to Android before my XS but couldn't pull the trigger on anything else.
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 06:51 PM
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I used to be a hater too but now I’m the same
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Old Dec 12, 2018 | 04:04 PM
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Old Dec 13, 2018 | 07:08 AM
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Looks like Costco going to start selling these. I wonder if pricing will be any better or they'll just throw in accessories at a discount.
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Old Dec 13, 2018 | 09:20 AM
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Old Dec 13, 2018 | 10:23 AM
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Fuuuuu

I don't really have a use for a Mac at home. But that's a good deal. Apple hardware never goes on sale, right?
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Old Dec 13, 2018 | 10:33 AM
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Fuuuuu

I don't really have a use for a Mac at home. But that's a good deal. Apple hardware never goes on sale, right?
From apple directly...not a lot. But usual B&H or best buy or others run promotions with minor discounts similar to what costco is offering. You can also get refurbished form apple which is like buying new and usually saves a great deal of money.
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