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10-31-2018, 11:37 AM
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I think my wife may notice the size difference here. Yikes
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10-31-2018, 11:43 AM
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10-31-2018, 11:45 AM
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Tom's Hardware got confirmation from Intel regarding the in-silicon mitigations delivered in the 8th gen Core U-Series 15W mobile processors. It was following up a Tweet from industry analyst Ashraf Eassa, suggesting that Intel's new chips might support the new mitigations. Please note that the simultaneously launched Intel 8th gen Core Y-Series mobile 5W processors (Amber Lake) don't come with any such hardware fixes. Tom's Hardware compiled the following table to make clear what is patched in hardware/software with the new processors:
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10-31-2018, 11:52 AM
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why would you choose the base mbp over the Air? The only benefit the mbp has is a higher CPU clock speed. You're probably not going to notice that in real world usage, in synthetic benchmarks there'll be a difference but, I'd rather have TouchID, longer battery life, a laptop that weighs a 1/4lb lb less, and $100 than CPU that is a few % faster
The new Air being 0.21 pounds (0.08 kg) lighter is negligible for me. Plus, I don't really car about TouchID or extra 2 hours of battery life. And if you get the base MBP as refurb, it's $1,099, so you'd save $100 over the new Air.
10-31-2018, 11:53 AM
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Compared the 2 on the Apple website.
How does the Intel UHD Graphics 617 compare to the Iris Plus Graphics 640 on the MBP?
The MBA display has 300nit brightness vs 500 on the MBP.
MBA display has standard color vs Wide Color (P3) on the MBP.
also 1/4 lbs is only 4oz. That's like a deck of cards or $5 in quarters
How does the Intel UHD Graphics 617 compare to the Iris Plus Graphics 640 on the MBP?
The MBA display has 300nit brightness vs 500 on the MBP.
MBA display has standard color vs Wide Color (P3) on the MBP.
also 1/4 lbs is only 4oz. That's like a deck of cards or $5 in quarters
10-31-2018, 11:59 AM
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I can't see it documented anywhere yet, but are both TB3 ports full speed ports on the MBA?
Or is it like the 2016 13" MBP where some are slow and some are full speed?
Or is it like the 2016 13" MBP where some are slow and some are full speed?
10-31-2018, 12:05 PM
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the $799 model? I don't think I could get by with just 128gb.
256gb at the minimum. If I want to backup my iOS devices locally (in addition to iCloud) then I'd need minimum 512gb.
my current 2012 Mac mini has a 256gb SSD.
ive got about 60gb free, can't even backup my iPhone
256gb at the minimum. If I want to backup my iOS devices locally (in addition to iCloud) then I'd need minimum 512gb.
my current 2012 Mac mini has a 256gb SSD.
ive got about 60gb free, can't even backup my iPhone
10-31-2018, 12:09 PM
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the $799 model? I don't think I could get by with just 128gb.
256gb at the minimum. If I want to backup my iOS devices locally (in addition to iCloud) then I'd need minimum 512gb.
my current 2012 Mac mini has a 256gb SSD.
ive got about 60gb free, can't even backup my iPhone
One of the Mac Minis is for my mom. It'll be overkill.
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10-31-2018, 12:26 PM
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To each his own
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10-31-2018, 12:33 PM
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i may update my moms as well. She has a 2011 mini.
No USB3 so an external SSD would run slow.
can't seem to find an affordable TB1 SSD or enclosure.
Also no powernap feature so her pictures don't auto save from photo stream until she logs in. (Which isn't often)
Oooorrr upgrade mine and give her my 2012
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10-31-2018, 12:34 PM
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10-31-2018, 12:57 PM
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10-31-2018, 01:02 PM
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Thanks stunna.
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10-31-2018, 03:58 PM
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yo noice! you got to split that reward with me!
10-31-2018, 04:26 PM
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10-31-2018, 04:30 PM
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10-31-2018, 04:44 PM
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yes it's user upgradable.
also during the keynote the guy specifically mentioned SODIMM.
10-31-2018, 05:17 PM
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Sweet! Thanks! But this thread moved 100 mph in last day.
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10-31-2018, 05:23 PM
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Are they really charging $200 to go from 128GB SSD to 256GB SSD or am I missing something?
10-31-2018, 05:25 PM
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Yep...
10-31-2018, 05:48 PM
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Apple keeping the old MacBook Air around (and still charging $999 for it 
) for Black Friday or something? Too much inventory?
) for Black Friday or something? Too much inventory?
10-31-2018, 06:40 PM
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10-31-2018, 06:48 PM
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Starting to get tired of paying the Apple tax.
10-31-2018, 08:13 PM
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At Amazon I can get a 120GB SSD for $30 and I can get a 240GB for $40. But from Apple that'll be $200 please. Samsung 970 256GB EVO is ~$90
10-31-2018, 08:41 PM
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Yeah but then you try a PC and it overall sucks.
Or, you get one of the upper level PCs like the Dell XPS line and you realize you're paying a hefty sum for a Windows machine that runs Windows.
I agree the Apple tax is bad, but OS X and the ecosystem are still a differentiator.
Or, you get one of the upper level PCs like the Dell XPS line and you realize you're paying a hefty sum for a Windows machine that runs Windows.
I agree the Apple tax is bad, but OS X and the ecosystem are still a differentiator.
11-01-2018, 09:41 AM
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*cough cough* Hackintosh! 
11-01-2018, 10:57 AM
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I was super pissed when they got rid of mag safe. But meh, time has moved on, I havent had any issues and I find it pretty valuable to be able to choose which port I can charge from as my set up sometimes has me needing to switch from the left to right sides.
11-01-2018, 10:58 AM
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There are a few decent magnet connected USB C cables.
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11-01-2018, 06:58 PM
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yup seen them at best buy, but don't they take up one of the ports? Otherwise it's a pain to unplug them
11-01-2018, 08:21 PM
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I just leave one plugged in
11-02-2018, 09:25 AM
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For my use, I'll pay the $100 for the MBP. Or get the refurb.
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/01...018-benchmark/
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/01...018-benchmark/
11-02-2018, 09:28 AM
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11-02-2018, 12:09 PM
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Looking at the bottom of the 2018 Mac Mini.
i wonder how the ram can be accessed. It looks like it's missing the thumb grooves to remove the bottom plate of the mini.
Older Mac mini.
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11-02-2018, 12:36 PM
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There are hidden screws that require their new Pentatorxlobe screwdriver to remove. Sold exclusively through Apple for $39.99 
11-02-2018, 12:50 PM
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11-02-2018, 02:31 PM
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3.2ghz Mac Mini is comparable to the 2.9ghz MacBook Pro.
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/02...mark-surfaces/
11-02-2018, 11:50 PM
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3.2ghz Mac Mini is comparable to the 2.9ghz MacBook Pro.
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/02...mark-surfaces/
Still hoping for something in the next 3 weeks
11-06-2018, 11:10 AM
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Saw this on the Mac Mini review by macworld.
hopefully when ifixit does their tear down we can see how the RAM is accessed.
https://www.macworld.com/article/331...tml#tk.rss_all
i was kind of thinking it might not be as easily accessed as my 2012 because based off the pictures of the 2018, part of the RAM is recessed inside the case.
hopefully when ifixit does their tear down we can see how the RAM is accessed.
The $799 Mac mini comes standard with 8GB of 2666MHz DDR4 memory, installed as a pair of 4GB SO-DIMMs. The mini supports a maximum of 64GB, and you can upgrade the memory later, but Apple doesn’t consider the Mac mini to be user-configurable, and it recommends that memory upgrades be performed by a certified Apple service provider.
i was kind of thinking it might not be as easily accessed as my 2012 because based off the pictures of the 2018, part of the RAM is recessed inside the case.
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11-06-2018, 11:12 AM
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I may receive mine today, most likely tomorrow. But realistically I won't have a chance to play around with it until next week. I'll be in Mexico.
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11-06-2018, 11:14 AM
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Also didn't realize they are using 65w DESKTOP CPUs not Laptop CPUs like in the past.
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