Technology Get the latest on technology, electronics and software…

Apple: Hardware News and Discussion Thread

Thread Tools
 
Old 07-14-2018, 09:11 AM
  #3041  
Grandpa
 
George Knighton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Virginia, Besieged
Age: 68
Posts: 7,596
Received 2,609 Likes on 1,475 Posts
Originally Posted by Mizouse
That GPU performance thou...
I think that for most of us, around the time you move to Mac is around the time you've stopped wasting time on games. :-)

Or maybe that's just me.
Old 07-14-2018, 09:12 AM
  #3042  
Grandpa
 
George Knighton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Virginia, Besieged
Age: 68
Posts: 7,596
Received 2,609 Likes on 1,475 Posts
Interesting that those new iPhones about to be announced still won't have any version of 5G, even though 5G will be well under deployment by at least two carriers by the time of the Fall 2019 announcements.

At least there's a good chance of Band 71 and faster LTE this time. :-)
Old 07-14-2018, 11:36 AM
  #3043  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 45
Posts: 49,122
Received 4,824 Likes on 2,571 Posts
Originally Posted by George Knighton
I think that for most of us, around the time you move to Mac is around the time you've stopped wasting time on games. :-)

Or maybe that's just me.
GPU performance applies to much more than just games. Rendering for graphics programs. Lots of artists use Apple.
The following users liked this post:
Mizouse (07-14-2018)
Old 07-14-2018, 03:39 PM
  #3044  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
Yes what Sarlacc said.

another use for GPUs are rendering and exporting with video editing apps such as Davinci Resolve, Adobe Premiere and FCPX.
Old 07-14-2018, 07:16 PM
  #3045  
nnInn
 
jupitersolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 37,670
Received 1,084 Likes on 646 Posts
Originally Posted by George Knighton
Interesting that those new iPhones about to be announced still won't have any version of 5G, even though 5G will be well under deployment by at least two carriers by the time of the Fall 2019 announcements.

At least there's a good chance of Band 71 and faster LTE this time. :-)
what two carriers?
Old 07-15-2018, 03:05 PM
  #3046  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
Originally Posted by Mizouse
Yes what Sarlacc said.

another use for GPUs are rendering and exporting with video editing apps such as Davinci Resolve, Adobe Premiere and FCPX.
actually even watching 4K footage with a discrete GPU helps take the load off the CPU.

When I watch 4K content that I've recorded or even off YouTube my 2012 Mac Mini's fans spin up really loud.

I've read that even a 2014 with Intel Iris graphics will do the same.
Old 07-19-2018, 02:48 PM
  #3047  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 45
Posts: 49,122
Received 4,824 Likes on 2,571 Posts
Whiskers would have just gone impotent.

Out of the blue my wife won a 12.9" 512gb iPad Pro and pencil. And as tempted as I was to rip it open to compare it to my 10.5" model she wanted to sell it. So, I just got back from doing just that. The cash is nice, but I have to admit it hurt a wee bit.
Old 07-19-2018, 03:32 PM
  #3048  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts


glad you were able to sell it. Sucks with all the trouble you have.
Old 07-19-2018, 03:36 PM
  #3049  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 45
Posts: 49,122
Received 4,824 Likes on 2,571 Posts
Originally Posted by Mizouse


glad you were able to sell it. Sucks with all the trouble you have.
right

I was just thinking with Whiskers it would been like handing him a puppy and then telling him to get rid of it.

Dealing with craigslist though. So many fucking scammers...and its so painfully obvious. I just fuck with them.
The following users liked this post:
Mizouse (07-19-2018)
Old 07-19-2018, 03:42 PM
  #3050  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
My friend does the same thing too.

He also stalks them and pulls up their their social media info
Old 07-19-2018, 03:54 PM
  #3051  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 45
Posts: 49,122
Received 4,824 Likes on 2,571 Posts
Originally Posted by Mizouse
My friend does the same thing too.

He also stalks them and pulls up their their social media info
Well, if they ask for your number that usually sign number one...so I say give me yours. Anytime I get a number I run it through the Hiya app to see who owns it. But its alway obvious. My ad specifically stated in the title and ad "Factory Sealed, Brand new" And the first question you get is "does it have any scratches or dents. Is it in good condition"....scam. So, I just fuck with them. Or the best ones "Im interesting in your product"....really now? Scammer just carpet bombing craigslist til they find someone.
Old 07-19-2018, 04:08 PM
  #3052  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
My friend had an annoying one that tried to steal his phone number with google voice.
Old 07-19-2018, 07:23 PM
  #3053  
Go Giants
 
Whiskers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Age: 52
Posts: 69,899
Received 1,231 Likes on 821 Posts
Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Whiskers would have just gone impotent.

Out of the blue my wife won a 12.9" 512gb iPad Pro and pencil. And as tempted as I was to rip it open to compare it to my 10.5" model she wanted to sell it. So, I just got back from doing just that. The cash is nice, but I have to admit it hurt a wee bit.
A while ago I bought my wife an iPad for Valentines day and she made me return it because she said should didnt understand the reason for it. The store screwed up when they sold it and gave me a 64GB model instead of a 32 model too. a month later she bought herself one saying she was wrong. That hurt.
The following 2 users liked this post by Whiskers:
Mizouse (07-19-2018), Sarlacc (07-19-2018)
Old 07-19-2018, 07:25 PM
  #3054  
Go Giants
 
Whiskers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Age: 52
Posts: 69,899
Received 1,231 Likes on 821 Posts
Originally Posted by Whiskers
Unrelated, anyone interested in a 2017 13 inch pro or a 2017 12 inch Macbook?
Seriously getting to the point of selling for the 2018. I need to stop
The following users liked this post:
Mizouse (07-19-2018)
Old 07-19-2018, 07:36 PM
  #3055  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
For your use, what does the 2018 offer that the 2017 doesn't?
Old 07-19-2018, 08:09 PM
  #3056  
Go Giants
 
Whiskers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Age: 52
Posts: 69,899
Received 1,231 Likes on 821 Posts
Originally Posted by Mizouse
For your use, what does the 2018 offer that the 2017 doesn't?
Happiness
Old 07-19-2018, 10:25 PM
  #3057  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
Originally Posted by Whiskers
Happiness
Old 07-19-2018, 10:43 PM
  #3058  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 45
Posts: 49,122
Received 4,824 Likes on 2,571 Posts
Originally Posted by Whiskers
Happiness
my friend is going from a 2017 to a 2018. He said the True Tone display is huge for him and he wants the quieter keyboard.

He he has also stopped buying macs outright and does everything via Apple’s instore line of credit/leasing.
Old 07-20-2018, 07:54 AM
  #3059  
Go Giants
 
Whiskers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Age: 52
Posts: 69,899
Received 1,231 Likes on 821 Posts
Originally Posted by Sarlacc


my friend is going from a 2017 to a 2018. He said the True Tone display is huge for him and he wants the quieter keyboard.

He he has also stopped buying macs outright and does everything via Apple’s instore line of credit/leasing.
I played with the True Tone yesterday in the store. It was fine, but not really a reason to get it. The keyboard issue doesnt bother me too much since I have two laptops and Apple care, plus Apple extended it to 4 years. The speed would be the reason, but to be honest, I dont need it. My 13 inch Pro is maxed out so its plenty fast.
Old 07-20-2018, 09:57 AM
  #3060  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
Old 10-04-2018, 03:00 AM
  #3061  
Currently Post-Acura
 
MaxMike93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Bergen County, NJ
Age: 31
Posts: 982
Received 125 Likes on 88 Posts
Time to (keep) checking MacRumors for new iMac info. I had been planning to get one all year, but now that the GPU in my old MacBook Pro acting as my desktop decided to die I'll be jumping on the order button as soon as a refresh gets released. Sucks since the logic board was replaced once two years ago but that repair program ended in 2016. Really nice of it since I just formatted the SSD and reinstalled macOS last week . Now it's a mess of kernel panics and lines/colors as soon as I plug in my external monitor. Using my 13-inch on the stand by itself until Amazon delivers a DisplayPort cable tomorrow so I at least get the monitor back, but my NAS is giving me permissions problems for all the folders I already backed up.
Old 10-18-2018, 01:11 PM
  #3062  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
iPad and Mac event October 30th 10am EST.

cmon new Mac mini!






Old 10-18-2018, 01:55 PM
  #3063  
Go Giants
 
Whiskers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Age: 52
Posts: 69,899
Received 1,231 Likes on 821 Posts
Old 10-18-2018, 03:42 PM
  #3064  
Sanest Florida Man
 
#1 STUNNA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 43,356
Received 10,112 Likes on 6,104 Posts
I should sell my iPads now
Old 10-18-2018, 05:25 PM
  #3065  
Go Giants
 
Whiskers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Age: 52
Posts: 69,899
Received 1,231 Likes on 821 Posts
I sold my iPad Pro 10.5 and 2017 Macbook 12 a few weeks ago to prep
Old 10-18-2018, 05:31 PM
  #3066  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
I should sell my iPad. I rarely use it.

waste of money.
Old 10-19-2018, 07:22 AM
  #3067  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
They had their run. But outside of commercial use, they seem pretty useless IMO.
Old 10-19-2018, 08:43 AM
  #3068  
Go Giants
 
Whiskers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Age: 52
Posts: 69,899
Received 1,231 Likes on 821 Posts
I wouldnt go that far
Old 10-19-2018, 10:11 AM
  #3069  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
I think Apple cannibalized it's use when it increased its phone sizes. People realized they'd settle for a 6" or whatever size the bigger phones are rather than hold an iPad.
Old 10-19-2018, 10:57 AM
  #3070  
nnInn
 
jupitersolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 37,670
Received 1,084 Likes on 646 Posts
Larger phones aren’t taking away from iPad/ tablets sales. Pads and tablets are taking away PC/laptop sales. Those sales are down for the sixth straight year.
Old 10-19-2018, 11:00 AM
  #3071  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
I stopped using my iPad 3rd gen once I got the iPhone 6 Plus

Old 10-19-2018, 12:10 PM
  #3072  
nnInn
 
jupitersolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 37,670
Received 1,084 Likes on 646 Posts
Originally Posted by Mizouse
I stopped using my iPad 3rd gen once I got the iPhone 6 Plus

I'm looking at sales numbers, and that companies that use to make computers and laptops, no longer do. It's down to about five Major brands. And if people are doing what you're doing, means just as many are dumping desktops and laptops for pads and tablets.
Old 10-19-2018, 01:09 PM
  #3073  
_
 
AZuser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 18,692
Received 3,097 Likes on 1,867 Posts
Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Pads and tablets are taking away PC/laptop sales. Those sales are down for the sixth straight year.
Do you mean Mac sales are down or all computer sales? If Mac sales, they've fluctuated. When there's an update, sales grow. When there's no update for a year or more, they dip. If the event this month brings new Mac mini, iMac, and Macbook (Air) updates, I expect Mac sales to jump again.

Q4 2018 = ? -- Reports Nov. 1 , 2018. Back to school sales should be decent.
Q3 2018 = 3720
Q2 2018 = 4078
Q1 2018 = 5112
YTD: 12,910

Q4 2017 = 5386
Q3 2017 = 4292
Q2 2017 = 4199
Q1 2017 = 5374
Total: 19,251

Q4 2016 = 4886
Q3 2016 = 4252
Q2 2016 = 4034
Q1 2016 = 5312
Total: 18,484

Q4 2015 = 5709
Q3 2015 = 4796
Q2 2015 = 4563
Q1 2015 = 5519
Total: 20,587

Q4 2014 = 5520
Q3 2014 = 4413
Q2 2014 = 4136
Q1 2014 = 4837
Total: 18,906


If Windows PC sales, they've been slowly turning around and growing since late last year.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/1...tner-july-2018

PC sales are growing for the first time in six years

Jul 13, 2018

Shipments of PCs are definitely growing, for the first time in six years. Market research firms Gartner and IDC both agree that the PC market grew in the second quarter of 2018, with IDC claiming an increase of 2.7 percent and Gartner recording a more modest 1.4 percent of growth. IDC first revealed the PC market was starting to flatten and show potential growth last year, but both Gartner and IDC track PC shipments differently.

IDC’s data crucially includes Chromebooks and excludes Windows tablets including devices with a detachable keyboard like the Surface Pro. Gartner counts Windows-based tablets as PCs and excludes Chromebooks or any non-Windows-based tablets. Chromebooks appeared to be powering some PC growth last year, but now that Gartner is tracking overall growth it’s clear this is also from regular Windows PCs or Macs, and not just from Android tablets or Chromebooks. This is the first year-over-year PC shipment growth since the first quarter of 2012.

Windows 10 business PCs appear to be powering some of the growth. “PC shipment growth in the second quarter of 2018 was driven by demand in the business market, which was offset by declining shipments in the consumer segment,” says Mikako Kitagawa, principal analyst at Gartner. “In the business segment, PC momentum will weaken in two years when the replacement peak for Windows 10 passes.”

IDC agrees that a business-driven refresh cycle is helping. “Although traditional PCs may not be the default device for many usage scenarios, the market continues to show pockets of resiliency as PC usage experience evolves and improves,” says Jay Chou, research manager at IDC. “Even certain types of desktops are seeing growth amid this business-driven refresh cycle.”

HP, Lenovo, Dell, Apple, and Acer all grew their PC businesses in the recent quarter, with competitors continuing to weaken. It’s clear that the top five manufacturers will continue to dominate the market as PC sales appear to be stabilizing after years of declines.
Old 10-19-2018, 03:08 PM
  #3074  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 45
Posts: 49,122
Received 4,824 Likes on 2,571 Posts
I use my iPad pro 10.5 all the time. Its more or less replaced my laptop as a main/everyday machine. I also do all my photography exclusively on it as well.

They can't replace a computer 100% just yet...but they are at about 90-95%.
Old 10-19-2018, 06:02 PM
  #3075  
nnInn
 
jupitersolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 37,670
Received 1,084 Likes on 646 Posts
That PC growth is all business driven, it’ll fall after 12-18 months.
Old 10-19-2018, 06:45 PM
  #3076  
Go Giants
 
Whiskers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Age: 52
Posts: 69,899
Received 1,231 Likes on 821 Posts
A tablet is close to being able to replace the laptop but lack of a trackpad or mouse kills it for me at least on an iPad. I do a lot of remote support and you need a mouse to work in the remote session. I actually sold my 10.5 pro and bought a Surface Go. I don't really consider it a tablet because it runs a full OS but it works for me and I do like it.
Old 10-23-2018, 02:56 PM
  #3077  
Sanest Florida Man
 
#1 STUNNA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 43,356
Received 10,112 Likes on 6,104 Posts
SurfaceGo is amazing
Old 10-23-2018, 02:59 PM
  #3078  
Go Giants
 
Whiskers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Age: 52
Posts: 69,899
Received 1,231 Likes on 821 Posts
Old 10-30-2018, 09:11 AM
  #3079  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
MBA with Retina display
Old 10-30-2018, 09:15 AM
  #3080  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,171
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
Looks like USB-C only

edit: Theyre Thunderbolt 3.

Last edited by Mizouse; 10-30-2018 at 09:19 AM.


Quick Reply: Apple: Hardware News and Discussion Thread



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:23 PM.