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I was all set to place an order for a spec bumped iMac, but since that didn't happen I don't know what to order now. I'm sure the current 5K would handle whatever I would throw at it, but buying 2017 specs will eat at me. Some people say there's a possibility of a spec bump in the coming weeks since MacBook Pros are going to get new graphics options soon. Might wait for Black Friday and see if Micro Center discounts the iMac Pro, but even dropped down to $4000 is just a lot for something where I simply don't need 8 cores, 32GB RAM, or 1TB of SSD.
I'm familiar with the i3 8100. Built a friend an inexpensive PC with one earlier this year when Fry's was selling them for around $85. Apple probably gets them in bulk for like $50 or less.
What current processor isn't better than the old dual cores the old Mac mini's used? I know i3 8100 is a solid processor. I'm just saying $799 for it is a lot.
I’ll pay the Apple Tax, I’m still useing a six year old MBP as my main computer. No hiccups or issues with it with ANY OS upgrade. When I was using Windows every upgrade would cause problems with my computer. And would have to upgrade parts or buy a brand new one. And now with Windows FORCED upgrades, fuck them!
and the Air is the best mac they've made in years, still sucks it's only Type C, the lack of mag safe and the thought of all the dongles are what's killing it for me. my rMBP is still doing great though it's battery life isn't what it used to be
My initial thought was to get the 2018 15 inch Pro, sell my 2017 13 inch pro and get the Air as well for a travel laptop. Then Im like, why would I want the Air over my 13 inch pro, so Ill keep it
and the Air is the best mac they've made in years, still sucks it's only Type C, the lack of mag safe and the thought of all the dongles are what's killing it for me. my rMBP is still doing great though it's battery life isn't what it used to be
the loss of the magsafe was the most "WTF" change Apple has made to their Macbooks.
And a number of reviewers LOVED the removal of the magsafe. Ridiculous. Who doesn't want kids and animals dragging $2000 macbooks off a table?
As awesome as Magsafe was. They went ahead of curve for once in adopting USB C as the only source of charging. All laptops are going to go that route eventually, even PCs. The Lenovo X1 carbons and Dell XPS's are already there with USB C charging.
Embrace the future Kurt!!! Having one USB C cable. To connect your display, charge, and being able to Daisy chain hard drives is a real winner!!
My initial thought was to get the 2018 15 inch Pro, sell my 2017 13 inch pro and get the Air as well for a travel laptop. Then Im like, why would I want the Air over my 13 inch pro, so Ill keep it
I'm not even sure I'd want the new Air over the base MPB. Curiously waiting for the CPU and GPU benchmark comparisons.
MacBook Air $1,199
1.6GHz dual-core 8th-generation Intel Core i5 processor with Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz (i5-8210Y)
Retina display
8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
128GB SSD storage
Intel UHD Graphics 617
Two Thunderbolt 3 ports
Up to 12 hours wireless web
Up to 13 hours iTunes movie playback
Up to 30 days of standby time
Height: 0.16–0.61 inch (0.41–1.56 cm)
Width: 11.97 inches (30.41 cm)
Depth: 8.36 inches (21.24 cm)
Weight: 2.75 pounds (1.25 kg)
MacBook Pro $1,299
2.3GHz dual-core 7th-generation Intel Core i5 processor with Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz (i5-7360U)
Retina display
8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
128GB SSD storage
Intel Iris Plus Graphics 640
Two Thunderbolt 3 ports
Up to 10 hours wireless web
Up to 10 hours iTunes movie playback
Up to 30 days of standby time
Height: 0.59 inch (1.49 cm)
Width: 11.97 inches (30.41 cm)
Depth: 8.36 inches (21.24 cm)
Weight: 3.02 pounds (1.37 kg)
I'm not even sure I'd want the new Air over the base MPB. Curiously waiting for the CPU and GPU benchmark comparisons.
MacBook Air $1,199
1.6GHz dual-core 8th-generation Intel Core i5 processor with Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz (i5-8210Y)
Retina display
8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
128GB SSD storage
Intel UHD Graphics 617
Two Thunderbolt 3 ports
Up to 12 hours wireless web
Up to 13 hours iTunes movie playback
Up to 30 days of standby time
Height: 0.16–0.61 inch (0.41–1.56 cm)
Width: 11.97 inches (30.41 cm)
Depth: 8.36 inches (21.24 cm)
Weight: 2.75 pounds (1.25 kg)
MacBook Pro $1,299
2.3GHz dual-core 7th-generation Intel Core i5 processor with Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz (i5-7360U)
Retina display
8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
128GB SSD storage
Intel Iris Plus Graphics 640
Two Thunderbolt 3 ports
Up to 10 hours wireless web
Up to 10 hours iTunes movie playback
Up to 30 days of standby time
Height: 0.59 inch (1.49 cm)
Width: 11.97 inches (30.41 cm)
Depth: 8.36 inches (21.24 cm)
Weight: 3.02 pounds (1.37 kg)
why would you choose the base mbp over the Air? The only benefit the mbp has is a higher CPU clock speed. You're probably not going to notice that in real world usage, in synthetic benchmarks there'll be a difference but, I'd rather have TouchID, longer battery life, a laptop that weighs a 1/4lb lb less, and $100 than CPU that is a few % faster
The Air also has more microphones like the MBP's with the touch bar.
The MBP does have a 60w charger and the Air only has 30w
Also the 8th gen Intel processor has hardware mitigation for spectre and meltdown so they don't need a software patch that reduced performance in the 7th gen and older Intel processors. So that could narrow the performance gap as well.
10-30-2018, 09:16 AM
Mac Mini
time to drive to work. 
Oh, Apple.
it's working on mine so far
