on that price

 

Oddly I don't think they are targeting Echo or Google Home with it. It appears for some reason they are going after Sonos instead with the added ability of siri. That is at least the way I took it from the presentation. To me that is an odd stance to take as the market for that I don't believe is very large. Also was there any mention of how they would interact at all if you had more than one of them in your home?

 

Ohh what!! FINALLY!

magic keyboard with numpad!

Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad - US English

https://store.apple.com/xc/product/MQ052LL/A



at $130

 

Can't believe this shit took THIS LONG

 

At first I was like, "Cool! Apple dropped the price on the new 13" non-touchbar MBP to $1,299." But now I see that the price dropped only because it went from the original's 256GB storage to 128GB.

The new model with the 256GB SSD is still the same $1,499.

$1,269 for Refurbished 13.3-inch MacBook Pro 2.0GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5 with Retina Display - Space Gray

Originally released October 2016
13.3-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit display; 2560-by-1600 native resolution at 227 pixels per inch
8GB of 1866MHz LPDDR3 onboard memory
256GB PCIe-based onboard SSD
720p FaceTime HD Camera
Intel Iris Graphics 540

or

$1,499 for the new 2017 model?

13.3-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit display; 2560-by-1600 native resolution at 227 pixels per inch
2.3GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor
Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
256GB SSD storage1
Intel Iris Plus Graphics 640

Let's see how much faster the 2017 model is vs the 2016 model.

 

Wait a minute, doesn't that keyboard have the short travel like the new MBP/MB???

FUCK THAT

 

I have my echo dot connect to my receiver via bluetooth... I can connect to amazon music, pandora, spotify and even to my phone (so Apple music too if I had the service) and my sound system actually rocks my house. For $350 for a smart speaker is stupid... esp with Siri that is behind Google Home and Alexa. Fail... should have been $299 at best...

Hell I didn't even buy my echo dots until they were on sale...

 

I have way too much Sonos in my house to justify a HomePod. Whichever service is the first to support Sonos is the one I will choose. It looks like Alexa will be first.

Apple is going to have to do a lot to catch Sonos. The expandability, the Sonosnet network, wireless 5.1 setup, and the 50+ services supported by Sonos work great.

 

Mac Pro Dead?

 

no, Apple announced they're updating that in 2018. It will be more "pro" oriented.
it will be completely redesigned.

http://www.macrumors.com/2017/04/04/...-and-more/amp/

 

Geez I just noticed that the iMac Pro comes out in December, that things gonna be more outdated by the time it goes on sale

 

2016 13 Inch Pro 512GB TouchBar, Apple Care until Dec 2019 - $1400

 

The homepod is:

1) terribly named

2) not worth it if you already have sonos or house that isn't homekit enabled.

The iMac Pro looks like it will be fantastic for pros...that price deters me, sadly. Its really for people who need that processing power ALL the time.

The new iPad Pro and iOS updates are pretty great. They finally added functionality that brings it closer to really replacing a computer. If adobe can get their shit together and make the lightroom app more up to par...I would jump on a 10.5"

 

how much ram? What color?

 

agree on iPad. But I think I'll still get a 13" MBP..

 

8 Space Gray - its the default $1999 model

 

400 cores

 

I'm thinking about getting a 15" eventually. Just not sure when. I have a 13 now

 

Apple needs impress me with the MacBook pro before I consider another one.

 

Yeah, i kind of have Toyota syndrome with mine. I have no need to replace it and I'm uninspired to do so despite wanting a bigger screen..

 

tempting.

 

I would including shipping for you, but thats about as low as Ill go. Im 50/50 on whether its worth it to trade the 2016 for the 2017.

 

so you could go lower

I don't think the mid-2017 MBP is worth it over the Late 2016. It's mostly just a jump to Kaby Lake CPUs.

Theres also no mention if all 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports on the 13" run at full speed.


Coffee Lake cpus are coming out really soon and Cannon Lake cpus towards the end of 2017.

With Coffee Lake there's a CPU that could allow the possibility of a quad-core 13" MBP.

 

Yeah with how much Sonos has enhanced its product and how intuitive it is to beam music to different parts of the house or all of it, is just great. It's going to take a while for Apple to catch up to that caliber... the price is just restricting for just coming into the game.

 

alexa and google home still seems gimmicky to me. the home pod as well but its also supposed an pretty damn good speaker.

what ill give the home pod is encryption.

that said I'm invested in sonos as well.

 

Alexa is not a gimmick, it works and works well. But, the home pod is being marketed as a speaker, so that's the difference.

 

Not much lower, as you said, its not a huge difference

 

Alexa's not too smart, just as bad as Siri. And Siri is getting really bad. So many question, they both don't have answer to.

 

gimmick as in, how many people real need voice control in their homes right now? How many people have compatible home products to control?

really its a way to voice order stuff on amazon and tell it play music.

I use voice control in my car...and the times I do use it at home...my phone is right there.

So, its not a MUST HAVE item, therefore gimmick.

 

I use it for a bunch of things, never used it to order anything on Amazon. Home control, TV control, Music, News, Radio, its much better then Siri from what it hears and understand.

 

still a gimmick

 

 

 

You can argue that almost anything is a gimmick I guess.

 

i shouldn't buy it anyways.

Need to save money for once


GLWS!

 

All good, I'm going to keep it. With High Sierra with APFS its fast (er)

 

its another device that does something other devices most people own already do.

 

I have a MacBook, IPhone, Ipad, Apple TV and Apple Watch. They all do what the others can do.

 

 

To some degree, yes. But if this is you're argument than you are really missing my point.