Apple: Hardware News and Discussion Thread
The Third Ball
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Greatest thing ever...
Was on my apple TV renting a movie and when it prompted me for my ID...my phone vibrated and said enter text for apple TV...the fact it knew and prompted me made it SOOOO much easier.
Hurray for smart tech that works.
Was on my apple TV renting a movie and when it prompted me for my ID...my phone vibrated and said enter text for apple TV...the fact it knew and prompted me made it SOOOO much easier.
Hurray for smart tech that works.
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the chime is my sign to hit the option key though....
They're really doing everything they can to not make me want to upgrade
I've already got to use a dongle for Ethernet and half the time I have to restart to get it to work because I'm in Windows and they refuse to implement plug and pluy support in Windows. I can't do anymore dongles, a dongle just to plug in my USB flash drive? No thanks. I'll apparently be using my rMBP for a quite a few years to come until it's safe for me to use USB-C regularly without the need to always use an adapter
They're really doing everything they can to not make me want to upgrade
I've already got to use a dongle for Ethernet and half the time I have to restart to get it to work because I'm in Windows and they refuse to implement plug and pluy support in Windows. I can't do anymore dongles, a dongle just to plug in my USB flash drive? No thanks. I'll apparently be using my rMBP for a quite a few years to come until it's safe for me to use USB-C regularly without the need to always use an adapter
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The lack of port variety was one of the biggest shocks, but I didn't wait months for a new update/design to buy last year's model when I could have gotten it months ago. The price on a 13" configured with the same storage, RAM, and CPU speeds were about the same in price for the 2015 and 2016, but I'd rather have the better iGPU, storage, and IO speeds. I ordered the Apple USB C to USB A adapter, and I'll just need a USB C cable for my external SSD I specifically bought in anticipation of having less onboard storage than I'm used to, and a USB C to SD Card reader for pictures off my DSLR. Maybe Ethernet too but I hardly ever needed it on my 2011.
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Also just read on the new MBP the 3.5mm headphone jack no longer does optical output.
I'm sure that's not gonna go well with pros that use it every day.
everyday user like Whiskers, probably not.
I'm sure that's not gonna go well with pros that use it every day.
everyday user like Whiskers, probably not.
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This is one of those times where the critics really are right. These are not PRO machines. They shouldn't be called PRO. This time they really ditched too much for the sake of thinner and lighter. And I'm wondering why that is such a prestigious moniker to own. I mean, yes its awesome they are getting to this point. But don't sacrifice SD card slots, RAM, magsafe, Smart move to drop the prices on their adapters and LG monitors...but how long has it taken for thunderbolt to even catch on? I feel like its still not a total standard.
There are some very nice things about these new laptops. But the Pro market is more niche than your standard consumer...and now that Apple has a much larger market share of more than the Pros they used to have, they shifted focus.
Thats fine...just dont pretend youre still catering toward that market.
Even with MS releasing all this Surface stuff...I still dont find it a viable alternative. MS still sucks, imo. And there is no other real alternative.
There are some very nice things about these new laptops. But the Pro market is more niche than your standard consumer...and now that Apple has a much larger market share of more than the Pros they used to have, they shifted focus.
Thats fine...just dont pretend youre still catering toward that market.
Even with MS releasing all this Surface stuff...I still dont find it a viable alternative. MS still sucks, imo. And there is no other real alternative.
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The Pro argument is interesting. It seems that someone in the Pro category is someone editing media files for a living (Sarlacc fits this category) and would be the ones needing SD cards, ports, RAM, etc. The "pros" get protective of their title. In the past 6-7 years people buying MacBook Pro's are laymen (college students, old people, and everyone else). The thing is, the price gap between the other Macbook's are in the same range as the entry level pro so when people see it and see it looks better and is faster for an extra $300, they buy it. The Mac Pro is a good example of what the MacBook Pro used to be. Normal people aren't buying the Mac Pro.
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The Pro argument is interesting. It seems that someone in the Pro category is someone editing media files for a living (Sarlacc fits this category) and would be the ones needing SD cards, ports, RAM, etc. The "pros" get protective of their title. In the past 6-7 years people buying MacBook Pro's are laymen (college students, old people, and everyone else). The thing is, the price gap between the other Macbook's are in the same range as the entry level pro so when people see it and see it looks better and is faster for an extra $300, they buy it. The Mac Pro is a good example of what the MacBook Pro used to be. Normal people aren't buying the Mac Pro.
But for Phil Schiller to say an SD slot is "cumbersome" yet that requires someone to purchase, carry and use and separate ready and thinking that (or a million other adapters) ISNT cumbersome??? Where is the thought process in that?
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Does Apple make anything that plugs into USB-C or would I need an adapter to connect any other Apple device to these laptops? I can't think of an Apple device that comes with a Type-C cable besides the power adapter for these laptops
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Apple doesn't make anything that plugs into any ports now.
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you were saying?
While the new entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro with function keys has a removable SSD, the same cannot be said for the Touch Bar model.
MacRumors reader Jesse D. unscrewed the bottom lid on his new 15-inch MacBook Pro with a Touch Bar and discovered, unlike the 13-inch model sans Touch Bar, there is no cutout in the logic board for removable flash storage. Another reader said the 13-inch model with a Touch Bar also has a non-removable SSD.
Given the SSD appears to be permanently soldered to the logic board, users will be unable to upgrade the Touch Bar MacBook Pro's flash storage beyond Apple's 512GB to 2TB built-to-order options on its website at the time of purchase. In other words, the amount of flash storage you choose will be permanent for the life of the notebook.
The discovery also increases the importance of backing up data using Time Machine or a similar solution in case of logic board failure.
These are the first MacBook Pro models to ship with non-removable SSDs, following in the footsteps of the 12-inch MacBook.
The photos also show "pretty large, nearly index finger width gaps" around the battery cells, possibly to keep the MacBook Pro's overall weight lower and to encourage better airflow. The fan placement and internal layout of Touch Bar models is significantly different than the standard function key model.
Official teardowns from the likes of iFixit and OWC should confirm and provide a better look at the non-removable SSDs.
MacRumors reader Jesse D. unscrewed the bottom lid on his new 15-inch MacBook Pro with a Touch Bar and discovered, unlike the 13-inch model sans Touch Bar, there is no cutout in the logic board for removable flash storage. Another reader said the 13-inch model with a Touch Bar also has a non-removable SSD.
Given the SSD appears to be permanently soldered to the logic board, users will be unable to upgrade the Touch Bar MacBook Pro's flash storage beyond Apple's 512GB to 2TB built-to-order options on its website at the time of purchase. In other words, the amount of flash storage you choose will be permanent for the life of the notebook.
The discovery also increases the importance of backing up data using Time Machine or a similar solution in case of logic board failure.
These are the first MacBook Pro models to ship with non-removable SSDs, following in the footsteps of the 12-inch MacBook.
The photos also show "pretty large, nearly index finger width gaps" around the battery cells, possibly to keep the MacBook Pro's overall weight lower and to encourage better airflow. The fan placement and internal layout of Touch Bar models is significantly different than the standard function key model.
Official teardowns from the likes of iFixit and OWC should confirm and provide a better look at the non-removable SSDs.
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Now I'm even more in between if I should get ready to return mine and go for 512GB. But 240GB of Intel SSD for $65 was a lot easier to swallow than $200. Still waiting on mine to get on a plane from China.
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My mid-2012 has 256...and I'd love 512...but I've managed since I keep most important stuff on an external, and with OS Sierra moving a lot to the cloud...it freed up a ton more space.
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