All Oregon Chat #2 Chat about Rain, Cars, and Rained on Cars!
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#2887
looking good min! engine is nice and clean too for its age!!
#2889
well in comparison to my 93 nissan hardbody pickup (which is a bucket of crap) your engines cleanness is above par. ive been toying of just lowering it and redoing the paint and gutting the engine out for a turbo one but honestly i want a truck with 4wd and extra cab so i think my wants are out weighing my project ideas
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Well with my month off of Azine I....
Got a job.
Bought a Sand Rail.
Owned some sand.
Link to build thread.
http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/showthread.php?t=113711
Got a job.
Bought a Sand Rail.
Owned some sand.
Link to build thread.
http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/showthread.php?t=113711
#2895
Well with my month off of Azine I....
Got a job.
Bought a Sand Rail.
Owned some sand.
Link to build thread.
http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/showthread.php?t=113711
Got a job.
Bought a Sand Rail.
Owned some sand.
Link to build thread.
http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/showthread.php?t=113711
way cool!!! is that at sandlake?
where you working now? i bet the pressure is off not having to worry about your gov money and unemployment ones...
#2896
update... i clicked your link and saw it was sandlake... that place is fun but a killer to the bearrings
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Yea, ill have to dig up the email i have on why i got banned/me calling out Astro on why i have to follow rules, but none of them were followed in my banning.
It all boiled down to me clowning on the east coast.
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Here comes the wall-o-text
All posted in order.
Figured you'd get a kick out of that one chris.
To whom it may concern,
This evening I was banned for 1 month with a message of "You have been banned for a month for not following the 3G rules for posting"
Due to this thread:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-photograph-gallery-96/its-coming-along-what-do-you-think-so-far-770770/
In this thread I insulted no one, and I confronted no one(A rule of the 3g Forum). All that was done in that forum was me responding to the OP's request to let him know what I think about his car. Apparently when the OP doesn't get praise for his car, a mod (ggesq) stepped in and issued a warning that read, "I'm going to say it one time; knock it off. If you don't see this post it's on you." At this point I've been on Azine long enough to know that when he posts that he just goes nuts with banning anyone who keeps on. So my final response to that thread was, "So people stop being mad about opinions, ill let the OP hear what he wants. Awesome car. Cool mods. Keep it up." Was this post sarcastic? Yes. Did I break any of the rules listed on the 3rd gen Rules. No.
Even though I broke no rules I received a ban of 2weeks, at least so I thought. Upon logging back in to try and find contact info for a Mod of the 3G section (which none have anything listed) I was shocked to see that my ban had been doubled to a full month. Now according to the 3rd Gen Rules, one must be first Warned of a infraction, which I can see a blanket post from ggesq being a very mis directed warning. Secondly the rules state that if one is warned and continues he then receives a 3 day Ban, then going to 2 weeks, and finally ending with a month long ban/perma-ban.
So I'm trying to figure out how I got skipped in the Personal Warning (which is to be sent via PM according to the rules, not a post in a thread.), 3day, 2week, and sent right to a Month long ban.
From what I've seen in the forums as of late, some Mods are over looking the Rules they say to be enforcing and just flat out banning anyone who questions them.
If you could please clarify the rules and why they seem to have been bent in this situation I would appreciate it.
Thanks for your time,
Kyle Reitenbach
sT04Louis
This evening I was banned for 1 month with a message of "You have been banned for a month for not following the 3G rules for posting"
Due to this thread:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-photograph-gallery-96/its-coming-along-what-do-you-think-so-far-770770/
In this thread I insulted no one, and I confronted no one(A rule of the 3g Forum). All that was done in that forum was me responding to the OP's request to let him know what I think about his car. Apparently when the OP doesn't get praise for his car, a mod (ggesq) stepped in and issued a warning that read, "I'm going to say it one time; knock it off. If you don't see this post it's on you." At this point I've been on Azine long enough to know that when he posts that he just goes nuts with banning anyone who keeps on. So my final response to that thread was, "So people stop being mad about opinions, ill let the OP hear what he wants. Awesome car. Cool mods. Keep it up." Was this post sarcastic? Yes. Did I break any of the rules listed on the 3rd gen Rules. No.
Even though I broke no rules I received a ban of 2weeks, at least so I thought. Upon logging back in to try and find contact info for a Mod of the 3G section (which none have anything listed) I was shocked to see that my ban had been doubled to a full month. Now according to the 3rd Gen Rules, one must be first Warned of a infraction, which I can see a blanket post from ggesq being a very mis directed warning. Secondly the rules state that if one is warned and continues he then receives a 3 day Ban, then going to 2 weeks, and finally ending with a month long ban/perma-ban.
So I'm trying to figure out how I got skipped in the Personal Warning (which is to be sent via PM according to the rules, not a post in a thread.), 3day, 2week, and sent right to a Month long ban.
From what I've seen in the forums as of late, some Mods are over looking the Rules they say to be enforcing and just flat out banning anyone who questions them.
If you could please clarify the rules and why they seem to have been bent in this situation I would appreciate it.
Thanks for your time,
Kyle Reitenbach
sT04Louis
Hi Kyle,
I have taken the time to review the thread in question. What a disaster. I am afraid that I disagree with your interpretation of how things went down however. In fact, I am going to instruct our moderator team to automatically ban anyone who enters a thread with a post that's clearly meant to antagonize. Much like this:
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As someone who's been a member here since 2007, and if you say ggesq likes to get ban happy, you should be well aware that you were riding a fine line from the outset. In fact. without your post, the thread likely would have gone in a much different direction. It's attitudes like yours that we don't need on our site. You may think that you're being cute, 'acting within the rules of the forum' etc, but in the end, it's all subjective. If the mods, or admins feel that a member is being disruptive with their postings, and generally dragging down the discussions they participate in, we have the ability to, and will take action against them.
Had I seen the thread after your first post, you'd have been banned on the spot and your post removed.
Cheers,
robb
I have taken the time to review the thread in question. What a disaster. I am afraid that I disagree with your interpretation of how things went down however. In fact, I am going to instruct our moderator team to automatically ban anyone who enters a thread with a post that's clearly meant to antagonize. Much like this:
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As someone who's been a member here since 2007, and if you say ggesq likes to get ban happy, you should be well aware that you were riding a fine line from the outset. In fact. without your post, the thread likely would have gone in a much different direction. It's attitudes like yours that we don't need on our site. You may think that you're being cute, 'acting within the rules of the forum' etc, but in the end, it's all subjective. If the mods, or admins feel that a member is being disruptive with their postings, and generally dragging down the discussions they participate in, we have the ability to, and will take action against them.
Had I seen the thread after your first post, you'd have been banned on the spot and your post removed.
Cheers,
robb
Robb,
Ok, I understand that you may not like what I have to say to people,
but when someone asks for a opinion about their car I'm going to give
it to them, if they don't want it, they shouldn't start a thread
asking for it. Case in point with this thread. Yes I made a smartass
comment, but then I did give my opinion on the OP's car. Everything
after that was response to other people wanting to chime in.
Based on your email though this is a un winable battle with the AZine
staff. So now I just want to know what the point of the rules are, if
even you yourself said that they don't have to be followed by Mods.
Where was my 3day ban, 2week ban, or even a personal message
containing a warning. All of which are rules of the forum. When the
ban went into affect, it was 2 weeks, then magically jumped to a month
later on in the night.
Also, if you have the time you should go back and read what others
have said about the OP's history of doing this exact same thing to
other members, members that have been around for years and actually
contribute something.
-Kyle.
Ok, I understand that you may not like what I have to say to people,
but when someone asks for a opinion about their car I'm going to give
it to them, if they don't want it, they shouldn't start a thread
asking for it. Case in point with this thread. Yes I made a smartass
comment, but then I did give my opinion on the OP's car. Everything
after that was response to other people wanting to chime in.
Based on your email though this is a un winable battle with the AZine
staff. So now I just want to know what the point of the rules are, if
even you yourself said that they don't have to be followed by Mods.
Where was my 3day ban, 2week ban, or even a personal message
containing a warning. All of which are rules of the forum. When the
ban went into affect, it was 2 weeks, then magically jumped to a month
later on in the night.
Also, if you have the time you should go back and read what others
have said about the OP's history of doing this exact same thing to
other members, members that have been around for years and actually
contribute something.
-Kyle.
The ban jumped from 2 weeks to a month because of related comments you made in a different forum. They were felt to be further evidence of an extremely poor attitude, and as such your ban was extended. The original call was for 2months, but we decided a month was fair for a first offense.
cheers,
robb
cheers,
robb
Robb,
Again, my question wasn't answered.
Where was the PM, or 3 day ban. We are told to follow the rules as
posters to the forum, why are these same rules not followed when
"punishment" is dealt out?
-Kyle
Again, my question wasn't answered.
Where was the PM, or 3 day ban. We are told to follow the rules as
posters to the forum, why are these same rules not followed when
"punishment" is dealt out?
-Kyle
I refrain from posting rules in my forums for these exact reasons. Forums are fluid, rules are constantly changing, and evolving. the only fair way is to evaluate each situation on it's own to come up with the proper decision.
as we've done in this case.
cheers,
robb
as we've done in this case.
cheers,
robb
Robb
If that is the case, you should really re-think the way your mods run
your forum when they tell people to follow the rules.
From the way you put it, there should be no rules posted, yet there
are. Reason being because the Mods only enforce what they feel needed
to be dealt with. Not something that actually breaks a rule, and upon
enforcing said "rules" they do not follow their own guidelines for
punishment.
Just my two cents on how I feel a failed system is being run. If you
want your Mods banning those that (correct me if im wrong) bring
revenue to the owner, by all means let them continue to do so.
-Kyle
If that is the case, you should really re-think the way your mods run
your forum when they tell people to follow the rules.
From the way you put it, there should be no rules posted, yet there
are. Reason being because the Mods only enforce what they feel needed
to be dealt with. Not something that actually breaks a rule, and upon
enforcing said "rules" they do not follow their own guidelines for
punishment.
Just my two cents on how I feel a failed system is being run. If you
want your Mods banning those that (correct me if im wrong) bring
revenue to the owner, by all means let them continue to do so.
-Kyle
Figured you'd get a kick out of that one chris.
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None of our comments were inflammatory or beyond what I've seen on azine. I've seen some wild flame wars where no one was banned, I've seen mods launch flame wars and still keep their status. It seems to me it's all internet bullying by some narrow minded idiots that run a fairly successful forum.
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None of our comments were inflammatory or beyond what I've seen on azine. I've seen some wild flame wars where no one was banned, I've seen mods launch flame wars and still keep their status. It seems to me it's all internet bullying by some narrow minded idiots that run a fairly successful forum.
Forgot to answer that.
Working for Precision Countertops.
Basically travel to different Costcos every 2 weeks setting up in home appointments.
Pays decent, plus commission.
#2904
awesome.. if i need to get some new countertops i know who to contact now
#2906
anyone with an 04-05 TSX looking for an extra ECU and immobilizer to do the reflash?? im selling my 05 ecu and immobilizer ill cut a deal for a local person.. PM me
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None of our comments were inflammatory or beyond what I've seen on azine. I've seen some wild flame wars where no one was banned, I've seen mods launch flame wars and still keep their status. It seems to me it's all internet bullying by some narrow minded idiots that run a fairly successful forum.
So I'm back. Don't think I'll be sticking around much though, pretty dissatisfied with this site and it's hypocritical moderators. No one should have been banned as a result of that thread and why would OP not be banned for trolling? Anyways dead and gone.
Many thanks for the support from you all.
Catching up:
Min, ride looks awesome, just remove the fender liners
Vigor66: Mid muffler deletes won't cause you to fail emissions, however; don't remove cats and watch your DB level because they can fail you for being too loud. Although a simple mid muffler delete shouldn't be loud enough.
Finally landed on a new car, Acura RDX. So working with Tonkin right now they are being their typical selves and not giving me a fair discount. We'll see what happens. That will replace the TSX. Dunno if I am gonna part out or just trade it and be done. Depends on the deal.
For those of you who want to keep up and chit chat I am always on AIM ALL DAY: chrisLee109
Many thanks for the support from you all.
Catching up:
Min, ride looks awesome, just remove the fender liners
Vigor66: Mid muffler deletes won't cause you to fail emissions, however; don't remove cats and watch your DB level because they can fail you for being too loud. Although a simple mid muffler delete shouldn't be loud enough.
Finally landed on a new car, Acura RDX. So working with Tonkin right now they are being their typical selves and not giving me a fair discount. We'll see what happens. That will replace the TSX. Dunno if I am gonna part out or just trade it and be done. Depends on the deal.
For those of you who want to keep up and chit chat I am always on AIM ALL DAY: chrisLee109
And what's up with jumping on/piling on a member who posts constructive comments in a repectful manner?
Did ANY of you even bother to read ggesq's post in the thread that created the bans?
People don't get banned for posting AN opinion or disagreeing with a mod.
People get banned when, AFTER posting their opinion, they continue an argument or pile on or harass another member.
People get banned when, AFTER posting their opinion, they go to other sub-forums and incite others to pile on and harass other members.
People get banned when, AFTER posting their opinion, they continue polluting threads and taking them off-track.
People get banned when they continue to do these things even AFTER a moderator has posted a warning in the thread.
And, FWIW, arguing with a moderator in public is bad form. If you've got an issue with a moderator's action, take it to PM. You might be surprised what can be worked out with a little communication.
This thread is done.
People get banned when, AFTER posting their opinion, they continue an argument or pile on or harass another member.
People get banned when, AFTER posting their opinion, they go to other sub-forums and incite others to pile on and harass other members.
People get banned when, AFTER posting their opinion, they continue polluting threads and taking them off-track.
People get banned when they continue to do these things even AFTER a moderator has posted a warning in the thread.
And, FWIW, arguing with a moderator in public is bad form. If you've got an issue with a moderator's action, take it to PM. You might be surprised what can be worked out with a little communication.
This thread is done.
Now, you'll probably deny that's what you did, but your view of reality isn't necessarily the same as everyone else's.
#2908
I feel harrassed by moderators.. can we ban them?
#2910
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Didn't know I was required to. I have quit posting in the rest of your forum, however; I continue to chat with my fellow Oregon friends.
I don't think I was jumping or piling. I simply pointed out I thought it was trolling. Is there any real reason for seeking out Oregon members to continue an argument. That would result in ban for continuing an argument[/quote]
No, I didn't care to at that point.
My view of reality is as real as yours. Since we all have a warped view of reality isn't yours skewed as well by nature?
Now that you've wasted 5 minutes of my time that I may never get back I suggest as a mega moderator you not post rhetorical comments that do not benefit a post per your own sites rules. I say good day.
Now that you've wasted 5 minutes of my time that I may never get back I suggest as a mega moderator you not post rhetorical comments that do not benefit a post per your own sites rules. I say good day.
#2911
aww just TL only?? thats sided =)
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#2913
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In a PM to astro (admin)
Originally Posted by clee109
I'm sorry, a mega mod coming into a thread and "trolling" is immature. You should moderate your own mods.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...1#post11995934
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...1#post11995934
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Welcome back (to all)
#2917
some other mod had posted a big shpeel last night before i went to bed but now i noticed its gone.. wonder what happend..
i dont know if we should be so blessed with all this trolling or think we are getting singled out..
i dont know if we should be so blessed with all this trolling or think we are getting singled out..
#2918
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yup a post from trancemission (mega mod) calling kyle "asshat" and threatening
us not to be "asshat" plus two of my posts have been deleted overnight.
it was pretty dissapointing how trancemission acted... simply
seems like our oregon thread is on red alert. either other azine members reporting to mods or mods are highly monitoring our oregon chat..
us not to be "asshat" plus two of my posts have been deleted overnight.
it was pretty dissapointing how trancemission acted... simply
seems like our oregon thread is on red alert. either other azine members reporting to mods or mods are highly monitoring our oregon chat..
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#2920
finally can move on.............. i hope