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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NightHawk CL9
the game is awsome. i started out with a '02 Honda Accord Euro-R, i did a turbo stage 1,chip, exhaust (the sound actually changes on the cars after u install exhaust), weight reduction and am pushing about 300hp. and then i also bought an s2000, sounds EXACTLY like a real s2000 and you can "feel" the v-tec kicking in.

the game is more addicting then crack, cause you have 700 types of crack to tryout.

what exactly is the a-spec points? is it the more you have a race dependent on what car u race with. i got 8-19 points for sinday cup with the tsx but when i went to the FF races i was getting about 115 points per race.
yeah sometimes it's almost like, TOO much. sometimes I find myself sitting in front of the menu screen, having no idea what to do next. it's kind of funny.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
...I'm talking understeer @ <55mph on moderate turns with an high torque RWD setup (Cien) under throttle.

F23A4, who still slightly prefers PGR2.
your car is understeering because you're going too fast for your current setup.

please adjust, per Zapata's recommendations.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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I'm trying to get golds in all the license tests.. some of them are not too bad, but some of them are.

I have the most trouble with the slow ass cars. The fast cars, there is more room to make up time because, well, they're fast. But with the slow ass cars, gold and silver is sometimes the difference between crossing the finish line at 85 vs. 84 mph... kinda insane.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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For the record, my fear of the license tests are proven again...Getting Gold on each is absolutely driving me nuts. MUST...GET...ALL...GOLDS...
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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For the record, my fear of the license tests are proven again...Getting Gold on each is absolutely driving me nuts. MUST...GET...ALL...GOLDS...

Fuck that, I do well enough to get bronze and move on. Usually you can get liscense cars somewhere else......
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
I'm trying to get golds in all the license tests.. some of them are not too bad, but some of them are.

I have the most trouble with the slow ass cars. The fast cars, there is more room to make up time because, well, they're fast. But with the slow ass cars, gold and silver is sometimes the difference between crossing the finish line at 85 vs. 84 mph... kinda insane.
welcome to the next 6 months. i remember in gt2 or gt3 i was trying to do a license test and the bronze would be 47.000sec and you had a r32 skyline if i remember correctly but it took me 3 days to pass playing a few hours a day. once i got 47.002secs i was so so so so so pissed.

trying to get gold is gonna be hard for some of the licenses. good luck
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Minch00
Fuck that, I do well enough to get bronze and move on. Usually you can get liscense cars somewhere else......


Well, that's probably the difference between you finishing it this year and me finishing it in 2007...

I'm neurotic...MUST GET ALL GOLDS! DAMMIT!
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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just a reminder about the physics engine of GT4. As you know, when you hit the brakes, your car dives much more than it used to in GT3, especially for stock showroom vehicles. Some people (here and at other forums) seem to not like this - they think they should have kept the physics model the same as GT3, say they prefer some other arcadey racing game, etc. Well guess what - THIS IS HOW REAL CARS DRIVE. This game is just a little too realistic for some people.

yea I love how the cars get twitchy at high speed... so awesome. It makes you feel like you're really driving that fast.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
just a reminder about the physics engine of GT4. As you know, when you hit the brakes, your car dives much more than it used to in GT3, especially for stock showroom vehicles. Some people (here and at other forums) seem to not like this - they think they should have kept the physics model the same as GT3, say they prefer some other arcadey racing game, etc. Well guess what - THIS IS HOW REAL CARS DRIVE. This game is just a little too realistic for some people.

yea I love how the cars get twitchy at high speed... so awesome. It makes you feel like you're really driving that fast.
Well, said...My friend was whining about how breaking and stuff was quite different now...and of note, I got burnt a few times in my first hours with the game because I was not used to the physics either. But, that being said, the emulation of car handling by Polyphony is simply outstanding.

Although I will buy it, I have doubts Forza can come close to this...I have been wrong lots before tho...
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
just a reminder about the physics engine of GT4. As you know, when you hit the brakes, your car dives much more than it used to in GT3, especially for stock showroom vehicles. Some people (here and at other forums) seem to not like this - they think they should have kept the physics model the same as GT3, say they prefer some other arcadey racing game, etc. Well guess what - THIS IS HOW REAL CARS DRIVE. This game is just a little too realistic for some people.

yea I love how the cars get twitchy at high speed... so awesome. It makes you feel like you're really driving that fast.

Driving the m5 on N-Ring....wow.....amazing feeling of the suspension.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
Driving the m5 on N-Ring....wow.....amazing feeling of the suspension.
on the M and the N (I posted previously on this)


Shooting down those narrow turns, I would have been fine on GT3, but with the new engine, I got into an accident that would have without a doubt killed me in real life, and utterly destoryed the car. I never had that happen in GT3
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Minch00
on the M and the N (I posted previously on this)


Shooting down those narrow turns, I would have been fine on GT3, but with the new engine, I got into an accident that would have without a doubt killed me in real life, and utterly destoryed the car. I never had that happen in GT3


yep, this game is very humbling. You must absolutely brake in the brake zone and hit the apex etc., otherwise will loose. There is no room for error. It's kicking my ass so far!!!
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Minch00
on the M and the N (I posted previously on this)


Shooting down those narrow turns, I would have been fine on GT3, but with the new engine, I got into an accident that would have without a doubt killed me in real life, and utterly destoryed the car. I never had that happen in GT3
i was racing a friend in a new sti spec c at the N and at one point i tried to take a corner and just lost it, never had that happen in gt3 either. i would get loose but not wipe out.

btw there are a few things i don't like about the game. has anyone noticed no N(eutral) when playing manual. when with 2 player replay can the screen be combined into one screen focusing on the leader. it saves too much and cannot reload the game if bought a wrong car. and the biggest thing is that you cannot spin out when cornering with a high hp car like u used to in gt3. (aka floor it in the middle of a turn)
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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The Nurburgring is insane! Hopefully I can visit it in person one day( 15euros per lap).
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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I'm gonna try to block out some time this weekend to try the endurance runs...



This game so pwns me right now...

Junkster, who might not leave his apartment for Friday and Saturday
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Another thing I've noticed when playing this game...

I can't play this game if I'm tired... One lapse of concentration, and my teg and I are flying off to the side...

And I'm sure it's the same way with real racing... one split second of "hmm, I wonder if I should order pizza tonight" last night got me from first to last in a race last night. And if it was real life, I would have been six feet under.

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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NightHawk CL9
i was racing a friend in a new sti spec c at the N and at one point i tried to take a corner and just lost it, never had that happen in gt3 either. i would get loose but not wipe out.

btw there are a few things i don't like about the game. has anyone noticed no N(eutral) when playing manual. when with 2 player replay can the screen be combined into one screen focusing on the leader. it saves too much and cannot reload the game if bought a wrong car. and the biggest thing is that you cannot spin out when cornering with a high hp car like u used to in gt3. (aka floor it in the middle of a turn)
yes, there is no neutral. there was no neutral for any of the GT series. you might not like not having neutral when you're starting from a stop, but can you imagine how annoying it would be to accidentally downshift into neutral while in the middle of a race? that would be a bigger problem...

I haven't checked any of the 2 player replay options yet, I will let you know if I find anything out.

If you turn off TCS and ASM (mainly TCS) - you will be able to spin out a high-hp car in the middle of a turn. Although, I'm not sure why, not being able to spin out in a turn would be a problem...
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
F23A4, who still slightly prefers PGR2.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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do you guys usually play it in automatic or manual?

as for me i still have to get ps2 just for this game........xbox
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Junkster
Another thing I've noticed when playing this game...

I can't play this game if I'm tired... One lapse of concentration, and my teg and I are flying off to the side...

And I'm sure it's the same way with real racing... one split second of "hmm, I wonder if I should order pizza tonight" last night got me from first to last in a race last night. And if it was real life, I would have been six feet under.

Junkster, who absolutely loves the physics on this game
same here, mom comes in and tells me there food done and i answer ok and fly off course from first to fourth, it wa such a tight cmpetition that in a lap i was only about to get one place back.

i don't think i would've been 6 feet under, but definantly not racing for a few months.....
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by NightHawk CL9
same here, mom comes in and tells me there food done and i answer ok and fly off course from first to fourth, it wa such a tight cmpetition that in a lap i was only about to get one place back.

i don't think i would've been 6 feet under, but definantly not racing for a few months.....
hehe... last night, I had a text message coming in, but didn't check it till after the race

Junkster, who thinks about the races while at work
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
yes, there is no neutral. there was no neutral for any of the GT series. you might not like not having neutral when you're starting from a stop, but can you imagine how annoying it would be to accidentally downshift into neutral while in the middle of a race? that would be a bigger problem...

I haven't checked any of the 2 player replay options yet, I will let you know if I find anything out.

If you turn off TCS and ASM (mainly TCS) - you will be able to spin out a high-hp car in the middle of a turn. Although, I'm not sure why, not being able to spin out in a turn would be a problem...
there was neytral for gt3 when playing manual. and i was referring to spinning out not as a problem but as a realistic feature....

i know someone what test drove an s2000 and floored it in the middle of a turn and spun it and hit a car or two. i have an s2000 in the game and was just remembering that.

oh and when i play its manual all the way

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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BstonBruin
do you guys usually play it in automatic or manual?

as for me i still have to get ps2 just for this game........xbox
I'm playing auto now but when my skill increases I will switch to manual, just like I did in GT3.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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I just picked up the MADCATZ universal component cable (6055) last night. It hooks up to both a ps2 and an xbox, $10 at best buy. Don't know if its any good but shit, for $10 I'll try it.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BstonBruin
do you guys usually play it in automatic or manual?

as for me i still have to get ps2 just for this game........xbox
I always play manual. Used to play automatic back in the day, like when I was all old skool. But, manual pwns auto. And once you play with manual for a long ass time, if you go back and try auto, its annoying as fark.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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i think untill you have mastered a game manual is wicked hard
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BstonBruin
i think untill you have mastered a game manual is wicked hard
true, when you first try it, it's tough as hell. but after you do it for a while, it becomes second nature, just like driving a manual car in real life. and, you will never go back.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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I started out with automatic, but at 3% into it I changed to manual, the game doesn't downshift enough for me, I need my powerband dammit!

I've also turned off the TCS in most cars......
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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...the game doesn't downshift enough for me, I need my powerband dammit!...
we have a winner... this is precisely why you need to use manual.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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Nurburgring was awesome!!

too bad Clutchperformer can't hit walls anymore without the screen going blurry


Looks like I"m going to have to put the game on hold for 2 months... I'm being shipped to Peurto Rico for 2 months
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Nurburgring was awesome!!

too bad Clutchperformer can't hit walls anymore without the screen going blurry


Looks like I"m going to have to put the game on hold for 2 months... I'm being shipped to Peurto Rico for 2 months
ClutchPerformer doesn't have the game yet....

Bring the PS with you?
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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For gt1 and 2 i used auto for the most part, but for gt3 it was manual all the way. Another thing is in GT4 cars like the mercedes that come with autos in real life, shift differently than a car with a manual. Its called auto logic, which tends to make an auto act and shift differently than a manual. The autos in GT4 tend to do more gear hunting, especially when you modify the tranny and start messing with the gearing. This game is the best i fucking love it. That is all, must play.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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ClutchPerformer doesn't have the game yet....

Bring the PS with you?
Won't be worth it... Client needs us to work 12/6.


and get your arse to the store and pick it up!!

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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bigman
For gt1 and 2 i used auto for the most part, but for gt3 it was manual all the way. Another thing is in GT4 cars like the mercedes that come with autos in real life, shift differently than a car with a manual. Its called auto logic, which tends to make an auto act and shift differently than a manual. The autos in GT4 tend to do more gear hunting, especially when you modify the tranny and start messing with the gearing. This game is the best i fucking love it. That is all, must play.
Good point, it becomes tricky with cars that don't come with manual in real life. I tend to avoid those cars for the most part, lol.

Although, I guess I don't think about it anymore. For one of the International-B license tests it was a Mercedes SL500 @ a few curves of the 'Ring, and I was playing manual. I didn't even think twice about the real car not having manual.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX 'R' US
Won't be worth it... Client needs us to work 12/6.


and get your arse to the store and pick it up!!
damn dude
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX 'R' US
Won't be worth it... Client needs us to work 12/6.


and get your arse to the store and pick it up!!

Ouch!

I think I'm gonna wait until the price drops a little... Plus I'm having way too much fun with FFXI right now. If I got GT4 now, there's no way I'd ever finish my thesis!
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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Ouch!

I think I'm gonna wait until the price drops a little... Plus I'm having way too much fun with FFXI right now. If I got GT4 now, there's no way I'd ever finish my thesis!
YOU DIDN'T BUY THE GAME?!??!?

OMG...I think you should be stripped of your powers just for that! GO BUY IT!






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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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maybe someone should take a screenshot of what happens when one hits a wall in GT4...
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX 'R' US
Won't be worth it... Client needs us to work 12/6.


and get your arse to the store and pick it up!!

Ouch. But OTOH, you get nice weather, beaches with hawt women to stare at...not TOO bad of trade-off...
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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Ouch. But OTOH, you get nice weather, beaches with hawt women to stare at...not TOO bad of trade-off...



The hawt hawt women.........I'll take your place


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