Fibonacci

So the question remains - how does tightening the throttle cable in an '08 make a difference?

zeroday

pretty sure it just means that instead of your foot/accelerator pulling the cable going to the throttle body there's a motor/servo doing it.

srika

actually the "jealous haters" was kind of a parody on a certain other thread... lol

zeroday

oic

iTimmy

There is a cable that goes from the gas pedal to the "DBW box" under the hood there is an adjustment and probably way to much slack, it should not be taut, but it shouldn't have as much deflection as it has. By removing this unwarranted slack it improves the responsiveness of the throttle and makes it much easier to drive smoother, the DBW box only does what it is told from a throttle cable, if that cable is properly adjusted it performs more optimally. Again, do NOT over tighten the cable, it should have 3/8" deflection, if over tightened you risk snapping it at WOT, my car came with about 7/8" deflection and my brothers car was the same.

Ken1997TL

Tightening the throttle cable is the first thing I do with a car.

oonowindoo

Remove the CDV all together. It feels like my clutch is slipping every time i shift fast...

Ken1997TL

Well I would if I had a clutch. Both of my cars are slushboxes.

iTimmy

Clutches are cheaper then rear ends, the only reason the CDV will interfere is if your doing extremely hard launches, it was put in place to protect the some what fragile rear end. If your looking for hard launch you better beef up the rear dif. or buy a different car, rear difs are around $2k and not something I would abuse.

Fibonacci

Time to man up. :

oonowindoo

it affects more than just launches. at WOT and u shift, the RPM will not come down for about 1-2 secs...

iTimmy

Anything less then a perfect shift when at WOT throttle would appear to be the same thing as a hard launch to the CDV and is preventing heavy jarring to the drivetrain at the expense of a little clutch life and ultimate performance.

Even with the CDV in place it's more common then not for clutch life to be well over 100k miles. Of course you hear of people burning up clutches in 10k miles, but those people exist on every forum and with a car like the S2000 it is tempting to dump the clutch at 5k RPM's, with the CDV in place your greatly shortening the life of your clutch by doing so and aren't launching well, with it not in place your going to launch like a bat out of hell, but are at great risk of having a blown rear dif. I guess I'm more comfortable with a little protection for the rear dif, and a little less performance.

Costco

What the gay? I thought only GM would rig their cars with weak differentials and purposely de-engineer them to protect their cheap parts

So let me get this straight.... the CDV (clutch delay valve) I'm guessing somehow slows or reduces the shock of sudden clutch engagement/disengagement whether its hard launches, WOT shifting, etc. Can someone explain it? How easy is it to remove this CDV? And which years have the CDV? Never heard of it before, too lazy to search s2ki.... please don't tell me all S2ks have the CDV

GM did a similar and very, very annoying thing on my car from the factory to protect their weak ass 10-bolt differential. They should beef up the differentials instead of doing lame ass crap like that.... or give us a $2000 voucher for a new diff.

I'm sorry but the S2000 is a car to be flogged and that loves to be flogged. Putting a leash on it like that is lame! I never noticed it, though I've never took an S2000 to redline while in the driver's seat

SSMTL01

itimmy: I have already done the top-down-while moving mod, forgot to mention that! That was even quicker than tightening the throttle cable

Regarding the CDV, I am torn as to whether I should take it out or not. It barely interferes except for very hard shifts and launches as mentioned but it is barely noticeable. The car will still chirp 2nd everytime and sometimes 3rd as well. My concern is voiding my CPO warranty by removing the CDV. What do you guys think?

shrykhar

I had an extended test drive in a beat up 02 S2k, and the shifter and clutch were perfect. I still lurch my own car, but in the S2k it was heel-toe downshift to 2nd, hang the back-end out on tight turns, floor it on the way out, exhaust blaring. People stared. It was bags of fun.

I often wonder what it would be like to live with every day ... it's a bit like wondering what life would be like every day with that hot one-night-stand chick.

SSMTL01

Yes and speeding tickets are the equivalent of STDs in this situation

oonowindoo

AP2 (04+) have CDV... actually there are many other cars that have CDV as well... including E46 M3. It takes about 40 mins to Remove the CDV.. very easy. There is a DIY page on S2ki.

For everyday driving, your Rear diff should be just fine. but a lot of people take their s2k to the track, so it is recommended to put some reinforcement on the rear diff.

SSMTL01

Is it very easy to reinstall in case I need to bring the car in for warranty coverage?

neuronbob

I'll tell you what it's like. . That's pretty much it. Especially when I'm getting on the freeway via a nice, empty straight onramp.

In fact, I think I'll go back now out for a hot second before it gets dark.

I expect speeding tickets soon. This fscker is a bike with four wheels.

SSMTL01

Onramps are the shit! I like to see how fast I can get up to before having to hit the brakes and merge on at a few miles over the speed limit

oonowindoo

they will never notice it.

cM3go

You mofos lookin for an S2K missed a great buy, and now its gone.

https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/s2000-needed-new-tires-so-389228/

SSMTL01

Has this been proven?

Jay.Diem

^ +1 ... i'm curious as well

SSMTL01

Guess our thread has died since Jesal traded in his s2000

zeroday

Fixt
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/official-mazda-3-discussion-thread-389511/

Crazy Bimmer

People at the dealer didnt understand why i did it either.

subtledreamer

Looks like you've picked up the S... I recall your mentioning it in my TL farewell-pics thread a little while back.

mattg

SSMTL01

It's like aishwarya rai and amy whinehouse parked next to eachother

iTimmy

Your going to give your curry scented brethren a bad rap

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

So at 6'3" squeezing into a S2000 has always been a challenge. Mainly the pedals are to close and I have to bend my knee way too much to go from gas to brake pedal. Always made me nervous that it would take me an extra second to slam on the brakes if needed. Not to mention I need to swing the door all the way open in order to climb out of the damn things like it's a race car.

So... any S2000 shoppers/owners take a look at the 350Z as well? Seems like a better fit (literally) for us taller guys. I've never driven or even been a passenger in one before though. There are more used ones for sale and at a comparably cheaper price.

Thoughts?

vishnus11

350Z is a great mainstream car, but thats just its problem - mainstream. I.e. it doesn't have the slot car feel or race-car like excitement of the S2000. The shifter is rather high-effort and not particularly likeable. Rather ordinary and dare I say boring to drive.

On a postive note it is more roomy, a fairly good handler despite its heft, and should make for a competent tourer.

Two different cars in my opinion.

zeroday

to me the 350z didn't feel connected at high speeds. it just didn't inspire much confidence. it also had a distinct ups truck feel that always bothered me. maybe it was because mine was a FMY who knows.

neuronbob

I didn't. This was only because I was looking for something that might be a good "midlife" crisis car, and the S fit the bill nicely.

I agree with the others....the 350z is too mainstream. I see lots of them around here. The S, though....other than a meet I went to last week, I've seen only one other on the road. It's a great complement to my equally rare RL.

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Wow. The S2000 is very popular around here. I see them every day. Typically more than one a day.

Didn't realize there was a sense of rareness in other parts of the country.

Crazy Bimmer

They popular around here as well. I driven the 350z and its ok, it does everything good but nothing great. Its a good balance of sports car and daily driver. IMO

S2k is just more of a bare bones, handling fun car.

iTimmy

Other then my brothers, I have only seen two other S2k's on the road up here since I got mine in mid-December. There is a beat to crap yellow AP1 working at a construction site down the road from me and I saw a red one a few weeks ago, up here they are fairly uncommon.

vishnus11

The 350Z appeals to a wide audience and thus has to be relatively easier to drive, comfortable, and have wide appeal. The S2000 on the other hand appeals to crazy people whose idea of fun is 9000rpm shifts, slot-car handling, and a bright red start button!

neuronbob

(raises hand) Uhm.....that would be me.

As far as rarity....Now that I'm actually looking for them, I really don't see them around here. I saw FOUR C5 and one C6 Corvettes yesterday, on the other hand! Probably a dozen or more Mustangs .


On another subject...

My GOD, people stare at this car when they see it. The last car I owned that got this much attention was my 3G TL, and that was because I bought the first one ever sold in Northeast Ohio....and it's nothing like what I get with the S. I commuted to work in the S today and....wow, the response. I've received no comments so far, but I expect them as the weather warms up.

Top always down!