General Car Talk Discussion Thread
10-04-2012, 01:43 PM
#2241
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Congrats!! I expect a progress thread.
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10-04-2012, 02:05 PM
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10-04-2012, 03:02 PM
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In the Mid-South meow
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Can't wait to see the ST! Congrats!
I was soooo close to buying a Focus SVT in '03 when I was looking at hot hatches. I ended up with an '04 Civic Si but needless to say I've always been a fan of the performance variant of the Focus. I'm sure it's going to be a fun car.
I was soooo close to buying a Focus SVT in '03 when I was looking at hot hatches. I ended up with an '04 Civic Si but needless to say I've always been a fan of the performance variant of the Focus. I'm sure it's going to be a fun car.
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10-04-2012, 10:43 PM
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Passenger as well?! That's awesome
thanks for clearing that up. I've looked at MS3s and MS6s many times in the past... haven't completely singled them out yet either, just out of my price range at the moment.
The stock tune for the DISI motors are very conservative, but that's not the reason for being prone for ZZB. The stock tunes run rich to prevent knock but in turn create more fuel being dumped back into the valves. As well they're tuned with prevention in mind, so if some f*cktard puts 87 octane in it'll still run and not blow up. It'll run like crap but it will run. Also the stock spark plugs are basically at their heat range limit with the stock tune, so the very first thing you're supposed to do before tuning with an AP is get step colder plugs. The high flow fuel pump is also close to it's limit for holding fuel pressure with the stock tune/parts, so if you mod beyond the basic bolt-ons, such as installing a downpipe, mainfold, etc. you need to upgrade the fuel pump internals to be able to handle the increased fuel flow. I've decided to not go with a downpipe so I'm still using my stock internals but my logs show steady fuel pressure during WOT runs.
The real reason for ZZB though is the car being a relative performance bargain being put into the hands of kids just getting their license and thinking it's a race car. More often than not it's because of simple abuse, dropping the hammer on it constantly or boosting at too low RPMs causing all that excessive boost in the cylinders. There has been it happening (supposedly) to someone while just crusing at a steady speed out of boost, but I'm suspicious about that. But I personally run an off the shelf COBB tune simply because it's much better than the stock tune but still safe enough that I'm not pushing the limit since this is my daily driver. Some MS6/MS3 guys are tuning on E85 and making HUGE power. It's not uncommon to see 500+ hp out of the DISIs now, of course with big turbos, not stock units, but still that's insane for a sub-$30,000 car IMO.
The real reason for ZZB though is the car being a relative performance bargain being put into the hands of kids just getting their license and thinking it's a race car. More often than not it's because of simple abuse, dropping the hammer on it constantly or boosting at too low RPMs causing all that excessive boost in the cylinders. There has been it happening (supposedly) to someone while just crusing at a steady speed out of boost, but I'm suspicious about that. But I personally run an off the shelf COBB tune simply because it's much better than the stock tune but still safe enough that I'm not pushing the limit since this is my daily driver. Some MS6/MS3 guys are tuning on E85 and making HUGE power. It's not uncommon to see 500+ hp out of the DISIs now, of course with big turbos, not stock units, but still that's insane for a sub-$30,000 car IMO.
thanks for clearing that up. I've looked at MS3s and MS6s many times in the past... haven't completely singled them out yet either, just out of my price range at the moment.
10-04-2012, 10:44 PM
#2246
If there aren't pics within a week of you actually taking delivery of your ST, I'll personally assemble a lynch mob and come knockin' on your door!
10-04-2012, 10:59 PM
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Well if the ST's in his driveway... 
10-04-2012, 11:02 PM
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What do you think the lynch mob is for?
They'll be there to hang up photos of his ST for him once we all take pics, since it'll be a week (a week too long) since he got it. Duh
They'll be there to hang up photos of his ST for him once we all take pics, since it'll be a week (a week too long) since he got it. Duh
10-05-2012, 09:33 AM
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More time to assemble.
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10-05-2012, 11:53 AM
#2252
In the Mid-South meow
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10-05-2012, 12:07 PM
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Whats up with RDX owners?
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tl,dr - Skip to page 5 
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10-05-2012, 12:39 PM
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Looking for a new vehicle since our Trailblazer just totaled. I may get another Trailblazer. We liked it and it definitely saved my wife and two young daughters life's. Maybe early 2000's Tahoe. Not really sure. Going to do a lot more thinking over the weekend. Any input would be appreciated.
10-05-2012, 12:56 PM
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Looking for a new vehicle since our Trailblazer just totaled. I may get another Trailblazer. We liked it and it definitely saved my wife and two young daughters life's. Maybe early 2000's Tahoe. Not really sure. Going to do a lot more thinking over the weekend. Any input would be appreciated.
10-05-2012, 01:00 PM
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Whats up with RDX owners?
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Woah! You guys OK? Did you post a thread about it?
10-05-2012, 01:29 PM
#2258
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Thank the lord they are okay. I posted about about it a few days back in SWEDT. It was bad. Hydroplaned and flipped. My wife has major soreness and some minor bruises and cuts. My 2 daughters remarkable only had a little rashing on their necks from the child seats. I will post a thread here when I decide on a new vehicle and include some wreaked pictures and a little more background. There are some pictures in the SWEDT if you want to check them out. It truly is a miracle. Scariest day of my wife's life and mine.
10-05-2012, 01:39 PM
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Whats up with RDX owners?
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Im glad theyre mostly OK. That just reminds me how horrible VA roads are when it comes to drainage 
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10-05-2012, 01:42 PM
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Thank the lord they are okay. I posted about about it a few days back in SWEDT. It was bad. Hydroplaned and flipped. My wife has major soreness and some minor bruises and cuts. My 2 daughters remarkable only had a little rashing on their necks from the child seats. I will post a thread here when I decide on a new vehicle and include some wreaked pictures and a little more background. There are some pictures in the SWEDT if you want to check them out. It truly is a miracle. Scariest day of my wife's life and mine.
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10-05-2012, 02:28 PM
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Looking for a new vehicle since our Trailblazer just totaled. I may get another Trailblazer. We liked it and it definitely saved my wife and two young daughters life's. Maybe early 2000's Tahoe. Not really sure. Going to do a lot more thinking over the weekend. Any input would be appreciated.
i really like them
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10-05-2012, 02:33 PM
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so what do you guys think about a TDI? long term benefits, upkeep, ect?
my MS3 is barely averaging 25mpg 75%highway/25% city, and i drive roughly 400 miles a week.
i can barely get 300 miles to a tank with the car and premium isnt getting any cheaper.
I would look into a Jetta more than likely since an A3 TDI (used) is way out of my range.
any benefits to a TDI, or should i stick to a regular 4 banger? i was considering buying an 8th Gen AV6 coupe since they seem to get pretty close to 30mpg while using regular 87.
feedback is welcome.
my MS3 is barely averaging 25mpg 75%highway/25% city, and i drive roughly 400 miles a week.
i can barely get 300 miles to a tank with the car and premium isnt getting any cheaper.
I would look into a Jetta more than likely since an A3 TDI (used) is way out of my range.
any benefits to a TDI, or should i stick to a regular 4 banger? i was considering buying an 8th Gen AV6 coupe since they seem to get pretty close to 30mpg while using regular 87.
feedback is welcome.
10-05-2012, 02:46 PM
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Whats up with RDX owners?
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How much do you owe on the MS3? How much is diesel in CA compared to 91 octane? How much will you get for the MS3 and how much will a Jetta TDI run you?
10-05-2012, 03:04 PM
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^ Dunno if it's similar in the states, but here diesel prices go up and down all over the place. Sometimes well below 87, sometimes more than 91.
From what I've seen, TDIs hold their value like crazy. Great when selling, frustrating when buying.
I sort of wish I got a TDI instead of a 2.0, but they were so much more expensive...
Maker, what's your budget?
From what I've seen, TDIs hold their value like crazy. Great when selling, frustrating when buying.
I sort of wish I got a TDI instead of a 2.0, but they were so much more expensive...
Maker, what's your budget?
10-05-2012, 03:17 PM
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i havent looked at TDI's yet. just throwing out the idea. but id like to dump the mazda. insurance is 155/month
as far as fuel costs, its kinda all over. less than 87 and more than 91.
^ Dunno if it's similar in the states, but here diesel prices go up and down all over the place. Sometimes well below 87, sometimes more than 91.
From what I've seen, TDIs hold their value like crazy. Great when selling, frustrating when buying.
I sort of wish I got a TDI instead of a 2.0, but they were so much more expensive...
From what I've seen, TDIs hold their value like crazy. Great when selling, frustrating when buying.
I sort of wish I got a TDI instead of a 2.0, but they were so much more expensive...
im just skeptical about going german.
10-05-2012, 03:23 PM
#2266
2024 Honda Civic Type R
Thank the lord they are okay. I posted about about it a few days back in SWEDT. It was bad. Hydroplaned and flipped. My wife has major soreness and some minor bruises and cuts. My 2 daughters remarkable only had a little rashing on their necks from the child seats. I will post a thread here when I decide on a new vehicle and include some wreaked pictures and a little more background. There are some pictures in the SWEDT if you want to check them out. It truly is a miracle. Scariest day of my wife's life and mine.
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10-05-2012, 05:02 PM
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i'd consider the golf tdi over the jetta tdi. Its a ltl more expensive, but the quality of the car is a lot better.
As for reliability, I dont see why the engine would have problems. But if you go golf there is quite an expensive 40k transmission service. My friend got one a couple months ago, seems like a well built car. I'd get a golf tdi if i was in your situation. And seeing how you're coming from a ms3 you'll still appreciate the hatch
As for reliability, I dont see why the engine would have problems. But if you go golf there is quite an expensive 40k transmission service. My friend got one a couple months ago, seems like a well built car. I'd get a golf tdi if i was in your situation. And seeing how you're coming from a ms3 you'll still appreciate the hatch
10-05-2012, 05:22 PM
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shit, i forgot all about the Golf
i like, but i think i would go DSG
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1
i like, but i think i would go DSG
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1
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10-05-2012, 08:08 PM
#2269
Was a pretty good day today. 
Quattro. S & 991 Carrera 4S.
Quattro. S & 991 Carrera 4S.
10-05-2012, 08:10 PM
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^^^Vents are above the Nav screen; those must be crap cars.
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10-05-2012, 08:42 PM
#2271
They are. 1's a complicated Italian with no explanation of what each button does & one is an oversized Beetle.
10-05-2012, 09:15 PM
#2272
Suzuka Master
mmmm did you get to drive them?
10-05-2012, 09:31 PM
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10-05-2012, 11:19 PM
#2274
Suzuka Master
bitch
haha jk, damn jealous
haha jk, damn jealous
10-06-2012, 02:28 PM
#2276
Whats up with RDX owners?
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There is another member that has a Viper and I honestly cant remember his name. He also had a 355 IIRC.
10-06-2012, 02:47 PM
#2277
You're thinking of G & he had a Viper. I think it's been replaced by a Bentley Continental SS.
10-06-2012, 02:54 PM
#2278
Whats up with RDX owners?
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10-06-2012, 03:13 PM
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Damn, I can't believe he sold it.
10-06-2012, 04:18 PM
#2280
If I remember right, he said the car was full of issues & always broken.