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Old 09-20-2012, 11:35 AM
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A '69 Camaro SS will be beaten by a V6 Camry or Accord. That doesn't make it a bad car. I think you're missing the point of the NSX, or any other older performance car.
Yeah, but those cars are decades apart. NSX only stopped production in 2005, and even then it wasn't particularly competitive.

I do love the NSX. I just don't think the later models are worth $50k+ compared to what else you can get for that money.

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Old 09-20-2012, 11:44 AM
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I respect your opinion, but I have to correct one thing.

Yes, it was still sold up until 2005. But the technology is from the mid-80s. The biggest change they made to the car is bump the displacement up (on the manual tranny models) and added an extra cog in the manual gear box.

With that said, for $50k you could get a Porsche Boxster Still won't beat the Camaro Zed Lardass One, but thats not the point of the car. Much like the NSX.
Old 09-20-2012, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
yeah, you buy an NSX today because you want to own an NSX - not because you want to win dragraces.
should be the case with any car you buy...



same goes with buying supercars (if we ever are in that position) i doubt we will buy one car over the other cause its .3 seconds faster to 60 and can hold the skidpad better.

You buy it cause your ass is in love with the seat, your fingers are in love with the wheel and shifter, and your feet are in love with pedals, and your heart beats with the rhythm of the engine
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Aman
Yeah, but those cars are decades apart. NSX only stopped production in 2005, and even then it wasn't particularly competitive.

I do love the NSX. I just don't think the later models are worth $50k+ compared to what else you can get for that money.

JMO.
I never see one around here in MD. For $50k, it is like getting a supercar to me.

That said, the comment about it being a 20-yr old car with 25-yr old tech is true.

But I would rock a 246 Dino if I had the cash.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:03 PM
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the NSX is a driver's car. if you want "technology" go buy a GT-R and let it handle all the technical details of driving for you. have fun.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:08 PM
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If anything, the older tech supports my argument that the later ones aren't really worth $50k.

But whatever. I've never driven either but would be perfectly happy to own one.
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Value of an older car is subjective i think, if you like the car you would say its worth every penny, if don't like the car you would say its an over priced pos.


For 50k you can get z06 and slap up alot of cars out there, or make a civic run 9s for half that, but if you don't like the car it doesn't make a bit of difference
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:30 PM
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SD put it best:

Originally Posted by speedemon90
You buy it cause your ass is in love with the seat, your fingers are in love with the wheel and shifter, and your feet are in love with pedals, and your heart beats with the rhythm of the engine
Old 09-20-2012, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Aman
I love the NSX, but if there are brand-new cars that can out-perform it for the same money, something's wrong.
I think this is really all you need to know on whether a NSX is still worth $50,000 or not.

Originally Posted by Gordon Murray
Of course as you know, the engine has only six cylinders; however, the NSX's very rigid chassis is excellent and would easily be capable of handling more power. Although it's true I had thought it would have been better to put a larger engine, the moment I drove the "little" NSX, all the benchmark cars--Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini--I had been using as references in the development of my car vanished from my mind. Of course the car we would create, the McLaren F1, needed to be faster than the NSX, but the NSX's ride quality and handling would become our new design target.

It achieved a very natural, linear feeling throttle, and I can now hide my embarrassment and confess that I copied the idea during the development of the McLaren F1 (laughs).
The NSX inspired part of the F1. Without mentioning Senna's involvement or the cars the NSX-R '02 is still capable of running next to, that is what you pay $50,000 for; an icon.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:09 PM
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:11 PM
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OMG, sign me up. I don't need a house. I'll sleep in a van down by the river.
Old 09-21-2012, 01:13 PM
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I wonder how long that lease is, how many miles you get with it, and what the residual value is.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
I wonder how long that lease is, how many miles you get with it, and what the residual valu e is.
I called lol. They can do 15-60 months, this particular quote of $2699 was for a 15 month with $35k down (not sure why it says $19,999 on the pic), 7500 miles a year (variable), residual value $200k. The sticker price is $258k.
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Recently had to rent a Dodge Grand Caravan to haul my team out of town for a meeting.

Man...did I suffer driving that thing.


Sorry in advance for any Grand Caravan owners...but, that thing am the suck.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Recently had to rent a Dodge Grand Caravan to haul my team out of town for a meeting.

Man...did I suffer driving that thing.


Sorry in advance for any Grand Caravan owners...but, that thing am the suck.
It's no 50S is it?
Old 09-21-2012, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
Yup...debt is a great thing. Viva la North American values!
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
It's no 50S is it?


Well, the driver's seat was very uncomfortable and the pedals were positioned weird.

Anyhow, not a great vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Yup...debt is a great thing. Viva la North American values!
It's not really debt if you're renting
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
I called lol. They can do 15-60 months, this particular quote of $2699 was for a 15 month with $35k down (not sure why it says $19,999 on the pic), 7500 miles a year (variable), residual value $200k. The sticker price is $258k.


20k down must be for the model without a built in butt scratcher, its the old bait and switch
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Originally Posted by charliemike
It's not really debt if you're renting


Look, I won't lie...if my wife were not involved at all, I'd happily go into bankruptcy to own a DBS.
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Looks like someone daily drove a 430...

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tab=summary&recnum=&actLog=&listingId=8 9306788&paId=452958500&listingRecNum=21&criteria=p rMx%3d100000%26sf1Dir%3dDESC%26prMn%3d0%26mkId%3d2 0014%26stkTyp%3dU%26rd%3d100000%26crSrtFlds%3dstkT ypId-feedSegId-mkId-pseudoPrice%26zc%3d27513%26rn%3d0%26PMmt%3d1-0-0%26stkTypId%3d28881%26sf2Dir%3dASC%26sf1Nm%3dpric e%26sf2Nm%3dmiles%26isDealerGrouping%3dfalse%26rpp %3d250%26feedSegId%3d28705&tracktype=usedcc&pageNu mber=&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage= 0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE&certifiedOn ly=false&&aff=national
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Want a '66 GT40 in original Gulf Livery? Here's one right near me...I'd be happy to test drive it for you - http://www.scottsdalesport.com/detai...d-7138146.html
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Or, how about a 1965 Ferrari 330GT 2+2 Coupe? http://www.scottsdalesport.com/detai...d-7855970.html
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:16 PM
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87k miles

Those seats are hideous too.

Originally Posted by ttribe
Want a '66 GT40 in original Gulf Livery? Here's one right near me...I'd be happy to test drive it for you - http://www.scottsdalesport.com/detai...d-7138146.html
Fuuuuuuuuuu
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Only $1.2M for a 4-year old CCX: http://www.highline-autos.com/for-sa...Koenigsegg-CCX
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Where's Morgan? He will be all over that.
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Originally Posted by ttribe
Want a '66 GT40 in original Gulf Livery? Here's one right near me...I'd be happy to test drive it for you - http://www.scottsdalesport.com/detai...d-7138146.html
*gurgles*

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Ccx too bad i have to sell most of my body parts, and several others parts to get it
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*gurgles*

Thought you might like that.
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the CCX is mine. stay away.
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Fine. I want the Zonda anyhow.
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Speaking of go-carting...with the "break-in" period over for my wife's MINI, I've been hooliganing it more in it recently. Man, is it a fun car.

I can only imagine how much better it is in the Coupe or the Cooper.
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I thought this was hilarious. A CCX with the Ferrari emblem on its ass



Originally Posted by srika
the CCX is mine. stay away.
I CHALLENGE YOU DO A DUEL!
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Speaking of go-carting...with the "break-in" period over for my wife's MINI, I've been hooliganing it more in it recently. Man, is it a fun car.

I can only imagine how much better it is in the Coupe or the Cooper.
Wait, didnt you get it a few months ago? Its only now broken in?
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Wait, didnt you get it a few months ago? Its only now broken in?
Took awhile to reach 2000km.

And I don't drive it often since on weekends, we take out the FX.
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Originally Posted by ttribe
Want a '66 GT40 in original Gulf Livery? Here's one right near me...I'd be happy to test drive it for you - http://www.scottsdalesport.com/detai...d-7138146.html
Shame it's a Superformance rep though instead of an actual '66 model.
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Any 8-series fans?

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3286276307.html
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Judging by the cars in the background, I think that car was well taken care of.
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Better than that white one I sent you last time for $8k


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