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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 08:57 PM
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I'm surprised, the reviews I read said the base seats were much improved over the previous-gen.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 08:58 PM
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I'm surprised, the reviews I read said the base seats were much improved over the previous-gen.
I think they were driving GT or Ecoboost Premium models. I forgot he said he drove a base GT. I think that's the difference.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 09:50 PM
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Just test drove a new 5.0. Had some spare time in between meetings outside.

The dealer had only one 5.0 model. It had zero options. It was this ugly yellow color one which I hated.

The salesman started to give me that dumb attitude again saying oh we dont do test drives. This is a special car. People dont buy these cars with many miles on it.

In that situation, I usually tell them to eff off and leave but I did have to kill about 1.5 hours... so I decided to out-cocky them.

After some magical moments, they let me test drive it.

The car drove marvelously. It was super smooth. The rear end feels much lighter footed than the previous generation exactly how people would expect it to be with the newly worked suspension set up.

This one had literally no options so the center console looked terribly blank. But I can see how it would look much, much better with the tech package. The seats were terrible as well since it didnt have those lovely Recaros.

The car just feels smaller and nimbler. You can definitely feel it when you drive it. Ive driven previous generation models a lot so it's very promising.

The exterior is just fantastic. Just love it. The road presence is just amazing. I mean it's just a Mustang but people look at it as if it's something much more high profile.

Anyway, I loved it!
Cool write-up on your impressions on the all-new Honda Accord, Kimchi!




If it's that good, can you imagine the GT350?
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 11:26 PM
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Yeah man. Honda did a GREAT job on the new Accord. It's amazing.

I don't know guys. I really don't care about the regular seats when you can easily get the Recaros for pretty cheap. Don't matter if it's heated and cooled.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
Yeah man. Honda did a GREAT job on the new Accord. It's amazing.


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I don't know guys. I really don't care about the regular seats when you can easily get the Recaros for pretty cheap. Don't matter if it's heated and cooled.
I agree that it should not really be a show-stopper given how impressive the rest of the car is.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 12:26 PM
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 12:41 PM
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no markup?
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 12:46 PM
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doesn't seem like it!
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 12:48 PM
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There must be a mark up. lol

And I don't think I will ever purchase a Hellcat.. even though it's fast as heck!
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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markup usually is on the crap they add to the right side of the Manuf. sticker.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 01:05 PM
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Yep.

The 5.0 Mustang I test drove yesterday had $5k mark up on the right side of sticker sheet.

The sales manager was about to brag about how special and had to put the mark up on it... I told him to just stop. He stopped.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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according to this, if Hellcats are sitting too long on dealer floors because of markup, Dodge is going to allocate them to other dealers that are selling them quicker - who knows the real story but Dodge is making this effort.

How Dodge dealers are earning the right to sell Hellcats - Autoblog
Furthermore, how quickly the Hellcat sells is also going to decide whether showrooms get more of them. "If you want to market-adjust the car, that's your right. But if your days-on-lot goes above what the other guys that are selling them at MSRP is, they will end up earning the allocation because their days-on-lot will be lower," he said to Automotive News. Obviously, this doesn't prevent dealers from marking up the Challenger SRT, but the strategy certainly discourages it.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 01:18 PM
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I think the mark ups are stupid.. but then I saw some people paying $100k on top of BMW i8's sticker.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
according to this, if Hellcats are sitting too long on dealer floors because of markup, Dodge is going to allocate them to other dealers that are selling them quicker - who knows the real story but Dodge is making this effort.

How Dodge dealers are earning the right to sell Hellcats - Autoblog
Thanks for posting this. I was trying to find the link but came up empty handed.

I think it also applies to the Viper, since they now allow any dealer to sell it, not just preferred dealers.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
I think the mark ups are stupid.. but then I saw some people paying $100k on top of BMW i8's sticker.
Kinda like when the GT-R first arrived. The market will balance itself out...I'm hoping the Hellcat will become quite affordable in the used market in a couple of years.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
You spend $6,750 more over 5 years on fuel.....and $30k in tires.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
You spend $6,750 more over 5 years on fuel.....and $30k in tires.
worth every penny
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 02:06 PM
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Gotta pay to play!
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
Gotta pay to play!
Stole the words right outta my mouth, Kimchi.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 02:59 PM
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still about 10.80 @ 126
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
still about 10.80 @ 126
i think the car should be faster than 10.80.

275 is too skinny for that much power.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 03:43 PM
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Anything wider might be too much for the trans / diff.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 03:50 PM
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It comes with 275? Jeez. That's skinny for sure.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 03:51 PM
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That's what she said..
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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btw.. 10.8 is on DRs..
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 04:13 PM
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O.. well then that car is not that fast after all... GTR>
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 04:26 PM
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How is the "total price" less than the "base price" on that hellcat sticker??

Nope, never mind, I'm on drugs. I thought the "6" was actually a "5" lol
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
btw.. 10.8 is on DRs..
if they are street tires, the number stands. is what I say.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 08:17 PM
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if they are street tires, the number stands. is what I say.
Do you know what DR stands for?
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 08:22 PM
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thought it was drag radial
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 08:25 PM
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Yes.

You get faster times with DRs than with summer tires.

Most of the cars that get reviewed are on summer tires.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 08:36 PM
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yeah, that's why I was saying if its street tires, then the time is legit. drag radials are street tires meaning street legal

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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 09:27 PM
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i think it is in the 11s with stock street tires and most of us probably will be in the high 12s since we won't be able to launch it correctly.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 09:39 PM
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The auto would be much easier to launch, I think. And the stock tires were 11.3 I think. With an average Joe driver, it should be in the high 11s easily.

Which, from a factory four door, is absolutely insane.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 09:48 PM
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yeah, that's why I was saying if its street tires, then the time is legit. drag radials are street tires meaning street legal

So you don't get what I'm saying? or just trying not to understand it?
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 11:32 PM
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I'm pretty sure the DRs they used were closer to slicks. The stock tires are P-zeros.

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i think it is in the 11s with stock street tires and most of us probably will be in the high 12s since we won't be able to launch it correctly.
Just start in 2nd and try to keep it straight.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
Just test drove a new 5.0. Had some spare time in between meetings outside.

Anyway, I loved it!
Now imagine going to Willow in one!

Get it already.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
btw.. 10.8 is on DRs..
Originally Posted by srika
if they are street tires, the number stands. is what I say.
Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
Do you know what DR stands for?
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thought it was drag radial
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Yes.

You get faster times with DRs than with summer tires.

Most of the cars that get reviewed are on summer tires.
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yeah, that's why I was saying if its street tires, then the time is legit. drag radials are street tires meaning street legal

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So you don't get what I'm saying? or just trying not to understand it?
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I'm pretty sure the DRs they used were closer to slicks. The stock tires are P-zeros.



Just start in 2nd and try to keep it straight.
Did you guys get possessed by the evil spirit of SSFTSX?!
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 10:09 AM
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So you don't get what I'm saying? or just trying not to understand it?
You're saying that DR's are faster than regular street tires and that most cars are tested with regular street tires. Right? I'm saying, this car is fuggin' fast any way you slice it, and with DR's it is running a smoldering 10.80 @ 126

Hmm you have to keep my background in mind which involved lots of drag racing. Where I'm from, it would be pretty customary and not unexpected to have DR's on this car for daily use. And, when quoting a car's performance numbers it is completely legit to quote a number on DR's, especially for high performance cars such as this.

You could def be in the 11's easy with the Auto trans and launch control setup right.

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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 10:11 AM
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Did you guys get possessed by the evil spirit of SSFTSX?!
I don't know. I think he wants to fight. It's just a damn number.
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