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Based on what R&T said, it just made me want an M3 even more.
Because it is not made for everyone and soccer moms, it is made for people who love to drive!
If i just wanted to turn the steering wheel and the car will just turn at 70mph without drama, then i will go buy an appliance, i mean the TLX SHAWD.
Based on what R&T said, it just made me want an M3 even more.
Because it is not made for everyone and soccer moms, it is made for people who love to drive!
If i just wanted to turn the steering wheel and the car will just turn at 70mph without drama, then i will go buy an appliance, i mean the TLX SHAWD.
Last edited by oonowindoo; Nov 12, 2014 at 07:03 PM.
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just be glad that BMW still care about people who buy 6mt.
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Based on what R&T said, it just made me want an M3 even more.
Because it is not made for everyone and soccer moms, it is made for people who love to drive!
If i just wanted to turn the steering wheel and the car will just turn at 70mph without drama, then i will go buy an appliance, i mean the TLX SHAWD.
Based on what R&T said, it just made me want an M3 even more.
Because it is not made for everyone and soccer moms, it is made for people who love to drive!
If i just wanted to turn the steering wheel and the car will just turn at 70mph without drama, then i will go buy an appliance, i mean the TLX SHAWD.
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Based on what R&T said, it just made me want an M3 even more.
Because it is not made for everyone and soccer moms, it is made for people who love to drive!
If i just wanted to turn the steering wheel and the car will just turn at 70mph without drama, then i will go buy an appliance, i mean the TLX SHAWD.
Based on what R&T said, it just made me want an M3 even more.
Because it is not made for everyone and soccer moms, it is made for people who love to drive!
If i just wanted to turn the steering wheel and the car will just turn at 70mph without drama, then i will go buy an appliance, i mean the TLX SHAWD.
You also missed the point. Their point isn't my grandmother can't drive this.. their point is it went from being a tactical guided missile to an air-fuel bomb.
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i can most definitely guarantee you that the M3 is faster than a Mustang GT in any direction regardless what the HP #s are. BTW: The new m3 is faster than the new Z28 in a straight line.
While there are some exceptions, but i would assume most of the people who buy 30K Mustang GT will not be able to afford a 80k M3 comfortably, otherwise you can bet they will get the M3. The key word is comfortably.
Can i afford a M3? yes... do i want to? No, because that means i have to sacrifice on other things and that also means i can't afford it comfortably.
However, double my salary and i will tell you, why would i wanna buy a Mustang GT when buying an M3 does little to nothing to my wallet.
While there are some exceptions, but i would assume most of the people who buy 30K Mustang GT will not be able to afford a 80k M3 comfortably, otherwise you can bet they will get the M3. The key word is comfortably.
Can i afford a M3? yes... do i want to? No, because that means i have to sacrifice on other things and that also means i can't afford it comfortably.
However, double my salary and i will tell you, why would i wanna buy a Mustang GT when buying an M3 does little to nothing to my wallet.
Take that $30k and drop it into aftermarket mods for the Mustang and see what happens. I know that most people won't do this but it's still a valid point. Granted dropping $30k in mods for just about any car will make it stupid fast.
FWIW, If I had the budget to buy an M3, I probably still wouldn't buy one. Only because I can't justify spending $70k on a toy. That said, same applies to a Mustang.
There's no doubt it's an engineering marvel. And there's a reason it costs $70-80k. I don't think anyone would rationally compare even a loaded Mustang GT Performance Pack with a base model M3 or M4. They are simply different cars for different people.
But, in the echelon below the M3/M4 the Mustang GT might rule now. I haven't driven one yet. But everything I've read so far suggests it might be the best all-around sports car in America for ~$40K.
That is, until the Golf R gets here ...
But, in the echelon below the M3/M4 the Mustang GT might rule now. I haven't driven one yet. But everything I've read so far suggests it might be the best all-around sports car in America for ~$40K.
That is, until the Golf R gets here ...
Also, Golf R Wagon or go home. Waiting for Focus RS.
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i did not watch it. 228 vs CLA vs A3
I am pretty sure ILX wanted to be a part of it.
228i vs A3 and CLA - Autotrader video reviews
I am pretty sure ILX wanted to be a part of it.
228i vs A3 and CLA - Autotrader video reviews
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i did not watch it. 228 vs CLA vs A3
I am pretty sure ILX wanted to be a part of it.
228i vs A3 and CLA - Autotrader video reviews
I am pretty sure ILX wanted to be a part of it.
228i vs A3 and CLA - Autotrader video reviews
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2015 VW Golf (R, GTI, TDI, TSI, and e-Golf) named Motor Trend Car of the Year 
LINKY
I can't wait till I get my TDI SE. Ordered on Sept 15, supposed to be built on Nov 17
Will probably get it the 2nd or 3rd week of December.
I'm tired of driving the Caravan.
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I can't wait till I get my TDI SE. Ordered on Sept 15, supposed to be built on Nov 17
Will probably get it the 2nd or 3rd week of December.
I'm tired of driving the Caravan.
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I guess I had teh tab open a little too long.. i was ughing to the ilx. 
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damn.. just peeped the 2015 Charger R/T Scat Pack.. so much goodness for 40k. I think I'm going to buy it. Because I'll probably crash into a tree at 45 mph in the Hellcat.
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But it is a much better all around car now for sure.
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Saw my first 2015 Mustang in the wild. Was an Ecoboost Performance Pack. Looked great. Can't wait to drive one. Still unsure about another Ford.
Also bought my sister's 2003 AV6. 120,000 miles on it. TCS is broken but otherwise in good form.
Also bought my sister's 2003 AV6. 120,000 miles on it. TCS is broken but otherwise in good form.
Speaking of Mustangs, my friend is trading in his FR-S for a 2015. He placed the order yesterday - Ecoboost Premium with Performance Pack in Aspen White. It'll be ready in 8-12 weeks.
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viscerally.. I'd get a GT as well.. but for the coin and the output we've seen already.. tough to argue against the ecoboost. I know there are a few in the low 12's with a tune and minor mods.
We'll see if the slushbox can handle the power though.
We'll see if the slushbox can handle the power though.
Last edited by Majofo; Nov 16, 2014 at 09:22 PM.
