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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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Read the article between the Challenger RT Scat Pack, Camaro SS 1LE and 15 GT. Performance wise.. the 1LE was better. It's the combination of everything includings interior / exterior styling that put the GT ahead.
Randy Pobst agreed. I think the 1LE is extraordinary for $42k. But I would only own one if I was going to track it on weekends and wanted a car to drive there too.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 02:25 PM
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I heard the new 2016 Camaro on the Alpha platform will be by far the largest redesign to the Camaro since the current generation was introduced. I would wait for that too especially if you are considering the current gen. Camaro at all. I like the new Track Pack Mustang, but the 1LE.. I quite dig those too. Of course if it were me I'd buy a used Lotus Exige/Porsche Cayman, M235i, or BRZ and $14k in parts anyday over either.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 03:45 PM
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I heard the new 2016 Camaro on the Alpha platform will be by far the largest redesign to the Camaro since the current generation was introduced. I would wait for that too especially if you are considering the current gen. Camaro at all. I like the new Track Pack Mustang, but the 1LE.. I quite dig those too. Of course if it were me I'd buy a used Lotus Exige/Porsche Cayman, M235i, or BRZ and $14k in parts anyday over either.
Well there are tradeoffs with all those cars. Either cost of entry, cost of maintenance, cost of upgrades ...

I have no idea what it will require to maintain a 1LE but it would not surprise me to know it's cheaper than a Cayman, M235i, etc.

BTW, the 1LE would annihilate a M235i.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 03:57 PM
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Oh, man ...

Is Acura working on a premium minivan? - Autoblog
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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Are you freaking kidding?!

If this is for real, and as if it hadn't happened already, this would be definitive proof that Acura has jumped-the-shark!

Countdown to someone calling me a hater - 10...9...8...
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 04:27 PM
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Is this the new Integra?!?
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 04:57 PM
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No, it's the new NSX in a minivan's body.





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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 05:10 PM
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That's amazing. They are so lost as a brand.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I accept this on the condition that it drives up the value of my car as one of the last good Acuras built.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 05:31 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 05:40 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 05:49 PM
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i wonder if this is a real acura or an odyssey disguised with acura parts, as some commenters think. the interior looks straight out of an MDX but it also looks pretty hacked at the base of the windshield and dash.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EzeE1o
i wonder if this is a real acura or an odyssey disguised with acura parts, as some commenters think. the interior looks straight out of an MDX but it also looks pretty hacked at the base of the windshield and dash.
I really hope that it is a Odyssey. I really do.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike

Well there are tradeoffs with all those cars. Either cost of entry, cost of maintenance, cost of upgrades ...

I have no idea what it will require to maintain a 1LE but it would not surprise me to know it's cheaper than a Cayman, M235i, etc.

BTW, the 1LE would annihilate a M235i.
I heard the Lotus/Porsche are generally pretty bulletproof. Yea I do agree on the 1LE annihilating the M235i, but unless I live on a track I'd take the M235i for a DD and occasional track car. If I was looking for a track car then I'd take the Lotus/Cayman. 2002-2003 Vipers are also at the same price range.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 06:25 PM
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2002 Viper..
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike


If you can't outsell your competitors in the bread and butter segments (small-midsize), go after the niche segments! The competition will never see it coming, just like the ZDX.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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I can't wait for Acura motorcycles.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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And Acura pick-up trucks.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 07:41 PM
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And Acura scooters.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 07:54 PM
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It might not look THAT bad.. At least they're beating Lexus to it.

Just a quick PS. I know the sheet metal is different.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 07:56 PM
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Introducing Acura's new turbocharged V8 SH-AWD minivan. The powertrain you want, in the body style you and your wife both hate.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Timmy18
It might not look THAT bad.. At least they're beating Lexus to it.
No plans in the pipeline to jump the shark yet.

After the GS-F, comes the production LF-LC.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 08:04 PM
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Introducing Acura's new turbocharged V8 SH-AWD minivan. The powertrain you want, in the body style you and your wife both hate.
It's that kind of thrill
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Timmy18
At least they're beating Lexus to it.
You're joking, right?
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
2002 Viper..
My friend got a '04 Viper for his first car.. That thing will scare the shit out of you... In a good way of course.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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Price negotiable, this is very tempting. Especially, given Tim's experience:

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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 10:44 PM
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V8 minivan? yeah right - it would have a 3.5L V6, NA.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Price negotiable, this is very tempting. Especially, given Tim's experience:

Used 2012 BMW 335i Convertible 3 For Sale in Silver Spring MD | WBADX7C52CE744703
Dooooo it.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
No plans in the pipeline to jump the shark yet.

After the GS-F, comes the production LF-LC.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 10:57 PM
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My friend got a '04 Viper for his first car.. That thing will scare the shit out of you... In a good way of course.
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
I agree.
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
No guarantees this will be it, but between it, the FT-One "supposedly" coming under Lexus, & rumors of a green lit next-gen. LFA, the common denominator is that Lexus is planning to release a high horsepower coupe back onto the market in the next 3 years.
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 02:14 AM
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Pay attention Acura derps. Or just fuck Acura into non-existence.. whatever.
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 06:53 AM
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Mercedes has pulled an Infiniti and renamed all their SUVs to start with GL.

So there is the GLA, GLC (GLK), GLE (ML), and GLS (GL). Only the Gwagen stays as a G. The cheat makes it clear this alignment makes sense and shows where Mercedes might full in gaps with yet more models.

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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 08:44 AM
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I don't necessarily hate that. It actually makes sense, unlike the Infinity mess.
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 08:48 AM
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The MB rebranding doesn't bug me so much, I like that they dropped the CLK in favor of an E-coupe & the CL for the S-coupe.

As said in the other thread, bring back proper numbering! My S550 is actually a 4.6 Just call it an S460.
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Price negotiable, this is very tempting. Especially, given Tim's experience:

Used 2012 BMW 335i Convertible 3 For Sale in Silver Spring MD | WBADX7C52CE744703
That one should have the N55 as well. It's not as moddable (is that a word?), in terms of tuning because it only has a single turbo charger (albeit twin-scroll), but it's supposed to have had fewer issues.
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
No guarantees this will be it, but between it, the FT-One "supposedly" coming under Lexus, & rumors of a green lit next-gen. LFA, the common denominator is that Lexus is planning to release a high horsepower coupe back onto the market in the next 3 years.
are you sure? I thought they green-lighted it
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 10:26 AM
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