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Old 10-16-2010, 03:56 AM
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Actually Edmunds already complained about small side mirrors of 5 series.



Sonata has the worst design & size for side mirrors






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Originally Posted by MyCarIsntInMyWifesName
*insert random picture of Acura model here, discuss ground clearance and side mirror design*
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Lol, I think SSFTSX really is having us on right now....
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He fits this definition to a T.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

You guys are all getting trolled. HARD.
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And once again he defends the Acura badge citing the others have bad mirror designs and Acura's are the best
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@ bragging on mirrors.

Maybe coin holders are next!
Old 10-17-2010, 02:58 AM
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It is not just Acura but Honda has superior styling with squarish designs.

Even 5speed Auto Accord V6 coupe is faster than 6AT Hyundai Turbo. Imagine if this Accord coupe gets 6AT. It will put Hyundai turbo to shame in performance/handling and fuel economy. Only Accord Coupe Weight and size matches Hyundai Sonata turbo.


V6 Accord sedan is 200 lbs heavier. Honda Accord is still the bench mark in looks and it will age very well.


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I think those mirrors are hideous
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Fuck I know we're getting played like a fiddle here, but it's just so fun to go back and forth with this guy.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
It is not just Acura but Honda has superior styling with squarish designs.
Those Honda designs are way to curvy.

THIS is the design for you!

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Old 10-17-2010, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
I think those mirrors are hideous
Honda Accord has Elegance for family sedan. 2011 MMC look way better even in basic SE trim. Cars like Mazda 6/Sonata design have cheapness for family sedan.

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Who has the best ground clearance and side mirror designs in the industry?
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Originally Posted by pttl
Those Honda designs are way to curvy.

THIS is the design for you!
Wow, finally, pics of the new Honda Element!!!
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The 8G Accord....that's considered ELEGANCE? Woof. And those mirrors are ugly.
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Yeap, those big rectangular red student driver car reflectors on the Accord's trunk lid just scream elegance!
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I dont see that reflectors add cheapness to the car. Those were part of Asian Accord from beginning.







. Hyundai copied MB C class with oversize turn indicators on small mirrors.
Old 10-17-2010, 03:24 PM
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On a more important note those Accord door handles are the same as the TSX, just upside down.
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Originally Posted by Costco
He fits this definition to a T.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

You guys are all getting trolled. HARD.
The ignore feature...use it and your sanity will return shortly. If everybody has him on ignore, there will be nobody to see his trolling. Problem solved.
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Mods - how about closing this thread till the end of the month - otherwise it'll get PWed by meaningless posts.
Old 10-17-2010, 05:49 PM
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Just for giggles...

Originally Posted by SSFTSX
I dont believe on those figures.
Wow, shocking!

Originally Posted by SSFTSX
How do they calculate this Incentive spending.

Like Honda sell far more more and higher priced SUVs than Hyundai.
Uhh, Toyota/Lexus sell a lot more higher priced SUVs, much less an F segment sedan and pick-ups, than Honda/Acura.

Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Acura is extension of Honda. No separate platforms or V8s. I am pretty sure those sitting in Japan Headquarter of Honda will be pretty happy with Acura performance.
And that is why Acura is not seen as a Tier 1 luxury brand, even by Honda/Acura execs.

Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Honda Accord is still the bench mark in looks and it will age very well.
Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Honda Accord has Elegance for family sedan. 2011 MMC look way better even in basic SE trim. Cars like Mazda 6/Sonata design have cheapness for family sedan.
LOL!

Let's see what Phil Patton, a teacher at the School of Visual Arts in New York and automobile-design writer for the New York Times says.

Acura ought to have a movie tie-in deal: With its breve-shaped metal mouths, its cars look more like the original Transformer toys than any of the GM products that are featured in those “films.”

Honda’s cars used to look a lot better. The mission statement of Honda design lists “people” as one of three key inputs, but the company rarely singles out any people on its design staff. Few are mentioned by name—at least outside the California studio, where Dave Marek of Honda and Jon Ikeda of Acura are at work.

There’s design that celebrates engineering and efficiency, like that of the practical Fit. But why the unnatural affection for fastback rooflines that descend with the sickening skid of a recent 401k value chart, as on the ZDX and the Crosstour?
Honda/Acura: grade C-

Hyundai: B+

Kia: A-

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...graded-feature

Originally Posted by SSFTSX
I dont see that reflectors add cheapness to the car. Those were part of Asian Accord from beginning.

Hyundai copied MB C class with oversize turn indicators on small mirrors.
Aside from the Accord copying BMW's Hofmeister kink for the greenhouse/C-pillar, the taillights extension is taken from BMW as well.

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WTF is wrong with ya'll?? the other thread got closed because of this nonsense.
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Originally Posted by YEH


Uhh, Toyota/Lexus sell a lot more higher priced SUVs, much less an F segment sedan and pick-ups, than Honda/Acura.
Those are few Japanese built SUVs that Lexus sell higher priced. It isnt some magic.


And that is why Acura is not seen as a Tier 1 luxury brand, even by Honda/Acura execs.
They certainly dont have in mind Lexus especially after recent downfall.




LOL!

Let's see what Phil Patton, a teacher at the School of Visual Arts in New York and automobile-design writer for the New York Times says.



Honda/Acura: grade C-

Hyundai: B+

Kia: A-
This guy is a joker for giving cheap designs A & B grades.

Aside from the Accord copying BMW's Hofmeister kink for the greenhouse/C-pillar, the taillights extension is taken from BMW as well.

These rear garnish trend was started by Japanese in 80s. and it was present on Honda Concerto/Civic and on certain Rover models that Honda bought.







why dont u look at rear of BMW 5. Didnto 2002 Euro Accord has that rear strips on the lowe bumper?

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WTF is wrong with ya'll?? the other thread got closed because of this nonsense.
We need to take the next step. It's time to start putting people who reply to him on the ignore list.
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I have him on ignore and yet I just can't resist looking to see what idiocy he has posted next! I know, I have a problem....
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I use to have him on ignore, but we all need a good laugh every once in a while.
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I'm with the two above....
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Honda Accord has Elegance for family sedan.
Elegance Thats a good one. Looks more like a Bulbous Whale
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Okay...sorry, how does side mirrors have anything to do with monthly sales? Sorry, I'm missing something here.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Looks more like a Bulbous Whale
lol
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Elegance Thats a good one. Looks more like a Bulbous Whale
There is understated elegance in car.
which car is out proportion with small windows /overize doors and overhangs bigger for its size?.





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Alright, SSFTSX...This has gone off-tangent enough. If you want to go talk about the "elegance" of said cars, start a thread in Car Talk...


I ask nicely once.
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11/03/2010

American Honda Motor Co., Inc., posted October sales of 98,811 vehicles, an increase of 19.8% based on the daily selling rate*, the company announced today. American Honda year-to-date sales reached 1,011,247, an increase of 5.1% versus last year based on the daily selling rate.

Honda Division posted October sales of 87,800, an increase of 20.2% versus last year. The Accord was the top-selling Honda model for the month with sales of 24,344, up 8.8%, followed by the CR-V with sales of 18,040, up 19.4%, and the Civic with sales of 17,121, up 11.9%. The availability of the all-new 2011 Odyssey, in its 1st full month on the market, contributed to that model’s increase of 52.2% for a total of 9,955. Overall, Honda Division light-truck sales increased 37.8% to 41,463.

"The all-new Odyssey is off to a strong start in its first full month on the market," said John Mendel, executive vice president of sales for American Honda. "The redesigned minivan brings the right balance of functionality, upscale features and fuel economy, just as the light-truck segment begins to gain momentum."

Acura Division posted October sales of 11,011, an increase of 17.1% versus October 2009, and year-to-date sales reached 107,399, an increase of 25.3%. The MDX was the top-selling Acura model for the month with sales of 3,945, up 6.7%. Acura TL sales totaled 3,042, up 25.6%, followed by the TSX with sales of 2,251, up 1.6%.

*The daily selling rate (DSR) is calculated with 27 days for October 2010 and 28 days for October 2009. Year-to-date, the DSR is calculated with 255 days for 2010 and 257 days for 2009. All percentages reflect DSR.

For more information about Honda vehicles, please visit www.honda.com. For media inquiries please visit www.hondanews.com. For more information about Acura vehicles, please visit www.acura.com. For media inquiries please visit www.acuranews.com.

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Someone was hiding an S2000 somewhere.
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IS the ZDX still in short supply or can we officially call it a dog?
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^ short supply.
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IS the ZDX still in short supply or can we officially call it a dog?
Everyone loves the ZDX and Insight!!!
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The CR-Z is actually selling pretty well. Im surprised the Ridgeline is still selling in the thousands.
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^ aside from the un-Honda gas mileage, it's a pretty good vehicle for city folks who make the occasional trip to Home Depot and don't want a Ranger or something bigger like the Avalanche.

I still think Honda made it a tad on the big side, hope it gets a 2nd gen and downsized a bit for lower wt, better gas mileage & maneuvarability (the hoodline is pretty bad from the driver's seat).
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Originally Posted by phile
^ aside from the un-Honda gas mileage, it's a pretty good vehicle for city folks who make the occasional trip to Home Depot and don't want a Ranger or something bigger like the Avalanche.

I still think Honda made it a tad on the big side, hope it gets a 2nd gen and downsized a bit for lower wt, better gas mileage & maneuvarability (the hoodline is pretty bad from the driver's seat).
Agreed. But I also hope they made it better looking. Its The Ridgeline was the first of the ugly duckling Honda's IIRC.


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