fsttyms1

I see that publication as a joke. I have never cared for their reviews and articles. Half the time i honestly wonder if the ones doing the reviewing know how to drive.

fsttyms1

Like i said in my post, the 4g forum.
I did a quick search in the 4g forum, i had quite a few threads come up about warped brakes.

smarty666

Luckily for me, I've had two 3G TLs both of which have had no brake or rotor issues what so ever, but I have seen threads on both the 3G and 4G discussions of people having issues.

I've read that the TSX has had even worse issues with pre-mature brake/rotor wear/problems.

fsttyms1

Every acura/honda product i have ever seen or driven has had warping rotor syndrome.

Moog-Type-S

....except for their motorcycles

fsttyms1

And lawn mowers. Oh wait, they dont have brakes (maybe the riding mower does) But my trans failed on my walk behind harmony if that says any thing about honda and auto trans.

pttl

At the risk of encouraging a certain Honda fanboi.....Honda motorcycles are pretty darned good.

Colin

Interestingly, none of our 3 Integra GS-Rs, 4 S2000s or RSX have ever had warped rotors. Also never had a transmission fail (though I've never owned a slushbox). However, my current TSX is exhibiting some shudder under braking so I'm guessing I've stared to develop some warping. Only a few months left on the lease so I think I can live with it.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

Ive not noticed the warped rotors in many of the smaller cars (Civic, Integra), but the Accord/Pilots/Odysseys/CLs/TLs are notorious for it.

Will Y.

My experience is different.
Our Civic, 2G Odyssey and 3G TL never had any brake issues. My Integra developed one slightly warped disc in the first couple of months after purchase; the dealer machined it and it had no further brake issues thereafter.

biker

+1

Belzebutt

I had brake issues on both my Accord and TSX.

SSFTSX

confirmation of what i posted before. excellent ground clearance and offraod ability.
ZDX is no less than Q5.

Crazy Bimmer

^ How about posting the article that goes with those pictures.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

How deep do you go up your ass to pull out such outlandish comments?

Audi Q7 Ground Clearance: 8.1"
http://autos.aol.com/cars-Audi-Q7-2010/specs/

Acura ZDX Ground Clearance: 6.5"
http://autos.aol.com/cars-Acura-ZDX-2010/specs/

Clearly, less is more

Hapa DC5

yawn.... is it me or the more desperate South San Francisco TSX gets with outlandish posts the more boring this becomes?

It was definitely better when he would just post some off the wall shit we'd come back prove him wrong and move to the next thing to argue about. It's just not as fun anymore.

SSFTSX

Less is more when you rely on AOL data.
Q5 uses 18inch standard with larger section. ZDX has more space for rising the height.
ZDX has high ground clearance even if you looked by our own naked eyes.

These very tall and wide tires with still large wheel well left Not tires of a coupe. as coupe is never going to use 50 section on 19inch.

Shift_Acura

http://autos.aol.com/cars-Audi-Q5-2010/specs/

Q5 has 7.9 inches

I thought I would post this since its so important to Monthly Car Sales

Hapa DC5

lol

pttl

WOW! Maybe we've finally found what the Power Plenum is good for...plowing through muddy water!

TSX69

Movers & Losers

August car sales dipped a bit against last year’s Cash for Clunkers and things slowed down on the Movers and Losers list, too. The average number of days it took to sell a new car was 57.8, up from 56 in July. That’s far better than the number of 82 days it took in August 2009.

In an odd bit of hybrid irony, Honda’s new CR-Z hybrid topped the Movers list, while the 2010 Honda Insight hybrid took 95 days to sell, making it one of our picks for consumers looking for deals on slow-selling models.

On the Losers list, the Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback retained the top spot and 5 other cars also remain from July's Losers list. The lists and our methodology are listed below.

Movers

* 2011 Honda CR-Z: 5 days
* 2011 Chevy Equinox: 6 days
* 2011 Ford Fusion: 6 days
* 2011 GMC Terrain: 6 days
* 2011 Land Rover Range Rover Sport: 7 days
* 2011 Infiniti QX56: 8 days
* 2011 Mercedes-Benz C300: 8 days
* 2011 Toyota Tacoma: 8 days
* 2011 Audi A5 coupe: 9 days
* 2011 Cadillac SRX: 9 days
* 2011 Ford Escape: 9 days
* 2011 VW Jetta SportWagen: 9 days


Losers

* 2010 Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback: 207 days
* 2010 Scion xD: 189 days
* 2010 Suzuki SX4 Sportback: 188 days
* 2010 Ford Transit Connect: 161 days
* 2010 Mazda RX-8: 152 days
* 2010 Mercury Mariner Hybrid: 145 days
* 2010 Lexus HS 250h: 129 days
* 2010 Mazda MX-5: 117 days
* 2010 Kia Optima: 107 days
* 2010 Acura RL: 106 days

phile

who the hell is snapping up those ugly Infiniti QX's?!

i saw one on the road, the thing is ginormous...and ugly

Hapa DC5

The QX is a freaking tank, I didn't like the way the previous gen looked either

alex2364

The CR-Z is gonna be on the losers list by the end of the year.

SSFTSX

this is just one of criteria. ZDX has similar ground clearance.

The following are important features for offroad ability,
lighter weight. power to weight ratio. not as heavy as LX/QX. too much weight

Approach and departure angle. ZDX has larger overhangs than Q5/X5 but overhangs curve upwards so dont effect the capability.

Short wheel base (look at historic Jeep) and tight turning circle. Short wheel base with oversize 19inch standard rubber add the most to offroad ability along with large wheel wells for individual wheel movement.

Q5/X5 both has larger wheel bases for standard tire size. They need 20inch to be comparable to ZDX 19inch. and that adds to weight and hindered individual wheel movement on wheel wells on extreme rocks.
sophistication of AWD system to balance power-torque distribution is more important in snow/desert

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

Im just speechless. You've astounded me with your logic (most call it stupidity).

I really feel bad for whomever asks you about car buying choices.

MyCarIsntInMyWifesName

Ingoring the idiot that is SSFTSX and getting back on topic, I noticed the Kizashi has been a failure month after month.

Camry 30,764
Accord 25,148
Sonata 21,399
Altima 18,491
Malibu 18,182
Fusion 17,082
Sebring 4,498
Impreza 3,801
Mazda6 2,811
Optima 1,714
Passat 1,669
Kizashi 478

Courtesy of TSX69

Too small and not from a brand that many buyers can think of.

dom

None of this has anything to do with monthly sales. Take those posts to the ZDX thread.

pttl

Have you ever seen a Kizashi? There is a Suzuki dealer not far from me. So when the car first came out, following all the hoopla, I went to see it. When I got there I thought..."this is it? wtf?"

smarty666

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

Agreed. The concept was actually pretty cool. But then when it was released it looked alot like the outgoing Jetta.

Concept:





What we get:

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

Now I'm starting to think that it's just you.

fsttyms1

Hey, some were known to have issues.

phile

I hope they learn from this, cause that concept was a gorgeous car that could've went into production without being altered that much to meet safety/crash ratings.

and instead they dangled a carrot in front of us and replaced it with when reached for it. there was no reason why it had to come to market looking like a Hyundai Jetta.

Colin

There's a lot more to it than crash and safety ratings. You still have to be able to mass produce the car. This means that your dies and tooling need to be able to stamp the sheet metal and have it release from the mold properly. The sharper the creases, the thinner than metal gets at the bending point. This makes stamping many "show cars" difficult if not impossible on a mass production basis

F23A4

I saw on yesterday at Ray Catena Infiniti in Bridgewater, NJ and they are pretty ugly. That said, the mag reviews are very positive with a couple putting it up on pedestel as one of the best all around luxury SUVs in production.

But I'll bet on one thing: The quality of the 2G QX shouldn't be as bad as the first seeing as the new one is now based off the Nissan Patrol and is produced in Japan (as opposed to the Armada being produced in Canton, Mississippi).

F23A4

I have this feeling that the CR-Z will appeal to the green crowd of Prius buyers who want something ostensibly sportier (if not actually sportier), with the idea being to stand out as a tree hugger even moreso.

Still waiting for an AV6h within the 8G lineup.

Legend2TL

Yep, and another factor is the sharp bend radius cause alot more distortion in the metal crystal structure causing stress cracks. Even bends are too sharp they result in weaker structures.

pttl

Then why show us a concept, knowing full well, that they can't produce the car? The public will ultimately be disappointed and the car will sell like

biker

Because the production line doesn't get a say in the design. Produce-ability is an afterthought. A lot of the changes in concept to production are in the front and rear fascias that don't have the limitations of metal. It's not that the concept can't be produced, it's probably just too expensive to do so.