Acura: TLX News
08-18-2008, 07:12 PM
#4721
6G TLX-S
Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
What happened to the infamous Dr. Evil transmissions for the 2G TL/CL?
08-19-2008, 12:28 AM
#4722
Senior Moderator
Wow, just saw the pics on page 6...ew. 
08-19-2008, 01:31 AM
#4723
Chloe @ 17mo
Originally Posted by iforyou
hmm..it has been doing that for years now actually..couple times a week or so....I mean sometimes I experience that a few times week, sometimes, not even once in a month. Most of the time it happens when I'm going at 60km/h or so in 5th gear, not giving too much gas. It feels like it wants to downshift to 4th but it doesn't.
08-20-2008, 11:31 AM
#4724
The sizzle in the Steak
Well, even the new AZ can't make the TL look better. 
08-20-2008, 12:21 PM
#4726
Suzuka Master
08-21-2008, 12:09 AM
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What happened to the infamous Dr. Evil transmissions for the 2G TL/CL?
. Infamous? I doubt.Back to this POS... Had I look for the next car I would've jumped to a new G35 (G37?) sedan in the heartbeat.
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08-21-2008, 01:00 AM
#4729
My first Avatar....
The TL has THE WORST grille/front end of ALL the Acura Line.
I guess my 06 will really be my last Acura.
I guess my 06 will really be my last Acura.
08-21-2008, 03:06 PM
#4730
I drive a Subata.
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There is nothing more to talk about this new TL.....
08-21-2008, 03:07 PM
#4731
I spend 2 much time here
08-21-2008, 05:57 PM
#4733
I'm Down Right Fierce!
08-21-2008, 07:24 PM
#4734
Safety Car
I hated the exterior in the beginning, but it's slowly growing on me. I mean, it'll grow on people more and more as time goes. What's under the hood and its performance should be highlighted. Yes, it's not stunning, but it's not like the new TL will be a crap car. I bet sales number will show and everything will just flow like how the new TSX is doing now.
It's just below our expectations IMO
It's just below our expectations IMO
08-21-2008, 08:28 PM
#4735
I drive a Subata.
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^ Yeah. Frankly, I'm not worried about the sales figure at all. It's gonna sell well. I mean it's a good car. Just a little bit awkward looking for us, car enthusiasts.
The exterior has grown on me already. I like it.
The exterior has grown on me already. I like it.
08-21-2008, 09:16 PM
#4736
Team Owner
so now it is official that the only edge TL has over G35 is gone. MPG.
18/24. i can get better mpg in my g37.
Dont bring up fuel efficiency anymore when u guys compare G35 and the new TL. They are in the same shit.
18/24. i can get better mpg in my g37.
Dont bring up fuel efficiency anymore when u guys compare G35 and the new TL. They are in the same shit.
08-21-2008, 09:39 PM
#4737
I drive a Subata.
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^ I don't know what you mean by the "only edge" but it was funny anyways.
08-22-2008, 01:18 AM
#4739
Honda Fanboy
BTW, the TL SH-AWD gets better mileage than even the auto RWD G35.
08-22-2008, 01:23 AM
#4740
I drive a Subata.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Tsuchiya tested them on the racetrack huh?
08-22-2008, 06:34 AM
#4741
Safety Car
Reviving Acura
Honda Hoping TL Can Revive Acura
Sales of luxury nameplate have dropped since last redesign in 2004
By Dan Gearino
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
Specifications for the new Acura TL:
MARYSVILLE, Ohio -- The redesigned Acura TL has a smile on its face.
Or at least the chrome across the grille looks a lot like a smile, or maybe even a smirk.
Honda of America hopes the Ohio-built sedan can help breathe new life into its luxury brand.
The fourth-generation TL had its coming-out party yesterday at the Honda assembly plant in Marysville, about five weeks before customers can buy one. The new version is larger, more powerful and looks different from its predecessor inside and out.
The front grille, with the chrome and the smilelike shape spread across the negative space, is a signature of design changes across the Acura line.
The TL is also notable for its rear, which is higher and more prominent than the demure hindquarters of its predecessor.
"We know to be a successful brand, it has to be distinctive and stand out," said Mat Hargett, chief engineer for the redesign at Honda's Ohio research and development center.
The TL has been the mainstay of the Acura line since the model was introduced in 1999. Its numbers have slipped this year, with 27,642 TL models sold through July, down 23 percent from the same period last year.
The sluggish sales follow two years of declines in annual sales. A Honda spokesman said the drop is largely because so much time has passed since the previous redesign in the 2004 model year.
The brand has deeper problems, said Aaron Bragman, a Detroit-based automotive analyst for Global Insight.
"For the Acura brand, it's been a bit of a struggle. They're still trying to define what Acura is," he said.
Acura has earned a reputation for impeccable engineering but uninspired styling, he said, unlike the design successes of two other Japanese luxury brands, Lexus and Infiniti, which are owned by Toyota and Nissan, respectively.
Bragman's first impression of the new TL is that it is clearly more distinctive, but it might be a little over the top for some customers.
The retail price will range from $34,000 to $42,000, nearly 10 percent more than the previous TL.
The standard model has a 3.5-liter, 280-horsepower V-6 engine. An all-wheel-drive version has a 3.7-liter, 305-horsepower V-6.
Both versions have a five-speed automatic transmission. A manual transmission is not available.
Acura represents a small share of Honda's overall business. There have been about nine times more Honda Accords sold this year than Acura TLs.
The Marysville plant is the exclusive assembly plant for the TL, with the engines and transmissions coming from Honda plants in Anna and Russells Point.
Tom Pischel, a senior engineer at the Marysville plant, said building the new TL involved many technical challenges. He pointed to a narrow metal rectangle above each headlight, a detail so small that many customers might not notice it, but one that was handled in a way that the plant had never done before.
Honda's goal is to sell 70,000 of the model in the United States next year, which would be a return to the 2006 level, and a major rebound from the current numbers. The TL also will be exported to China.
Pischel said Honda employees, from the designers down to the assembly line, feel like they have a personal stake in the vehicle's success.
"We all know this is critical for Acura," he said.
dgearino@dispatch.com
Sales of luxury nameplate have dropped since last redesign in 2004
By Dan Gearino
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
Specifications for the new Acura TL:
- Engine type: 3.5-liter V-6
- Horsepower: 280
- Wheelbase: 109.3 inches
- Length: 195.3 inches
- Width: 74.0 inches
- Weight: 3,708 pounds
- Fuel: premium unleaded
- Fuel tank: 18.5 gallons
- EPA mileage: 18 mpg city/26 mpg highway
- Transmission: Five-speed automatic
- Braking system: dual-diagonal, power-assisted, four-wheel disc brakes with anti-lock braking system, electronic brake distribution and brake assist
MARYSVILLE, Ohio -- The redesigned Acura TL has a smile on its face.
Or at least the chrome across the grille looks a lot like a smile, or maybe even a smirk.
Honda of America hopes the Ohio-built sedan can help breathe new life into its luxury brand.
The fourth-generation TL had its coming-out party yesterday at the Honda assembly plant in Marysville, about five weeks before customers can buy one. The new version is larger, more powerful and looks different from its predecessor inside and out.
The front grille, with the chrome and the smilelike shape spread across the negative space, is a signature of design changes across the Acura line.
The TL is also notable for its rear, which is higher and more prominent than the demure hindquarters of its predecessor.
"We know to be a successful brand, it has to be distinctive and stand out," said Mat Hargett, chief engineer for the redesign at Honda's Ohio research and development center.
The TL has been the mainstay of the Acura line since the model was introduced in 1999. Its numbers have slipped this year, with 27,642 TL models sold through July, down 23 percent from the same period last year.
The sluggish sales follow two years of declines in annual sales. A Honda spokesman said the drop is largely because so much time has passed since the previous redesign in the 2004 model year.
The brand has deeper problems, said Aaron Bragman, a Detroit-based automotive analyst for Global Insight.
"For the Acura brand, it's been a bit of a struggle. They're still trying to define what Acura is," he said.
Acura has earned a reputation for impeccable engineering but uninspired styling, he said, unlike the design successes of two other Japanese luxury brands, Lexus and Infiniti, which are owned by Toyota and Nissan, respectively.
Bragman's first impression of the new TL is that it is clearly more distinctive, but it might be a little over the top for some customers.
The retail price will range from $34,000 to $42,000, nearly 10 percent more than the previous TL.
The standard model has a 3.5-liter, 280-horsepower V-6 engine. An all-wheel-drive version has a 3.7-liter, 305-horsepower V-6.
Both versions have a five-speed automatic transmission. A manual transmission is not available.
Acura represents a small share of Honda's overall business. There have been about nine times more Honda Accords sold this year than Acura TLs.
The Marysville plant is the exclusive assembly plant for the TL, with the engines and transmissions coming from Honda plants in Anna and Russells Point.
Tom Pischel, a senior engineer at the Marysville plant, said building the new TL involved many technical challenges. He pointed to a narrow metal rectangle above each headlight, a detail so small that many customers might not notice it, but one that was handled in a way that the plant had never done before.
Honda's goal is to sell 70,000 of the model in the United States next year, which would be a return to the 2006 level, and a major rebound from the current numbers. The TL also will be exported to China.
Pischel said Honda employees, from the designers down to the assembly line, feel like they have a personal stake in the vehicle's success.
"We all know this is critical for Acura," he said.
dgearino@dispatch.com
08-22-2008, 01:42 PM
#4745
I drive a Subata.
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ban after being ridiculed
08-22-2008, 01:59 PM
#4746
The sizzle in the Steak
08-22-2008, 02:44 PM
#4747
I drive a Subata.
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^ 
that didn't make you chuckle?
that didn't make you chuckle?
08-22-2008, 03:01 PM
#4748
The sizzle in the Steak
08-22-2008, 03:06 PM
#4749
Team Owner
You'd also have to exclude better build quality, better materials, better handling, better riding, quieter interior... in fact, seems like the only thing the G35 has on the new TL is looks, and even that is subjective.
BTW, the TL SH-AWD gets better mileage than even the auto RWD G35.
BTW, the TL SH-AWD gets better mileage than even the auto RWD G35.
Better material? why? the New TL has more expensive "plastic"?
Better handling and quieter interior? How do you know? you been in one already?
FWD based AWD < RWD.
08-22-2008, 03:07 PM
#4750
Senior Moderator
Man...I think each time I re-look at this horrible mess of a car, a robot in my collection breaks.
08-22-2008, 03:08 PM
#4751
Senior Moderator
WHAT WERE THE ACURA/HONDA DESIGNERS THINKING...?!??!??? 
08-22-2008, 03:23 PM
#4752
I drive a Subata.
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i get it
08-22-2008, 03:24 PM
#4753
I drive a Subata.
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08-22-2008, 03:36 PM
#4755
Senior Moderator
08-22-2008, 03:37 PM
#4756
Senior Moderator
I think I figured it out: Honda/Acura handed the car designs to the Hasbro/Michael Bay design team... 
08-22-2008, 04:23 PM
#4757
The sizzle in the Steak
08-22-2008, 04:52 PM
#4758
Senior Moderator
Meh, I really dont think its THAT bad. Even the new TSX looks good on the road. IMO
08-22-2008, 05:05 PM
#4759
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^ I agree 100%. I saw a Vortex Blue Pearl TSX on the road and I thought it looked great, even with the grill.
The new TL isn't as bad as some of you guys make it out to be, It's growing on me IMO.
Also it seems to be getting pretty damn good reviews aside from the controversial styling.
The new TL isn't as bad as some of you guys make it out to be, It's growing on me IMO.
Also it seems to be getting pretty damn good reviews aside from the controversial styling.
08-22-2008, 06:42 PM
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Yup, Honda/Acura does have better build quality than Nissan/Infiniti, Nissan pretty much admitted itself, and numbers can be found according to JD power:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=683222
You can find the chart here:
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings...e-#page-anchor
Yup, made in Japan is > made in ohio, for Honda/Acura, ie, RL is much better built than TL.
Not sure about quieter, according to C&D, they are about the same (within 1 or 2db).
Handling, well, 2 seconds on a road course is massive, especially since the TL is slower on the straight.