according to wikipedia
3G: "Developed mainly in the United States by a team led by Erik Berkman with bodywork by American Honda designer Jon Ikeda"

 

Built to break You truly are a clown.

 

 

Exactly. And sure, some of you guys would take it if the price is right.... but so far it looks like the price is going to be upwards of $40k. It doesn't matter how nice the interior is, or even how it drives.... even a RWD V8 can't save that car's styling.



There simply isn't anything that's uglier than the 4G TL in that price bracket. Honestly.... the only thing that tops the 4G TL in heave factor is the Pontiac Aztek.

I wouldn't even take the 4G TL for $25k new because simply put, I wouldn't be caught dead in one. I mean, I actually like the new TSX aside from the grill, but at least on the TSX the lines flow together well enough to the point that an aftermarket grill would look good. But this TL..... even with an aftermarket grill, none of the lines would be right. It even makes the RL facelift's front end look good!

The overall profile of the car is nice (except the fender bulges) but that's the only real positive thing I have to say about the exterior, aside from the headlights, which if you look closely, have subtle differences from the 3G headlights.

The trunk is almost as ugly as the grill, the two flanking inlets on the front look awkward with the combo of the driving lights + fogs, the terrible paint matching on the rear bumper/trunk, the tail lights themselves don't compliment anything on the car, and those silly looking wedge-shaped reflectors on the rear bumper do nothing as far as aesthetics go.

Don't get me wrong, because I don't agree with MT at all, but the Genesis sedan looks tens of thousands better than 4G TL but for thousands less, end of story.

 

WTF is that guy talking about? Seriously, he's on crack, especially with what he's saying and if he honestly thinks that the new TL looks good.

Precision machined technology?

Describing design language with "billet" and "shear"?

Sensual/dynamic emotion? The only human sense that the new TL triggers in me is the gag reflex. I really can't wait to see it in person..... if I don't giggle like a little girl on first sight, I'll be surprised.



Acura TL 1996-2008

you once held a place dear to my heart, once made my pants tight with excitement, and now you're just an aged, overweight pig with a face that could make blind children cry. I recently found someone younger, funner and easier to throw around and I won't be back. Oh, and your younger sister, the TSX, I had a fling with her too. She's way better looking... all she needs is a nose job, but I'm afraid its too late for you.

 

Guess what people at ClubLexus responded....






lol.


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You would think after the enormous success of the 3G TL, they would let these guys come back and design the 4G TL. Bonehead move by Honda/Acura.

 

Too much copied by MAZDA vehicles such that people are seeing the cheap brand Mazda's as the "luxury" brand Acura's.

 

^ not to mention it was boring. Like how Acura's designs were. They just can't win. If it's not bland, it's ugly.

This car isn't as bad to look at as people make it seem.

 

i checked out these TL pics in the TL section, the side profile looks alright and fine with me until you see the front wheel well with the fender flares it ruins that straight line and looks odd.

 

The person who posted that was 1SICKLEX. Enough said.

I've had pieces of shit floating in my toilet that got more respect than that douche.

 

I keep coming in here hoping the car was joke from Acura and they will be releasing pictures of the real one shortly.

 

Nope, you guys would still b!tch if the Genesis was an Acura. You’d be saying it’s a rip off car design from MB, BMW, etc. I guess since it’s a Hyundai it gets a pass.

The Genesis is okay but it’s still a Hyundai. If luxury is all about being exclusive and being noticed, to some, why buy a Hyundai.

BTW, the first thread was closed because members cluttered it with the same old posts about how much they hate the new TL. I see this thread going down the same route. You don’t like, cool. You don’t have to tell us you don’t like everyday or with every new picture. You have made your point. Thanks.

 

That's a descent looking side view. The car doesn't look fat as it seemed to be. You are right about the front fender well. It would've looked 5% better if the line goes straight above the fender well. The car looks a little too long though, not good. If you look at the car in different angle, it'll look ugly. It looks like the rear end of the car got chopped off..

 

no bad confrontation between the Kia Opirus.. sorry, I mean the Genesis and the TL 4GN

 

the steering wheel in the Genesis looks so ugly big and cheap...

 

the interior on the genesis looks

 

I just can't get over how horibly mismatched the paint is in these pictures between the rear fender and the rest of the body... It's so god damn noticable!

 

yep, the front console is a funny imitation of the Merc S one...

 

Amen

 

Actually, it is.

Acura is trying to place themselves up there with BMW and Lexus. This design is better fit for an Accord if that. When I think Lexus I think Luxury, when I see this, I run screaming. A $40,000+ car that is supposed to be a model of luxury shouldn't have to 'grow' on you.

 

Holy front overhang. That's the first side profile pic I've seen and I don't like what I'm seeing.

And I guess I'm still one of the few that likes the view from the rear.

 

As for the interior, the color of the leather, dash, and door panels make a lot of difference. You took the ugly color on the Genesis interior and nicer color on the Acura, which isn't a fair comparison. Also, even more importantly, wait till you get in the Acura TL and touch the interior, dash, leather. The cheapness will be noticed. Acura saved by using cheap parts to manufacture the cars. It has been that way since the 2nd and 3rd gen TL. The same applies to the 4th gen. Also, I am 10,000% sure the 4th gen are being built in America.





This is what I mean... thanks for posting the pic. If you look at the hood piece it's virtually... FLAT. There is no design to it. If you look at the Genesis hood it's got some shape! The hood itself looks much better than that ugly looking flat piece.




Once again, thanks for posting the pic. You have shown us how ugly the rear end is. I think I'm going to the restroom and throw up... I'm feeling sick now.

 

alright we get the damn point that you dont like the car.. yeeeesh..

 

it's growing on me already

- i like the extra speakers for the rear passenger
- does seem like only SH-AWD will have the start button as i could not find the start button on the picture for some of the interior pics (correct me if i'm wrong)
- like the wheels on SH-AWD version as well (not feeling the basic model wheels....)
- hopefully it looks much much much much much much better when i see it in person

 

Yup, SH-AWD models get the start button, rear spoiler and quad tailpipes.
Contrary to Edmunds report, the rear spoiler is available for the base model too cause I saw the one pic with only dual tailpipes and a spoiler, so that's not exclusive to the SH-AWD model.

 

its going to be the same story of honda and acura of the past. Everyone is going to bitch about how its the worst looking car in the world. Then it comes out and everything is good again. People said the 3G TL was ugly when it first debut but now its considered one of the best looking cars around. Same goes with the current TSX, MDX, Accord, CRV, Civic. Give it some time before you bash on the car.

 

no, you get the start button if you get the technology package. IIRC.

 

[QUOTE=Manual Transmission]As for the interior, the color of the leather, dash, and door panels make a lot of difference. You took the ugly color on the Genesis interior and nicer color on the Acura, which isn't a fair comparison.

these are better ones...

 

grown on me already I'm pretty sure it's just me though.

 

That redish colored leather

 

Well, BMW is successful not because of Bangle, they are successful in spite of Bangle. BMW sells great sports sedans and the designs of E46, E39, E38 are very very respected. Journalists and BMW owners call them classics. Not true with the current lineup.

What cars are hallmarks of Bangle? The most well known - 7 series, Z4. They are terrible designs. 7 series doesn't do well against the S class, and even LS sells way better. People still buy Z4 because it drives really well. X3 is also a terrible design. The exception is the current 5 series I think. It's the most moderate of the Bangle design.

See for yourself - check out the video o Autoblog about Art Osborn. Just from that short interview, that's not the kind of person I want to have as the chief designer.

By the way, why are we comparing to the Genesis so much? You should compare the TL to the new Audi A4.

 

So I guess we wait for the MMC where Acura decides to axe the grill in it's current implementation?

I'm trying so hard to like this car. I do like the interior, side profile, and wheels (on SH-AWD version) but the front and rear are just too busy. I didn't like the new TSX anymore when I saw it in person, hope the same is not true for the TL.

 

New A4 looks great, imo.

 

Care to explain why elements of Bangle's designs are "copied" on so many other mfg's. vehicles?

 

I cant get over the rear end....

 

Making assumptions has created an ass out of you. We are talking about the Acura TL here. If you want to talk about cheapened interiors, just look at what Lexus did with the latest IS with the cheap plastics galore interior. As if first IS interior wasn't bad enough. If you want to give detailed opinions about a car, you should first make sure that your experience with the car exceeds your computer monitor. Besides, shouldn't you be out rowing through the gears of your manual-transmission IS350?


Now THAT is quality!

From Car and Drivers review of the 2009 Acura TL:

"Material qualities are first-rate, and this car feels far more upscale than the previous one did."

 

Yeah that aluminum trim is definitely not cheap, otherwise everyone would be using it. Acura really went out on a limb this time to ensure the quality is top notch.

 

VTECbabe,

The IS350 is nothing like any other competitor brand cars I have checked out. I know my previous '06 TL (3rd gen 6MT) felt cheap as hell, everywhere in the interior! from dashboard, to the door panel, the foot step when you open the door, the center console, the gauges, everything felt cheap. Too much of cheap plastics used on this. Also the gap between the dash and the door panel in the inside of the car is HUGE! It's almost enough to stick my finger in it.. Holly crap i almost farted... seriously. Even the leather seats are kind of cheap, nothing like high quality stuff I have seen. The '07~'08 G35 was hardly better too. It had about the same leather feel. As for the dash and door panel..... okay. The gaps didn't seem as bad. Overall, it felt better quality than that of the TL. TL is made in America. G35 is made in awesome island called Japan. After I sat in the IS350 and test drove I was like holly crap....... HUGE jump in interior quality! This is no joke. Why the hell do you think I decided to get the IS350. I couldn't turn down the premium build quality this car has. The seats are ultra premium, soft and smooth like baby skin. Less plastics are used on the Lexus, plus the plastic itself are made of very high quality stuff. Also even MORE importantly, the gaps are VERY small between the door panel and the dash. it is so tight and even. Talk about some serious precision. And of course... it's fast as hell. I have already badly murdered the late model Dodge Charger HEMI R/T. Left him in the dust and he felt so embarassed he stay way back and didn't get near me again. Don't even dare.... I was like laughin my ass off....... oh man.... *FART*.

As for the 4th gen TL, true, I haven't sat in it. So I can't say for sure the interior build quality is as bad as the previous TL. But the thing is, Acura used cheap parts to save cost. The red color seats may bring you guys attention but wait till you get in one. I would surely come and check it out once they hit my local Acura dealer. I will then know for sure how the "quality" is.



lolz....