Acura: TLX News
08-13-2008, 02:52 PM
#4641
Drifting
Manual Transmission, you gotta get over the fact of how impressed you are with youself that you have an IS... nice car, but there's no need to exaggerate and brag as much as you do. We get it, you drive an IS, congrats... 
And "lolz" = :ghey:
And "lolz" = :ghey:
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08-13-2008, 02:54 PM
#4642
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
VTECbabe,
The IS350 is nothing like any other competitor brand cars I have checked out. I know my previous '06 TL (3rd gen 6MT) felt cheap as hell, everywhere in the interior! from dashboard, to the door panel, the foot step when you open the door, the center console, the gauges, everything felt cheap. Too much of cheap plastics used on this. Also the gap between the dash and the door panel in the inside of the car is HUGE! It's almost enough to stick my finger in it.. Holly crap i almost farted... seriously. Even the leather seats are kind of cheap, nothing like high quality stuff I have seen. The '07~'08 G35 was hardly better too. It had about the same leather feel. As for the dash and door panel..... okay. The gaps didn't seem as bad. Overall, it felt better quality than that of the TL. TL is made in America. G35 is made in awesome island called Japan. After I sat in the IS350 and test drove I was like holly crap....... HUGE jump in interior quality! This is no joke. Why the hell do you think I decided to get the IS350. I couldn't turn down the premium build quality this car has. The seats are ultra premium, soft and smooth like baby skin. Less plastics are used on the Lexus, plus the plastic itself are made of very high quality stuff. Also even MORE importantly, the gaps are VERY small between the door panel and the dash. it is so tight and even. Talk about some serious precision. And of course... it's fast as hell. I have already badly murdered the late model Dodge Charger HEMI R/T. Left him in the dust and he felt so embarassed he stay way back and didn't get near me again. Don't even dare.... I was like laughin my ass off
....... oh man.... *FART*.
As for the 4th gen TL, true, I haven't sat in it. So I can't say for sure the interior build quality is as bad as the previous TL. But the thing is, Acura used cheap parts to save cost. The red color seats may bring you guys attention but wait till you get in one. I would surely come and check it out once they hit my local Acura dealer.
I will then know for sure how the "quality" is.
lolz....
The IS350 is nothing like any other competitor brand cars I have checked out. I know my previous '06 TL (3rd gen 6MT) felt cheap as hell, everywhere in the interior! from dashboard, to the door panel, the foot step when you open the door, the center console, the gauges, everything felt cheap. Too much of cheap plastics used on this. Also the gap between the dash and the door panel in the inside of the car is HUGE! It's almost enough to stick my finger in it.. Holly crap i almost farted... seriously. Even the leather seats are kind of cheap, nothing like high quality stuff I have seen. The '07~'08 G35 was hardly better too. It had about the same leather feel. As for the dash and door panel..... okay. The gaps didn't seem as bad. Overall, it felt better quality than that of the TL. TL is made in America. G35 is made in awesome island called Japan. After I sat in the IS350 and test drove I was like holly crap....... HUGE jump in interior quality! This is no joke. Why the hell do you think I decided to get the IS350. I couldn't turn down the premium build quality this car has. The seats are ultra premium, soft and smooth like baby skin. Less plastics are used on the Lexus, plus the plastic itself are made of very high quality stuff. Also even MORE importantly, the gaps are VERY small between the door panel and the dash. it is so tight and even. Talk about some serious precision. And of course... it's fast as hell. I have already badly murdered the late model Dodge Charger HEMI R/T. Left him in the dust and he felt so embarassed he stay way back and didn't get near me again. Don't even dare.... I was like laughin my ass off
....... oh man.... *FART*. As for the 4th gen TL, true, I haven't sat in it. So I can't say for sure the interior build quality is as bad as the previous TL. But the thing is, Acura used cheap parts to save cost. The red color seats may bring you guys attention but wait till you get in one. I would surely come and check it out once they hit my local Acura dealer.
I will then know for sure how the "quality" is. lolz....
p.s.
Who the hell still says 'lolz' except for 13 year-old boys?
08-13-2008, 03:06 PM
#4643
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
VTECbabe,
The IS350 is nothing like any other competitor brand cars I have checked out. I know my previous '06 TL (3rd gen 6MT) felt cheap as hell, everywhere in the interior! from dashboard, to the door panel, the foot step when you open the door, the center console, the gauges, everything felt cheap. Too much of cheap plastics used on this. Also the gap between the dash and the door panel in the inside of the car is HUGE! It's almost enough to stick my finger in it.. Holly crap i almost farted... seriously. Even the leather seats are kind of cheap, nothing like high quality stuff I have seen. The '07~'08 G35 was hardly better too. It had about the same leather feel. As for the dash and door panel..... okay. The gaps didn't seem as bad. Overall, it felt better quality than that of the TL. TL is made in America. G35 is made in awesome island called Japan. After I sat in the IS350 and test drove I was like holly crap....... HUGE jump in interior quality! This is no joke. Why the hell do you think I decided to get the IS350. I couldn't turn down the premium build quality this car has. The seats are ultra premium, soft and smooth like baby skin. Less plastics are used on the Lexus, plus the plastic itself are made of very high quality stuff. Also even MORE importantly, the gaps are VERY small between the door panel and the dash. it is so tight and even. Talk about some serious precision. And of course... it's fast as hell. I have already badly murdered the late model Dodge Charger HEMI R/T. Left him in the dust and he felt so embarassed he stay way back and didn't get near me again. Don't even dare.... I was like laughin my ass off....... oh man.... *FART*.
As for the 4th gen TL, true, I haven't sat in it. So I can't say for sure the interior build quality is as bad as the previous TL. But the thing is, Acura used cheap parts to save cost. The red color seats may bring you guys attention but wait till you get in one. I would surely come and check it out once they hit my local Acura dealer. I will then know for sure how the "quality" is.
lolz....
The IS350 is nothing like any other competitor brand cars I have checked out. I know my previous '06 TL (3rd gen 6MT) felt cheap as hell, everywhere in the interior! from dashboard, to the door panel, the foot step when you open the door, the center console, the gauges, everything felt cheap. Too much of cheap plastics used on this. Also the gap between the dash and the door panel in the inside of the car is HUGE! It's almost enough to stick my finger in it.. Holly crap i almost farted... seriously. Even the leather seats are kind of cheap, nothing like high quality stuff I have seen. The '07~'08 G35 was hardly better too. It had about the same leather feel. As for the dash and door panel..... okay. The gaps didn't seem as bad. Overall, it felt better quality than that of the TL. TL is made in America. G35 is made in awesome island called Japan. After I sat in the IS350 and test drove I was like holly crap....... HUGE jump in interior quality! This is no joke. Why the hell do you think I decided to get the IS350. I couldn't turn down the premium build quality this car has. The seats are ultra premium, soft and smooth like baby skin. Less plastics are used on the Lexus, plus the plastic itself are made of very high quality stuff. Also even MORE importantly, the gaps are VERY small between the door panel and the dash. it is so tight and even. Talk about some serious precision. And of course... it's fast as hell. I have already badly murdered the late model Dodge Charger HEMI R/T. Left him in the dust and he felt so embarassed he stay way back and didn't get near me again. Don't even dare.... I was like laughin my ass off
....... oh man.... *FART*. As for the 4th gen TL, true, I haven't sat in it. So I can't say for sure the interior build quality is as bad as the previous TL. But the thing is, Acura used cheap parts to save cost. The red color seats may bring you guys attention but wait till you get in one. I would surely come and check it out once they hit my local Acura dealer.
I will then know for sure how the "quality" is. lolz....
He is a tool.
08-13-2008, 03:15 PM
#4644
fap fap fap
Originally Posted by phile
Yeah that aluminum trim is definitely not cheap, otherwise everyone would be using it. Acura really went out on a limb this time to ensure the quality is top notch.
is it official that its real aluminum? hard to tell from the pix
08-13-2008, 03:24 PM
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When do the TL's hit showrooms?
How can Cadillac muster the CTS AWD with 304 hp and get 18/26, while the SH-AWD TL gets only 17/24 mpg rating with just 1 more hp at 305hp? I wonder if the TL, both the FWD and SH-AWD versions have the cylinder deactivation like the V6 Accords have.
How can Cadillac muster the CTS AWD with 304 hp and get 18/26, while the SH-AWD TL gets only 17/24 mpg rating with just 1 more hp at 305hp? I wonder if the TL, both the FWD and SH-AWD versions have the cylinder deactivation like the V6 Accords have.
08-13-2008, 03:28 PM
#4647
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Originally Posted by Mokos23
How can Cadillac muster the CTS AWD with 304 hp and get 18/26, while the SH-AWD TL gets only 17/24 mpg rating with just 1 more hp at 305hp?
GM today announced all their car's equipped with the 2.4L engine now get the 6AT as opposed to the 4AT. Resulting in increases of about 3MPG on the HWY.
And the 09 Lamda triplets (Enclave, Acadia and Outlook) get about 1 or 2 MPG improvement simply because of the addition of direct injection. Also resulting in about 15 more HP.
Honda
I wonder if the TL, both the FWD and SH-AWD versions have the cylinder deactivation like the V6 Accords have.
08-13-2008, 03:38 PM
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Simple, J series is old, the CTS’s engine is newer. The 1g Honda stream used DI but got worse mileage and power thant he 2G stream without DI. DI is great, if only Honda can make good use of it.
08-13-2008, 03:40 PM
#4649
Originally Posted by Infamous425
is it official that its real aluminum? hard to tell from the pix
08-13-2008, 03:41 PM
#4650
6G TLX-S
Originally Posted by Mokos23
When do the TL's hit showrooms?
How can Cadillac muster the CTS AWD with 304 hp and get 18/26, while the SH-AWD TL gets only 17/24 mpg rating with just 1 more hp at 305hp? I wonder if the TL, both the FWD and SH-AWD versions have the cylinder deactivation like the V6 Accords have.
How can Cadillac muster the CTS AWD with 304 hp and get 18/26, while the SH-AWD TL gets only 17/24 mpg rating with just 1 more hp at 305hp? I wonder if the TL, both the FWD and SH-AWD versions have the cylinder deactivation like the V6 Accords have.
I believe Honda thinks that wealthy buyers who are willing to pay big premium buying Acura products wouldn't care about fuel economy. They only want performance.
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08-13-2008, 03:44 PM
#4651
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by dom
6 speeds and Direct Injection.
GM today announced all their car's equipped with the 2.4L engine now get the 6AT as opposed to the 4AT. Resulting in increases of about 3MPG on the HWY.
And the 09 Lamda triplets (Enclave, Acadia and Outlook) get about 1 or 2 MPG improvement simply because of the addition of direct injection. Also resulting in about 15 more HP.
Honda
GM today announced all their car's equipped with the 2.4L engine now get the 6AT as opposed to the 4AT. Resulting in increases of about 3MPG on the HWY.
And the 09 Lamda triplets (Enclave, Acadia and Outlook) get about 1 or 2 MPG improvement simply because of the addition of direct injection. Also resulting in about 15 more HP.
Honda
GM engine & tranny tech > Honda
08-13-2008, 03:54 PM
#4654
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by dom
Fixed.
Those EcoBoost engines sound promising as well.
Those EcoBoost engines sound promising as well.
08-13-2008, 04:14 PM
#4655
Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
VTECbabe,
The IS350 is nothing like any other competitor brand cars I have checked out. HUGE jump in interior quality! This is no joke. Why the hell do you think I decided to get the IS350. I couldn't turn down the premium build quality this car has. The seats are ultra premium, soft and smooth like baby skin.
The IS350 is nothing like any other competitor brand cars I have checked out. HUGE jump in interior quality! This is no joke. Why the hell do you think I decided to get the IS350. I couldn't turn down the premium build quality this car has. The seats are ultra premium, soft and smooth like baby skin.
When I sat the first time in a IS I was shocked of the difference in quality with my TL 05...
08-13-2008, 04:17 PM
#4656
fap fap fap
Originally Posted by Mokos23
I wonder if the TL, both the FWD and SH-AWD versions have the cylinder deactivation like the V6 Accords have.
08-13-2008, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
i hope it doesnt have VCM because it saps power from the v6
08-13-2008, 05:05 PM
#4658
6G TLX-S
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
It appears....
GM engine & tranny tech > Honda
GM engine & tranny tech > Honda
08-13-2008, 05:24 PM
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Guys, I mentioned the Lexus because VTECBabe asked for it. So I gave it. I'm not the one who started on Lexus first.
And dom, can't you be a little nicer? Why do you have to be so mean to me? I didn't do anything to you.
Now that post I like.... You are right, the interior is really nice in the IS. I appreciate your honesty. 
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And dom, can't you be a little nicer? Why do you have to be so mean to me? I didn't do anything to you.
Originally Posted by krio
Yes, the quality of the last Lexuses is really amazing.
When I sat the first time in a IS I was shocked of the difference in quality with my TL 05...
When I sat the first time in a IS I was shocked of the difference in quality with my TL 05...
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08-13-2008, 05:39 PM
#4660
Honda Fanboy
Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
Guys, I mentioned the Lexus because VTECBabe asked for it. So I gave it. I'm not the one who started on Lexus first.
And dom, can't you be a little nicer? Why do you have to be so mean to me? I didn't do anything to you.
Now that post I like.... You are right, the interior is really nice in the IS. I appreciate your honesty.
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And dom, can't you be a little nicer? Why do you have to be so mean to me? I didn't do anything to you.
Now that post I like.... You are right, the interior is really nice in the IS. I appreciate your honesty.
.
BTW, do you always call other guys BABE? That might be something you want to keep reserved to yourself.
08-13-2008, 05:42 PM
#4661
The sizzle in the Steak
Take the Lexus talk to a Lexus thread.
Keep this
out of the TL thread.
Keep this
out of the TL thread.
08-13-2008, 06:04 PM
#4662
Pro
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Care to explain why elements of Bangle's designs are "copied" on so many other mfg's. vehicles?
Bangle's design calls more attention to the design language (almost too self conscious) and various individual aspects of the vehicle, but as a whole the vehicle doesn't portray the sense of agility and speed as well as the past ones.
Anyway, BMWs are great because of the drivetrain and chassis.
As such a big vehicle, I'm not such how good the TL will be on the track. It will surely run comfortably on the highway, with a bit number steering and more tech gadgets to play with.
08-13-2008, 06:24 PM
#4663
how handsome I am
Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
VTECbabe,
The IS350 is nothing like any other competitor brand cars I have checked out. I know my previous '06 TL (3rd gen 6MT) felt cheap as hell, everywhere in the interior! from dashboard, to the door panel, the foot step when you open the door, the center console, the gauges, everything felt cheap. Too much of cheap plastics used on this. Also the gap between the dash and the door panel in the inside of the car is HUGE! It's almost enough to stick my finger in it.. Holly crap i almost farted... seriously. Even the leather seats are kind of cheap, nothing like high quality stuff I have seen. The '07~'08 G35 was hardly better too. It had about the same leather feel. As for the dash and door panel..... okay. The gaps didn't seem as bad. Overall, it felt better quality than that of the TL. TL is made in America. G35 is made in awesome island called Japan. After I sat in the IS350 and test drove I was like holly crap....... HUGE jump in interior quality! This is no joke. Why the hell do you think I decided to get the IS350. I couldn't turn down the premium build quality this car has. The seats are ultra premium, soft and smooth like baby skin. Less plastics are used on the Lexus, plus the plastic itself are made of very high quality stuff. Also even MORE importantly, the gaps are VERY small between the door panel and the dash. it is so tight and even. Talk about some serious precision. And of course... it's fast as hell. I have already badly murdered the late model Dodge Charger HEMI R/T. Left him in the dust and he felt so embarassed he stay way back and didn't get near me again. Don't even dare.... I was like laughin my ass off....... oh man.... *FART*.
As for the 4th gen TL, true, I haven't sat in it. So I can't say for sure the interior build quality is as bad as the previous TL. But the thing is, Acura used cheap parts to save cost. The red color seats may bring you guys attention but wait till you get in one. I would surely come and check it out once they hit my local Acura dealer. I will then know for sure how the "quality" is.
lolz....
The IS350 is nothing like any other competitor brand cars I have checked out. I know my previous '06 TL (3rd gen 6MT) felt cheap as hell, everywhere in the interior! from dashboard, to the door panel, the foot step when you open the door, the center console, the gauges, everything felt cheap. Too much of cheap plastics used on this. Also the gap between the dash and the door panel in the inside of the car is HUGE! It's almost enough to stick my finger in it.. Holly crap i almost farted... seriously. Even the leather seats are kind of cheap, nothing like high quality stuff I have seen. The '07~'08 G35 was hardly better too. It had about the same leather feel. As for the dash and door panel..... okay. The gaps didn't seem as bad. Overall, it felt better quality than that of the TL. TL is made in America. G35 is made in awesome island called Japan. After I sat in the IS350 and test drove I was like holly crap....... HUGE jump in interior quality! This is no joke. Why the hell do you think I decided to get the IS350. I couldn't turn down the premium build quality this car has. The seats are ultra premium, soft and smooth like baby skin. Less plastics are used on the Lexus, plus the plastic itself are made of very high quality stuff. Also even MORE importantly, the gaps are VERY small between the door panel and the dash. it is so tight and even. Talk about some serious precision. And of course... it's fast as hell. I have already badly murdered the late model Dodge Charger HEMI R/T. Left him in the dust and he felt so embarassed he stay way back and didn't get near me again. Don't even dare.... I was like laughin my ass off
....... oh man.... *FART*. As for the 4th gen TL, true, I haven't sat in it. So I can't say for sure the interior build quality is as bad as the previous TL. But the thing is, Acura used cheap parts to save cost. The red color seats may bring you guys attention but wait till you get in one. I would surely come and check it out once they hit my local Acura dealer.
I will then know for sure how the "quality" is. lolz....
And yes, I have an IS250 with lots of lovely gaps here and there. Not to mention the fucking bruises me and my passengers have gotten on our legs and arms trying to get in and out of the damn thing.
btw, anyone mention how ridiculous this new TL's grille is?
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08-13-2008, 06:48 PM
#4664
6G TLX-S
Originally Posted by agranado
btw, anyone mention how ridiculous this new TL's grille is?
Oh yes . . . I don't think you can find an '09 TL thread around here that doesn't already have people bitching about it's look and it's grille.
08-13-2008, 07:33 PM
#4665
Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
It would sell like hot cakes. People will think Acura is doing superb job.
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I was really impressed with the new IS's interior. I like how it had separate tweeters, midbass and subwoofer. Too bad driving it felt soulless.
It has no steering feel whatsoever, and the suspension just feels so isolated.I get more steering feedback/feel from this than the IS:
No matter how nice the IS interior is and how much I'm NOT a fan of FWD, I'd still take a 6MT TL-S over an IS350 anyday. I don't think I personally could stand driving an IS350 everyday. Its a good car, but it bored me to tears when I drove it.
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08-13-2008, 09:28 PM
#4666
how handsome I am
Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
....and if this new TL had a Hyundai Genesis badge on it, you would think Hyundai is doing a marvelous job, and that the styling is great, the build quality is excellent....
I was really impressed with the new IS's interior. I like how it had separate tweeters, midbass and subwoofer. Too bad driving it felt soulless. It has no steering feel whatsoever, and the suspension just feels so isolated.
I get more steering feedback/feel from this than the IS:
No matter how nice the IS interior is and how much I'm NOT a fan of FWD, I'd still take a 6MT TL-S over an IS350 anyday. I don't think I personally could stand driving an IS350 everyday. Its a good car, but it bored me to tears when I drove it.
I was really impressed with the new IS's interior. I like how it had separate tweeters, midbass and subwoofer. Too bad driving it felt soulless.
It has no steering feel whatsoever, and the suspension just feels so isolated.I get more steering feedback/feel from this than the IS:
No matter how nice the IS interior is and how much I'm NOT a fan of FWD, I'd still take a 6MT TL-S over an IS350 anyday. I don't think I personally could stand driving an IS350 everyday. Its a good car, but it bored me to tears when I drove it.
if there is one thing about the IS that I love, is the 13 speaker sound system it comes with. It's lovely.
08-13-2008, 09:36 PM
#4667
What Would Don Draper Do?
Originally Posted by JS + TL
grown on me already 
I'm pretty sure it's just me though.
I'm pretty sure it's just me though.it's still weird though. the rear is strange. the grille is really big. the side profile looks good but the wheels look tiny (but that's expected).
and i'm really liking that reddish/orange interior.
08-14-2008, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by agranado
if there is one thing about the IS that I love, is the 13 speaker sound system it comes with. It's lovely.
That's the feedback I've gotten throughout the forums, I've still yet to demo it myself.
08-14-2008, 02:28 AM
#4669
Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
If you think the stock 13 speaker sound system is crazy, the 14 speaker Mark Levinson will blow your mind.
That's the feedback I've gotten throughout the forums, I've still yet to demo it myself.
That's the feedback I've gotten throughout the forums, I've still yet to demo it myself.
08-14-2008, 01:03 PM
#4670
Originally Posted by Mokos23
When do the TL's hit showrooms?
How can Cadillac muster the CTS AWD with 304 hp and get 18/26, while the SH-AWD TL gets only 17/24 mpg rating with just 1 more hp at 305hp? I wonder if the TL, both the FWD and SH-AWD versions have the cylinder deactivation like the V6 Accords have.
How can Cadillac muster the CTS AWD with 304 hp and get 18/26, while the SH-AWD TL gets only 17/24 mpg rating with just 1 more hp at 305hp? I wonder if the TL, both the FWD and SH-AWD versions have the cylinder deactivation like the V6 Accords have.
08-14-2008, 02:43 PM
#4671
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
it's growing on me too.
it's still weird though. the rear is strange. the grille is really big. the side profile looks good but the wheels look tiny (but that's expected).
and i'm really liking that reddish/orange interior.
it's still weird though. the rear is strange. the grille is really big. the side profile looks good but the wheels look tiny (but that's expected).
and i'm really liking that reddish/orange interior.
08-14-2008, 03:11 PM
#4673
I drive a Subata.
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I really don't know why some people are "bragging" about Lexus in this thread. If they are objectively comparing the two vehicles, then it makes perfect sense. But obviously it's not.
Clearly, bragging about owning IS350 should be done in other IS threads or Lexus forums. :twocents: I'm just sick and tired of hearing that shit in this thread. We are already busy enough talking about how ugly this 4G TL is.
Clearly, bragging about owning IS350 should be done in other IS threads or Lexus forums. :twocents: I'm just sick and tired of hearing that shit in this thread. We are already busy enough talking about how ugly this 4G TL is.
08-14-2008, 03:40 PM
#4674
6G TLX-S
Originally Posted by cheepung
Z06 gets 15/24 with 505hp. I am really impress with what GM can do over the Japanese.
Acura, are you listening ? Is it about time to move away from the 5AT ?
08-14-2008, 03:47 PM
#4675
Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
Acura, are you listening ? Is it about time to move away from the 5AT ?
08-14-2008, 03:47 PM
#4676
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
How about a 4300 lbs 4.6L/380-hp/367-lb-ft V-8 powered LS460, with an 8-speed automatic, that can do 0-60 in 5.4 sec (mfr est), and returns a 19/27 mpg fuel economy ? Now this is impressive. Also it shows that the more gears in the auto transmission, the better the fuel economy.
Acura, are you listening ? Is it about time to move away from the 5AT ?
Acura, are you listening ? Is it about time to move away from the 5AT ?
08-14-2008, 06:01 PM
#4678
Who cares if they put a 6-speed auto in there or not. Its still going to be the ugliest car in its class. Seriously.
Maxima, G sedan, A4/A6, E-Class, 5-series, new TL. Pick the ugliest one.... its a no brainer. They're going to need a miracle for this TL to sell. Either that or they're putting something in that coffee at the dealerships.
Maxima, G sedan, A4/A6, E-Class, 5-series, new TL. Pick the ugliest one.... its a no brainer. They're going to need a miracle for this TL to sell. Either that or they're putting something in that coffee at the dealerships.
08-14-2008, 06:16 PM
#4679
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by unsure
honda will offer 6spd at in the new tl...it just wont be this year...most likely for the mmc or after they put it in the gen3 rl
08-14-2008, 06:55 PM
#4680
6G TLX-S
Originally Posted by phile
Yes they are. And a 6AT will debute in the new Fit.
