Acura: TLX News
06-30-2006, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by biker
I think that's a given. that 295HP would be over 300 under the old rating system at which point almost everyone changes to RWD or AWD.
It seems obvious to me that Acura is going by way of Audi and will be trumpeting SH-AWD all the way.
300HP and FWD just don't mix.
It seems obvious to me that Acura is going by way of Audi and will be trumpeting SH-AWD all the way.
300HP and FWD just don't mix.
06-30-2006, 10:25 PM
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My guess is that if Acura goes with the 3.5L engine and SHAWD on the TL, the peak HP will be higher than 295 and it should be higher than the 306HP from the IS350.
07-01-2006, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
My guess is that if Acura goes with the 3.5L engine and SHAWD on the TL, the peak HP will be higher than 295 and it should be higher than the 306HP from the IS350.
07-01-2006, 11:18 AM
#2725
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Originally Posted by cob3683
I will be glad if they do. Hopefully Acura will realize that they need to offer both RWD and AWD because not everyone fits into that one category.
MB, Infiniti, Lexus, and BMW have figured this out.....Acura, you're up.
MB, Infiniti, Lexus, and BMW have figured this out.....Acura, you're up.
No everyone wants AWD...or wants to pay extra for it. Acura needs to offer RWD and AWD. 
07-02-2006, 07:07 AM
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Any confirmed or reliable info on the proposed changes for the TL in 2007? I've heard more power, turn signal indicators added to side mirrors, backup lights moved from license plate area down into rear bumber, tail lights to get clear lenses. Just wondered how much of this, if any, can be confirmed. And what other info anyone has heard. We're trying to decide if we should buy an '06 now, or wait for the '07. Would help my decision if I knew more about the '07.
07-02-2006, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by provench
Something has got to give here right? I meant with more HP and likely more torque I can only imagine how this thing is gonna be off the line given how my current 6MT '05 behaves 
07-02-2006, 09:34 AM
#2735
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If they have a new engine for the MDX, it would make sense to throw it in the RL...especially if they're bumping up the TL for the MMC...and turboing the TSX? 
-S variants all around for 07?
-S variants all around for 07?
07-02-2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob12
Any confirmed or reliable info on the proposed changes for the TL in 2007? I've heard more power, turn signal indicators added to side mirrors, backup lights moved from license plate area down into rear bumber, tail lights to get clear lenses. Just wondered how much of this, if any, can be confirmed. And what other info anyone has heard. We're trying to decide if we should buy an '06 now, or wait for the '07. Would help my decision if I knew more about the '07.
Things likely to happen for 07 by my best guess:
-more power
-turn signal mirrors
-a feature or two over the 06 (maybe navtraffic like the RL or a power steering wheel?)
07-02-2006, 07:13 PM
#2739
Originally Posted by youngTL
Nobody knows. Honda is very tight-lipped about their releases. They always have been.
Things likely to happen for 07 by my best guess:
-more power
-turn signal mirrors
-a feature or two over the 06 (maybe navtraffic like the RL or a power steering wheel?)
Things likely to happen for 07 by my best guess:
-more power
-turn signal mirrors
-a feature or two over the 06 (maybe navtraffic like the RL or a power steering wheel?)
The Accord received different wood-pattern trim (plood), I'm guessing the plood-version of the TL will too.
07-02-2006, 07:53 PM
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Doesn't the current TL have a torque-steer correcting system (same as what saab has been doing for awhile...it limits the torque in 1st and 2nd gears)?
Theoretically, the cause of torque steer isn't the "torque", it's the uneven application of the torque to the front wheels, and current methods try to correct this "indirectly" by suspension geometry. Honda already has technology that can actively "control" torque, such as the system that was in the Prelude SH and the RL's SH-AWD. They could use torque limiting that they use now in 1st and 2nd gear, but also incorporate technology that could actively direct the flow of torque on starts (maybe even getting rid of torque limiting), and the system can also add to handling like in the prelude. This would probably kill all road feel, but it could work.
Or even a simpler method, they can incorporate a system into VSA..it could sense the forces acting on the steering components under hard acceleration and use the front brakes to direct the torque one way or another to equalize the forces acting on the steering pinion.
So theoretically speaking, with current and new technology, they can easily fix torque steer even with high torque on FWD cars. The only question is what costs this would involve, and would it just be more economical and sensible to go to RWD or AWD?
Theoretically, the cause of torque steer isn't the "torque", it's the uneven application of the torque to the front wheels, and current methods try to correct this "indirectly" by suspension geometry. Honda already has technology that can actively "control" torque, such as the system that was in the Prelude SH and the RL's SH-AWD. They could use torque limiting that they use now in 1st and 2nd gear, but also incorporate technology that could actively direct the flow of torque on starts (maybe even getting rid of torque limiting), and the system can also add to handling like in the prelude. This would probably kill all road feel, but it could work.
Or even a simpler method, they can incorporate a system into VSA..it could sense the forces acting on the steering components under hard acceleration and use the front brakes to direct the torque one way or another to equalize the forces acting on the steering pinion.
So theoretically speaking, with current and new technology, they can easily fix torque steer even with high torque on FWD cars. The only question is what costs this would involve, and would it just be more economical and sensible to go to RWD or AWD?
07-03-2006, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by chungkopi
i guess bmw won't make fun of acura anymore.
wasnt BMW making fun of the volkswagen rabbit with that ad, would make more sense since its showing a rabbit, and the VW rabbit is FWD
07-03-2006, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
wasnt BMW making fun of the volkswagen rabbit with that ad, would make more sense since its showing a rabbit, and the VW rabbit is FWD
Techincally, is that a "Rabbit" or a "hare"?
07-03-2006, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
Not to start discussing this ad again, but most likely not...BMW's direct competitor to the Rabbit or GTI or higher golf/jetta trims is the Mini, which is also FWD.
Techincally, is that a "Rabbit" or a "hare"?
Techincally, is that a "Rabbit" or a "hare"?
Hare:
Differences between the two:
Rabbits are slightly shorter legged, and are happy living in groups. Rabbits also burrow, and in the wild will live below ground when they are not feeding, and they have their litters below ground.
Hares are solitary creatures unless breeding, and rely on running rather than burrowing for protection. They have very long and strong hind legs, more so than rabbits. They make shallow "scrapes" in which to hide, but generally dig no deeper than a few inches; more often their scrape, or "form", will be no more than a bit of flattened grass. They will have their litters in a scrape, and rely on moving the young leverets from place to place to keep them from being found by predators. Unlike rabbits, hares are born fully furred and with their eyes open, and are able to hop from a few minutes after birth.
Hares are solitary creatures unless breeding, and rely on running rather than burrowing for protection. They have very long and strong hind legs, more so than rabbits. They make shallow "scrapes" in which to hide, but generally dig no deeper than a few inches; more often their scrape, or "form", will be no more than a bit of flattened grass. They will have their litters in a scrape, and rely on moving the young leverets from place to place to keep them from being found by predators. Unlike rabbits, hares are born fully furred and with their eyes open, and are able to hop from a few minutes after birth.
I think that is a photo of a hare.
07-03-2006, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Bottom Line?
I think that is a photo of a hare.
I think that is a photo of a hare.
07-03-2006, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
I think it's a rabbit. The photoshop is a pic of a rabbit with is front legs transposed to the rear and vice versa. When you look at the length of the rear legs (which are actually the front legs on a non-photoshopped bunny) you see that they most resemble those of the rabbit.
07-04-2006, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TL CHROMETIDE
I thought we were talking about the TL 
07-05-2006, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I think that is a photo of a hare.
And I'm with a number of you in thinking that we're going to be seeing SH-AWD making its way in there to help get this new power to the ground more appropriately.
07-05-2006, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
And I'm with a number of you in thinking that we're going to be seeing SH-AWD making its way in there to help get this new power to the ground more appropriately.
07-06-2006, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
And I'm with a number of you in thinking that we're going to be seeing SH-AWD making its way in there to help get this new power to the ground more appropriately.
07-06-2006, 09:02 AM
#2754
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Originally Posted by Rob12
Would love to see SH-AWD in the '07! I'm not optimistic, but I guess we'll know for sure in September. Hopefully more reliable information will leak out soon. Was debating between buying '06 now or waiting for the '07. At this late date, I might as well wait and see the new one before making a decision.
07-06-2006, 01:57 PM
#2755
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Originally Posted by charliemike
ROFL, I didn't realize they were backwards. Very clever
me neither!
07-16-2006, 09:58 AM
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This was in the TL forum:
Welcome to the 2007 Acura MDX and TL
Press Preview Website!
Acura invites you to experience Ahead, by previewing the all new, advanced 2007 Acura MDX, and the exciting and more powerful TL.
Please join us at the 2007 MDX and TL Press Preview to be held in two waves at:
Nemacolin Woodlands Resort in Farmington, PA
Wave 1: July 16 - 19
Wave 2: July 19 - 22
To make your travel arrangements, simply click on the "REGISTRATION" tab and follow the instructions.
We look forward to seeing you in the beautiful rolling hills of southwestern Pennsylvania where you will experience the excitement of Ahead with the 2007 Acura MDX and TL.
Welcome to the 2007 Acura MDX and TL
Press Preview Website!
Acura invites you to experience Ahead, by previewing the all new, advanced 2007 Acura MDX, and the exciting and more powerful TL.
Please join us at the 2007 MDX and TL Press Preview to be held in two waves at:
Nemacolin Woodlands Resort in Farmington, PA
Wave 1: July 16 - 19
Wave 2: July 19 - 22
To make your travel arrangements, simply click on the "REGISTRATION" tab and follow the instructions.
We look forward to seeing you in the beautiful rolling hills of southwestern Pennsylvania where you will experience the excitement of Ahead with the 2007 Acura MDX and TL.
07-16-2006, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by invincible569
This was in the TL forum:
Welcome to the 2007 Acura MDX and TL
Press Preview Website!
Acura invites you to experience Ahead, by previewing the all new, advanced 2007 Acura MDX, and the exciting and more powerful TL.
Please join us at the 2007 MDX and TL Press Preview to be held in two waves at:
Nemacolin Woodlands Resort in Farmington, PA
Wave 1: July 16 - 19
Wave 2: July 19 - 22
To make your travel arrangements, simply click on the "REGISTRATION" tab and follow the instructions.
We look forward to seeing you in the beautiful rolling hills of southwestern Pennsylvania where you will experience the excitement of Ahead with the 2007 Acura MDX and TL.
Welcome to the 2007 Acura MDX and TL
Press Preview Website!
Acura invites you to experience Ahead, by previewing the all new, advanced 2007 Acura MDX, and the exciting and more powerful TL.
Please join us at the 2007 MDX and TL Press Preview to be held in two waves at:
Nemacolin Woodlands Resort in Farmington, PA
Wave 1: July 16 - 19
Wave 2: July 19 - 22
To make your travel arrangements, simply click on the "REGISTRATION" tab and follow the instructions.
We look forward to seeing you in the beautiful rolling hills of southwestern Pennsylvania where you will experience the excitement of Ahead with the 2007 Acura MDX and TL.
interesting... anyone going? Take some shots and write some reviews..
07-16-2006, 12:37 PM
#2758
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Originally Posted by Rob12
Acura dealer told me yesterday it would be sometime in Septemebr.
07-16-2006, 12:40 PM
#2759
I love cars!
Originally Posted by charliemike
ROFL, I didn't realize they were backwards. Very clever
They're talking about driving thte front wheels as backward thinking....maybe you need to get to the zoo more often!
