Acura: RLX News
02-05-2008, 02:55 PM
#1362
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by biker
Do you think that Honda is run by idiots
Exibit A - 2005 Acura RL
Let's say the unveiled model doubles the sales without any other major changes besides sheet metal? What would your explanation for the sales increase be? 
I can easily see that happening with fresh styling alone. The real question is how long will that sales increase last? Even the current RL had +200-300% sales increase over the previous gen for a few months.
02-06-2008, 03:24 AM
#1363
Race Director
Originally Posted by dom
Problem with that question is that it won't take much to double sales from 300 to 600. I can easily see that happening with fresh styling alone. The real question is how long will that sales increase last?
Even the current RL had +200-300% sales increase over the previous gen for a few months.
I can easily see that happening with fresh styling alone. The real question is how long will that sales increase last? Even the current RL had +200-300% sales increase over the previous gen for a few months.
The Honda folks we're not idiots for the idea but the implementation.
02-06-2008, 05:45 AM
#1364
Safety Car
Eh
Originally Posted by biker
OK, lets say the car sells 800/mo (about what Honda expects - 20K/yr) with sheet metal alone for the next 2 years?
The Honda folks we're not idiots for the idea but the implementation.
The Honda folks we're not idiots for the idea but the implementation.
This is still just a refresh so I am not expecting anything too spectacular ... so I see a lot of people complaining not unlike after the debut of the TL refresh/Type-S:
No SH-AWD??
No 300+ HP??!
No ventilated seats?!?
I have no doubt that Acura is going to do what they can but w/ refreshes, 1 tends to be painted into a corner & can only do so much until the full model change.
02-06-2008, 08:40 AM
#1365
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by biker
OK, lets say the car sells 800/mo (about what Honda expects - 20K/yr) with sheet metal alone for the next 2 years?
The Honda folks we're not idiots for the idea but the implementation.
The Honda folks we're not idiots for the idea but the implementation.
I think Honda would be ecstatic with 800 a month for 2 years. But I seriously doubt that will happen.
And ya, 800 per month is about 20K over 2 years which is maybe what you meant.
02-06-2008, 09:01 AM
#1366
Race Director
Originally Posted by dom
I think Honda would be ecstatic with 800 a month for 2 years. But I seriously doubt that will happen.
And ya, 800 per month is about 20K over 2 years which is maybe what you meant.
And ya, 800 per month is about 20K over 2 years which is maybe what you meant.
02-06-2008, 10:04 AM
#1371
Senior Moderator
Its sad that the RL is so underrated that there are no spy shots of it anywhere.
I cant remember another car that made it to the debut without me seeing it online first.
I cant remember another car that made it to the debut without me seeing it online first.
02-06-2008, 10:19 AM
#1376
UPDATE from the press conference:
The car has just rolled out on the floor. 300hp and 275lb-ft from a new version of SOHC VTEC from 3.7L of displacement. The new version of VTEC incorporates dual lift profiles on the exhaust valves as well as the intake. The styling updates are noticeable but it's questionable whether the changes will be received well. As rumored, the car offers realtime weather (from XM) as well as cooled and heated seats (10-way adjustable on the passenger side now too). The headlights and taillights have adopted some curvature which looks a little bit like what BMW's done with their headlights. Photos coming soon.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=738481
The car has just rolled out on the floor. 300hp and 275lb-ft from a new version of SOHC VTEC from 3.7L of displacement. The new version of VTEC incorporates dual lift profiles on the exhaust valves as well as the intake. The styling updates are noticeable but it's questionable whether the changes will be received well. As rumored, the car offers realtime weather (from XM) as well as cooled and heated seats (10-way adjustable on the passenger side now too). The headlights and taillights have adopted some curvature which looks a little bit like what BMW's done with their headlights. Photos coming soon.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=738481
02-06-2008, 10:39 AM
#1390
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After looking at it for a bit i think its fine. Just that grill is what kills the whole thing.
I like the headlights and the rear is nicely done. Doesnt scream flagship but i guess that was expecting too much from them.
I like the headlights and the rear is nicely done. Doesnt scream flagship but i guess that was expecting too much from them.
02-06-2008, 10:44 AM
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wow
acura has always had a special place in my heart...but this is a tough one to justify....very disappointing w/the looks of the car looks classless imo
acura has always had a special place in my heart...but this is a tough one to justify....very disappointing w/the looks of the car looks classless imo
02-06-2008, 10:48 AM
#1396
on to the next one...
they just don't want to compete, do they? I'd like to see some int. pics, but so far, I'd take the current model anyday...
They haven't given me ONE reason why I shouldn't go out and buy a M35/45.
02-06-2008, 10:49 AM
#1397
What Would Don Draper Do?
Originally Posted by dom
Wow. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse at Acura. 
Did they miss all the complaints about looking too much like an Accord?
300HP
Did they miss all the complaints about looking too much like an Accord?
300HP
so acura didn't disappoint that much.
but yea. maybe they don't know realize what the accord looks like?
and this does make the previous model look much nicer.
neuronbob should be happy right now.
02-06-2008, 10:51 AM
#1398
What Would Don Draper Do?
Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
After looking at it for a bit i think its fine. Just that grill is what kills the whole thing.
I like the headlights and the rear is nicely done. Doesnt scream flagship but i guess that was expecting too much from them.
I like the headlights and the rear is nicely done. Doesnt scream flagship but i guess that was expecting too much from them.
but the grille...
is it safe to assume the next TSX will have it too?
02-06-2008, 10:54 AM
#1399
Senior Moderator
The entire car is just a bandage from the styling to the engine to the transmission. I guess we shouldn't have expected more since we knew it was only a MMC.
02-06-2008, 10:57 AM
#1400
Senior Moderator
You should see how RL owners are responding. I am personally VERY glad I own a 2006 RL. It is a looker in the front compared to that....that.....I don't even know what to call it.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...&page=41&pp=25
The interior is great, though. The rear is not bad at all. The torque number is pretty good....remember that torque is what you need for acceleration, not hp.
I guess I shouldn't have been joking yesterday about the resale value on my RL. I think it's going to go up.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...&page=41&pp=25
The interior is great, though. The rear is not bad at all. The torque number is pretty good....remember that torque is what you need for acceleration, not hp.
I guess I shouldn't have been joking yesterday about the resale value on my RL. I think it's going to go up.