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Old 05-03-2010, 11:30 PM
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This thread has so much win in it.
Bravo!
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cant wait to see some vids / pics of these running
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great job guys. glad things are coming together.

Rodney, any info for me?
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i was thinking about putting in a turbo but definitely don't want to kill my engine by doing so... anyone have thoughts and experience?
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do it right and get a good tune and keep the psi where its safe and u wont have any problems with the engine
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Holy crap! This thread has 86 pages already!?! AND I can't wait to see it finished either! Now someone start working on the TWIN turbo setup lol.
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i be down to do the mod after i see long time results
Old 05-09-2010, 11:36 AM
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Update:
Ok I was all set to tune last night when the shop noticed the brand new Zex plugs were fouled and needed to be replaced. The new plugs have been ordered and will be here tomorrow. I am going with Ngk 8's since they are easier to get. My plugs got fouled by the RDX injectors being run with the stock ecu pig rich.
I thing we should be able to get up a running tomorrow at which point I will post another update.

This being the first to run this kit thing sounded better in my head than it is turning out to be. All these ups and downs are killing me, one minute I am excited about the prospect of running this bad boy and the next I am questioning why I am doing this. I had a supercharger on the car prior to this install that was running great. Thank god my wife is cool, because the getting a tune up excuse didn't work for a month. I had to come clean, just not with the cost of anything.
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
Update:
Ok I was all set to tune last night when the shop noticed the brand new Zex plugs were fouled and needed to be replaced. The new plugs have been ordered and will be here tomorrow. I am going with Ngk 8's since they are easier to get. My plugs got fouled by the RDX injectors being run with the stock ecu pig rich.
I thing we should be able to get up a running tomorrow at which point I will post another update.

This being the first to run this kit thing sounded better in my head than it is turning out to be. All these ups and downs are killing me, one minute I am excited about the prospect of running this bad boy and the next I am questioning why I am doing this. I had a supercharger on the car prior to this install that was running great. Thank god my wife is cool, because the getting a tune up excuse didn't work for a month. I had to come clean, just not with the cost of anything.
Remember when you first installed your S/C and how you had to peak and tweak it before you were completely satisfied with the results. I am sure the same will apply here as well. Just don't get discourage. Now the wife issue is a whole different story, and believe me, she has an ideal of the cost
Old 05-09-2010, 12:32 PM
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I don't think many people understand the cost of undertaking such a project. Lots of hidden cost and supporting mods, but the end result is well worth it.
Old 05-09-2010, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
I don't think many people understand the cost of undertaking such a project. Lots of hidden cost and supporting mods, but the end result is well worth it.
I can only imagine.

How does it pull so far without a tune?
Old 05-09-2010, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
I can only imagine.

How does it pull so far without a tune?
If you are refering to the Corrola I rented, it's alittle slower than I'd like. The car is still in the shop so no driving it yet. I have been dealing with all the issues so it hasn't been ready to drive. I did go see it on Friday and it's impressive to say the least. I had a exhaust cut out installed and the guy started it and then opened the cut out, wow the sound is wild. Sitting there at idel the car sounds stock, but open up the cut out and you can hear this is no stock TL. We couldn't go into boost because the Fic was not installed. Let's hope tomorrow is the day, because I badly need something with more power.
I spent the whole day yesterday listening to how I should have left that " stupid jap car alone" and bought the 4.6 litter DOHC Ford engine for the Mustang.

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once its done, ull be the one thats gonna be talking shit. and post pics and many videos
Old 05-10-2010, 12:41 PM
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man this is exciting lol. cant wait to hear how this goes
Old 05-10-2010, 03:32 PM
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So that means no RDX injectors with the stock ECU?

I'm going to have to see if the ONLY dyno in this area will do my inspection. They don't sniff tailpipes here but I don't know about physical inspection for the cats.

I was considering using adapters so that swapping injectors would be easier. Depending on the first inspection, I might look into them or build them myself.
Old 05-10-2010, 04:43 PM
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I don't know for sure but I think as long as you have the Fic installed it will scale down the injectors enough to keep the bigger injectors from being noticed. My car runs perfect ( atleast I am told ) with the larger injectors and Fic installed.
Old 05-10-2010, 09:51 PM
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slip the tech doing it $50-$100. or go to a shady place in the hood
Old 05-10-2010, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
So that means no RDX injectors with the stock ECU?

I'm going to have to see if the ONLY dyno in this area will do my inspection. They don't sniff tailpipes here but I don't know about physical inspection for the cats.

I was considering using adapters so that swapping injectors would be easier. Depending on the first inspection, I might look into them or build them myself.
If the tune is right, you should never have to swap injectors. My injectors flow nearly twice as much as the RDX injectors and the car drives, idles, and passes smog fine. It's all in the tune. Pulling back the PW is all you have to do.
Old 05-10-2010, 10:49 PM
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^^+1 very true a good tune goes a very long way...(man I wish I had the time and money for this Turbo...getting a huge itch for this Turbo.....I dream of boost,boost,boost!! instead of counting sheeps, I count you get the point)

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Old 05-10-2010, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
If the tune is right, you should never have to swap injectors. My injectors flow nearly twice as much as the RDX injectors and the car drives, idles, and passes smog fine. It's all in the tune. Pulling back the PW is all you have to do.
Pointless I know, but out of curiosity...can the stock ECU pull back pulse width enough on a larger injector (such as the rdx) in order to make a stock motor run right?
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Originally Posted by gerzand
Pointless I know, but out of curiosity...can the stock ECU pull back pulse width enough on a larger injector (such as the rdx) in order to make a stock motor run right?
No, my car was running a AFR of 7 with the stock injectors, basicly twice the injector and twice the gas. An afr of 14.7 is what it should be so about twice as much gas as there should be.
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Originally Posted by BostonSilverTypeS
^^+1 very true a good tune goes a very long way...(man I wish I had the time and money for this Turbo...getting a huge itch for this Turbo.....I dream of boost,boost,boost!! instead of counting sheeps, I count you get the point)

Buy a used supercharger. 1/3 the price of the turbo, 100 HP, and the sweetest supercharger whine you ever heard.
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
No, my car was running a AFR of 7 with the stock injectors, basicly twice the injector and twice the gas. An afr of 14.7 is what it should be so about twice as much gas as there should be.
Yeah, you mean't RDX injectors right? I mean i couldnt figure why a stock injector would dump twice as much fuel...unless im missing something

But i definitely understand about stoich. In my N/A motor with stock inectors, above 5800rpm (all the way to redline) AFR goes to 11 flat which is quite rich . I could probably get a bit more power out of the top end with an FIC and a tune.
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Yes RDX injectors.
Old 05-11-2010, 09:59 PM
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any updates or pictures or the kit ? i believed you said car was running ? i'm super excited!!!
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
Buy a used supercharger. 1/3 the price of the turbo, 100 HP, and the sweetest supercharger whine you ever heard.
I would go this route, but from what I heard and seen is on a TypeS you don't get that much power because of the high compression...Unless there is a tune out there for the supercharger on a TL-S...I think last thread I seen was a TL-S making extra 50whp or so...
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I didn't realize you were a type-s. It has been done but requires some extra tuning.
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
No, my car was running a AFR of 7 with the stock injectors, basicly twice the injector and twice the gas. An afr of 14.7 is what it should be so about twice as much gas as there should be.
7 at idle, wide open, or cruise? There's a point even on the rich side where you should stop driving the car and get the fueling sorted out. Running it at 7:1 will wash down the cylinder walls and cause rapid cylinder and ring wear. Nothing will happen right away but it will quickly reduce engine life expectancy by half or more. Did you change the oil out once you got it fixed?

14.7 is stoich but really the engine will go slightly leaner under low load and much richer under heavy load. 14.7 ensures the emissions (combined) will be at their lowest.
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Hi Speed, out of curiosity, did your installer use the oil restriction plate on the turbo or just thread the fitting into the turbo?
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Originally Posted by gerzand
Pointless I know, but out of curiosity...can the stock ECU pull back pulse width enough on a larger injector (such as the rdx) in order to make a stock motor run right?
It will eventually but will throw codes, once the fuel trims hit 17% eaither direction in the ECU it will code for "stuck lean" oir "stuck rich". I must say thou I have never seen 7 AFR with the RDX injectors on the stock ECU, usually 12AFR during cold open loop startup but not 7. Generally when I do install them with the FIC I will just start out with setting all cells to pull 25% and then start tweaking from there.
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
Hi Speed, out of curiosity, did your installer use the oil restriction plate on the turbo or just thread the fitting into the turbo?
+1, without the restrictor you will drop enough oil pressure to kill your bearings at idle.
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Originally Posted by NVA-AV6
+1, without the restrictor you will drop enough oil pressure to kill your bearings at idle.
x2. Been there done that. I had 0 oil pressure (in the GN) at idle and 20psi at 3,000rpm. On top of that, you will most likely get smoking out of the exhaust over time from oil leaking past the turbo seals.

Very good info on the +-17% required to set a code.
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Info from J&R says they used -3 feed line and can run with or without the plate. Running an -4 line was feeding too much oil. All suggestions made with consultation with Precision.
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Hi speed, are you up and running yet?
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Hi speed, are you up and running yet?

I am up and running but am out of town, so I only drove the car back from the shop at midnight. I will get some pics up once I get back. I have one pic on my lap top of the engine compartment to show the turbo installed.
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lets get an update, pic of something, im so hype, this all i think about, lol,
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I'm pretty pumped as well^
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I have been driving the car around for a few days now and am impressed with the change. I have never driven a turbo car before, so it's a change in power band and overall power. I was running the supercharger before so I am use to the car having the extra power, but it seems hard to get into full boost without hitting other motorists. I am running a little less HP and a little more TQ on this tune than I was with the blower, since I havent perfected my tune. The TQ comes in a lot lower in the rpm range and the power seems more smooth.

As far as the sound it is quieter than the supercharger, but still very altered sounding when at idle or driving easy (out of boost), under boost is a whole different story. Now I have and exhaust cut out and that changes things quite a bit interms of sound, now we are talking race car. Even at Idle the car is loud, start getting on it and everyone in a 3 block raduis knows your comming. I have opened it twice. Once to see how it improved spool on the freeway and again to scare a new M3 in traffic. The blow off valve is what gets most peoples attention.

Lastly I changed out the clutch to a 8 puck P2R clutch with the stock PP and flywheel and did the clutch slave mod to help speed up the shifts and hold the extra power. There is some chatter when you first get going and trying to inch along in traffic but, the engaugment is more solid and with practice I can avoid the shutter.
Here are some pics I took. I didn't take too many durring the install.

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Hi speed,

It was great to read your first-hand experiences with the turbo. Looking forward to the exciting times ahead.


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