Turbo Kit for Acura TL '04-'08
#3521
Safety Car
I am pretty sure that the timing is retarded enough to prevent denotation with the load experienced in 4th gear wot. This leaves pre-ignition. In other words, the oem plugs are acting like a glow plug. If true, no amount of timing retard (FIC included) will be able to prevent this denotation.
I was wrong about the pre-ignition.
I did some datalogging to track the ignition timing in 4th gear (5AT) under heavy throttle (70% throttle).
The ecu does not pull away any timing when it shifts into 4th gear under heavy throttle (70% throttle). The timing is actually more in 4th (25.5*) than in 3rd (22*).
With the identical situation that caused detonation before, but with my pseudo knock sensor giving me 8* less timing , I had no traces of detonation in 4th gear.
#3522
Team Owner
I was wrong about the pre-ignition.
I did some datalogging to track the ignition timing in 4th gear (5AT) under heavy throttle (70% throttle).
The ecu does not pull away any timing when it shifts into 4th gear under heavy throttle (70% throttle). The timing is actually more in 4th (25.5*) than in 3rd (22*).
With the identical situation that caused detonation before, but with my pseudo knock sensor giving me 8* less timing , I had no traces of detonation in 4th gear.
I did some datalogging to track the ignition timing in 4th gear (5AT) under heavy throttle (70% throttle).
The ecu does not pull away any timing when it shifts into 4th gear under heavy throttle (70% throttle). The timing is actually more in 4th (25.5*) than in 3rd (22*).
With the identical situation that caused detonation before, but with my pseudo knock sensor giving me 8* less timing , I had no traces of detonation in 4th gear.
What kind of timing does it run at wide open? At 70% throttle, it's really not very much timing for a NA engine.
#3523
Safety Car
IHC,
You're PM is full again
I don't want to pollute the Turbo thread too much
I have been thinking about starting a separate thread to share stuff that I learn from the DashDyno data logging.
I had not done so yet because I didn't think people would really care.
But as long as I have you being interested, that is enough for me.
In a day or two, I will start a new thread in the Off-Topic section. I will send you a link when I have the new thread created.
You're PM is full again
I don't want to pollute the Turbo thread too much
I have been thinking about starting a separate thread to share stuff that I learn from the DashDyno data logging.
I had not done so yet because I didn't think people would really care.
But as long as I have you being interested, that is enough for me.
In a day or two, I will start a new thread in the Off-Topic section. I will send you a link when I have the new thread created.
#3524
Team Owner
IHC,
You're PM is full again
I don't want to pollute the Turbo thread too much
I have been thinking about starting a separate thread to share stuff that I learn from the DashDyno data logging.
I had not done so yet because I didn't think people would really care.
But as long as I have you being interested, that is enough for me.
In a day or two, I will start a new thread in the Off-Topic section. I will send you a link when I have the new thread created.
You're PM is full again
I don't want to pollute the Turbo thread too much
I have been thinking about starting a separate thread to share stuff that I learn from the DashDyno data logging.
I had not done so yet because I didn't think people would really care.
But as long as I have you being interested, that is enough for me.
In a day or two, I will start a new thread in the Off-Topic section. I will send you a link when I have the new thread created.
#3526
Burning Brakes
IHC,
You're PM is full again
I don't want to pollute the Turbo thread too much
I have been thinking about starting a separate thread to share stuff that I learn from the DashDyno data logging.
I had not done so yet because I didn't think people would really care.
But as long as I have you being interested, that is enough for me.
In a day or two, I will start a new thread in the Off-Topic section. I will send you a link when I have the new thread created.
You're PM is full again
I don't want to pollute the Turbo thread too much
I have been thinking about starting a separate thread to share stuff that I learn from the DashDyno data logging.
I had not done so yet because I didn't think people would really care.
But as long as I have you being interested, that is enough for me.
In a day or two, I will start a new thread in the Off-Topic section. I will send you a link when I have the new thread created.
I'd love someone other than myself datalog or scan tool this and see what results they came up with under boost...
Starting a new thread also cleared up confusion of the kit requiring a timing control unit other than what we offer with the kit ..
#3527
Got your mom in
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IHC,
You're PM is full again
I don't want to pollute the Turbo thread too much
I have been thinking about starting a separate thread to share stuff that I learn from the DashDyno data logging.
I had not done so yet because I didn't think people would really care.
But as long as I have you being interested, that is enough for me.
In a day or two, I will start a new thread in the Off-Topic section. I will send you a link when I have the new thread created.
You're PM is full again
I don't want to pollute the Turbo thread too much
I have been thinking about starting a separate thread to share stuff that I learn from the DashDyno data logging.
I had not done so yet because I didn't think people would really care.
But as long as I have you being interested, that is enough for me.
In a day or two, I will start a new thread in the Off-Topic section. I will send you a link when I have the new thread created.
We need an "Inaccurate Sticky"
lol
#3532
Team Owner
#3533
runnin a little boost
iTrader: (3)
My car is growing.
I noticed that without the blower and battery in the engine conpartment my car sits alot higher than it did before. About 100 lbs off the front end, maybe a little less. My parking ball scrapes across the hood now. I have been trying to figure out what was going on for awhile now and today it came to me, I pulled a bunch a weight off the front end.
I noticed that without the blower and battery in the engine conpartment my car sits alot higher than it did before. About 100 lbs off the front end, maybe a little less. My parking ball scrapes across the hood now. I have been trying to figure out what was going on for awhile now and today it came to me, I pulled a bunch a weight off the front end.
#3534
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Do you have a DGP or is that another color?
Safe to assume you didn't close the garage door on your rear bumper?
My car is growing.
I noticed that without the blower and battery in the engine conpartment my car sits alot higher than it did before. About 100 lbs off the front end, maybe a little less. My parking ball scrapes across the hood now. I have been trying to figure out what was going on for awhile now and today it came to me, I pulled a bunch a weight off the front end.
I noticed that without the blower and battery in the engine conpartment my car sits alot higher than it did before. About 100 lbs off the front end, maybe a little less. My parking ball scrapes across the hood now. I have been trying to figure out what was going on for awhile now and today it came to me, I pulled a bunch a weight off the front end.
#3536
runnin a little boost
iTrader: (3)
My AFR is finally up and running.
My car had a nasty voltage leak, my AFR gauge would read either 7.4 or 22 and I couldn't get my wipers off to do the UCM, but I was sooo busy that I haven't had time to get this stuff fixed until now.
Dropped the car off Monday to remedy the situation and went by this morning to pick it up.
The car.
It's running better than when it arrived and my AFR gauge finaly works. Another plus is I don't need to jump the car everytime I turn it off. The only downside is the tuner I use is out of town for 2 weeks so I have to wait on getting retuned. Rodney did send me a Fic with the original tune so I might plop that in since my AFR is working and see how it runs.
My car had a nasty voltage leak, my AFR gauge would read either 7.4 or 22 and I couldn't get my wipers off to do the UCM, but I was sooo busy that I haven't had time to get this stuff fixed until now.
Dropped the car off Monday to remedy the situation and went by this morning to pick it up.
The car.
It's running better than when it arrived and my AFR gauge finaly works. Another plus is I don't need to jump the car everytime I turn it off. The only downside is the tuner I use is out of town for 2 weeks so I have to wait on getting retuned. Rodney did send me a Fic with the original tune so I might plop that in since my AFR is working and see how it runs.
#3537
Team Owner
My AFR is finally up and running.
My car had a nasty voltage leak, my AFR gauge would read either 7.4 or 22 and I couldn't get my wipers off to do the UCM, but I was sooo busy that I haven't had time to get this stuff fixed until now.
Dropped the car off Monday to remedy the situation and went by this morning to pick it up.
The car.
It's running better than when it arrived and my AFR gauge finaly works. Another plus is I don't need to jump the car everytime I turn it off. The only downside is the tuner I use is out of town for 2 weeks so I have to wait on getting retuned. Rodney did send me a Fic with the original tune so I might plop that in since my AFR is working and see how it runs.
My car had a nasty voltage leak, my AFR gauge would read either 7.4 or 22 and I couldn't get my wipers off to do the UCM, but I was sooo busy that I haven't had time to get this stuff fixed until now.
Dropped the car off Monday to remedy the situation and went by this morning to pick it up.
The car.
It's running better than when it arrived and my AFR gauge finaly works. Another plus is I don't need to jump the car everytime I turn it off. The only downside is the tuner I use is out of town for 2 weeks so I have to wait on getting retuned. Rodney did send me a Fic with the original tune so I might plop that in since my AFR is working and see how it runs.
#3538
runnin a little boost
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So I have my car back and was told my Braille battery has to go. I thought I had a huge voltage leak that would cause the battery to drain to the point of resetting the ECU, but it turns out since the battery was relocated to the trunk the extra cable is eating all my voltage causing the battery to die. I know innaccurate's running a braille that is two sizes smaller than what I am running ( 17 lbs) to his (11 lbs) and never heard of any issues other than the car can't sit for more than two days. My question is does this seem strange? I am $240 into this battery with the mount, so looking for something I can do to to keep it. I don't drive the car very far anymore so that is a problem but complete discharge is crazy. I am driving around with a stock TL battery in the trunk to jump my self, so much for a lightweight battery, I'm running a 67 lbs battery with them both in there.
#3542
Team Owner
So I have my car back and was told my Braille battery has to go. I thought I had a huge voltage leak that would cause the battery to drain to the point of resetting the ECU, but it turns out since the battery was relocated to the trunk the extra cable is eating all my voltage causing the battery to die. I know innaccurate's running a braille that is two sizes smaller than what I am running ( 17 lbs) to his (11 lbs) and never heard of any issues other than the car can't sit for more than two days. My question is does this seem strange? I am $240 into this battery with the mount, so looking for something I can do to to keep it. I don't drive the car very far anymore so that is a problem but complete discharge is crazy. I am driving around with a stock TL battery in the trunk to jump my self, so much for a lightweight battery, I'm running a 67 lbs battery with them both in there.
#3544
Team Owner
Redundant grounds are great. It's always good to overdo it and have multiple paths in case one of them fail. Are you sure you're running 0 gauge? Just seems a little thin for that long of a run but if you're having no problems I guess I'm wrong.
#3545
Team Owner
So I have my car back and was told my Braille battery has to go. I thought I had a huge voltage leak that would cause the battery to drain to the point of resetting the ECU, but it turns out since the battery was relocated to the trunk the extra cable is eating all my voltage causing the battery to die. I know innaccurate's running a braille that is two sizes smaller than what I am running ( 17 lbs) to his (11 lbs) and never heard of any issues other than the car can't sit for more than two days. My question is does this seem strange? I am $240 into this battery with the mount, so looking for something I can do to to keep it. I don't drive the car very far anymore so that is a problem but complete discharge is crazy. I am driving around with a stock TL battery in the trunk to jump my self, so much for a lightweight battery, I'm running a 67 lbs battery with them both in there.
#3547
runnin a little boost
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I running what I think is 0 gauge wire, but I will have to look at my summit reciept. Looks like I will be getting more that beer from Costco for this weekend. I don't use optima batteries since they changed manufactures and became crap. I have gone thru 5-6 Red and yellow tops in the last 2-3 years in my race mustang. The multiple ground idea is also something I will be doing just to be safe.
#3548
Safety Car
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#3549
runnin a little boost
iTrader: (3)
I tried to install my oil cooler over the weekend , but couldn't find a good spot with the intercooler and everything else under there. I changed the oil late last week letting the car cool for 90 mins and the oil was still very hot so I think the cooler is needed. If anyone has ideas for where I should mount it, I would like to hear them. I have one more place I need to look at tomorrow, but there is not many places.
#3555
Safety Car
iTrader: (3)
There's only 3/4" between the intercooler and AC coils. I was able to put a power steering cooler in between so I'll likely go that route and just use a sandwich adapter.
Since I found Julio's kit on ebay, I am going to go 100% alcohol and don't want it in my trunk. So I'm looking at putting the tank on the left side outside the charge pipes behind the fender or somewhere on that side. I don't want to lose my windshield washers.
Since I found Julio's kit on ebay, I am going to go 100% alcohol and don't want it in my trunk. So I'm looking at putting the tank on the left side outside the charge pipes behind the fender or somewhere on that side. I don't want to lose my windshield washers.
#3557
18psi
iTrader: (7)
Hey guys...on the back of variable controller for the snow meth kit there is a nozzle that needs a boost line fed into it. I know rodney wants to use the nipple from the motor mount pump as a vacuum source for the boost controller. Can a boost line off this nipple be split in 2 directions so I can supply the boost controller and the meth controller at the same time? Or will that cause inconsistent readings in both units?
#3558
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (18)
Hey guys...on the back of variable controller for the snow meth kit there is a nozzle that needs a boost line fed into it. I know rodney wants to use the nipple from the motor mount pump as a vacuum source for the boost controller. Can a boost line off this nipple be split in 2 directions so I can supply the boost controller and the meth controller at the same time? Or will that cause inconsistent readings in both units?
#3559
Team Owner
Hey guys...on the back of variable controller for the snow meth kit there is a nozzle that needs a boost line fed into it. I know rodney wants to use the nipple from the motor mount pump as a vacuum source for the boost controller. Can a boost line off this nipple be split in 2 directions so I can supply the boost controller and the meth controller at the same time? Or will that cause inconsistent readings in both units?
It depends on the type of boost controller but it should work fine. However, I like to run the critical lines like the meth signal vacuum line as it's own dedicated line. That way, in the unlikely event the boost controller or motor mount line develops a leak, the meth is unaffected.
Keep in mind, some types of boost controllers actually bleed off vacuum via a controlled leak. This would affect meth trigger. I don't know about your setup but on some setups this could cause erratic trigger points.