Turbo Kit for Acura TL '04-'08
12-08-2009, 08:07 AM
#2481
I hope I'm not being stubborn here when I say Id rather stick with the 6 over the 8 and prevent you guys from getting what you really want. If both of you want the 8 then why couldn't Rodney just send my kit with the 6 (since its basically done) and work on incorporating the 8 for you guys?
Like i said before....2 maps seems like a great idea. But for me, I don't see it being practical. I'm scarred sh*tless as it is with my auto tranny getting an extra 175hp or so. Only time will tell how it handles the extra power. Anything more then that and I feel like im asking for trouble. We'll just have to wait and see. If you guys remember way back when this thread started, Banelba destroyed his auto trans only a few days (I believe) after having his turbo installed. I don't even know what kind of power he was putting down.
The other reason is this. I don't go to the track or autoX my car. The only times I really get on my car is on the highway with other drivers. If I had 2 maps installed, I think I would be very tempted to use the more powerful tune more times then not when daily driving and I would probably run into more problems that I can handle.
On a another note, I said before that I have to change my tranny cooler because i found out it wont fit with the intercooler. I found a few plate coolers that are .75" thick and I think that will give me enough clearance. From what Ive read, it seems that plate coolers achieve lower temps and tube and fin achieve better flow. B&M has the same cooler i have now but with a thickness of .75" vs 1.5". Would this be a wise choice or should I go for something that Hi Speed recommend which is long narrow cooler? most of the longer coolers are tube and fin design though..what to do what to do...........
Like i said before....2 maps seems like a great idea. But for me, I don't see it being practical. I'm scarred sh*tless as it is with my auto tranny getting an extra 175hp or so. Only time will tell how it handles the extra power. Anything more then that and I feel like im asking for trouble. We'll just have to wait and see. If you guys remember way back when this thread started, Banelba destroyed his auto trans only a few days (I believe) after having his turbo installed. I don't even know what kind of power he was putting down.
The other reason is this. I don't go to the track or autoX my car. The only times I really get on my car is on the highway with other drivers. If I had 2 maps installed, I think I would be very tempted to use the more powerful tune more times then not when daily driving and I would probably run into more problems that I can handle.
On a another note, I said before that I have to change my tranny cooler because i found out it wont fit with the intercooler. I found a few plate coolers that are .75" thick and I think that will give me enough clearance. From what Ive read, it seems that plate coolers achieve lower temps and tube and fin achieve better flow. B&M has the same cooler i have now but with a thickness of .75" vs 1.5". Would this be a wise choice or should I go for something that Hi Speed recommend which is long narrow cooler? most of the longer coolers are tube and fin design though..what to do what to do...........
Like I said in previous posts, it will remain as it is and you should know in a few days of the ship status.
12-08-2009, 01:22 PM
#2485
Here is what I am using the Earls plate type cooler. 4 in tall x 12 in long x 2 inches thick. I have used these on a number of Mustangs and Ford trucks where they are fully exposed with no grill to protect them and they have held up very well. It feels more strudy to me than the fin and tube type coolers.
I think sandwiching the tranny cooler with the radiator and intercooler is not going to be the best idea. Put the tranny cooler down in the bumper and keep all that heat away from the intercooler.
I think sandwiching the tranny cooler with the radiator and intercooler is not going to be the best idea. Put the tranny cooler down in the bumper and keep all that heat away from the intercooler.
12-08-2009, 01:25 PM
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^it wont fit..... there is only about an inch and a halh of clearance between the intercooler and radiator. also you will have to raise the intercooler all the way up which will cause the piping not to mount up..... well then again it can fit but you'll need a few different couplers to see which angle will work.
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12-08-2009, 03:01 PM
#2487
Here is what I am using the Earls plate type cooler. 4 in tall x 12 in long x 2 inches thick. I have used these on a number of Mustangs and Ford trucks where they are fully exposed with no grill to protect them and they have held up very well. It feels more strudy to me than the fin and tube type coolers.
I think sandwiching the tranny cooler with the radiator and intercooler is not going to be the best idea. Put the tranny cooler down in the bumper and keep all that heat away from the intercooler.
I think sandwiching the tranny cooler with the radiator and intercooler is not going to be the best idea. Put the tranny cooler down in the bumper and keep all that heat away from the intercooler.
I am surprised everyone is buying and installing all this stuff before the main components.
12-08-2009, 05:16 PM
#2488
Team Owner
Are you going to get enough air flow down there? I was thinking about maybe putting one in front of one of the bottom grill openings, but I wasn't sure how much room the intercooler was going to take.
I am surprised everyone is buying and installing all this stuff before the main components.
I am surprised everyone is buying and installing all this stuff before the main components.
12-08-2009, 06:06 PM
#2489
My point is that since there is limited room in front I am waiting to see where I have room and make sure I get a cooler that will fit.
As with the exhaust, I am waiting for that because having it just a quarter inch shorter or longer can really throw off how the tips exit.
As with the exhaust, I am waiting for that because having it just a quarter inch shorter or longer can really throw off how the tips exit.
12-08-2009, 06:55 PM
#2490
So the concensus is the kit will use the FIC-8 instead of the FIC-6 to take advantage of the 8's extra features, like dual maps. The question now is what can we do with the FIC-8's added features. I like the idea of hi RPM exhaust cutout opening and control of the meth controller.
12-08-2009, 07:06 PM
#2491
So the concensus is the kit will use the FIC-8 instead of the FIC-6 to take advantage of the 8's extra features, like dual maps. The question now is what can we do with the FIC-8's added features. I like the idea of hi RPM exhaust cutout opening and control of the meth controller.
12-09-2009, 03:01 AM
#2493
Here is what I am using the Earls plate type cooler. 4 in tall x 12 in long x 2 inches thick. I have used these on a number of Mustangs and Ford trucks where they are fully exposed with no grill to protect them and they have held up very well. It feels more strudy to me than the fin and tube type coolers.
I think sandwiching the tranny cooler with the radiator and intercooler is not going to be the best idea. Put the tranny cooler down in the bumper and keep all that heat away from the intercooler.
I think sandwiching the tranny cooler with the radiator and intercooler is not going to be the best idea. Put the tranny cooler down in the bumper and keep all that heat away from the intercooler.
^it wont fit..... there is only about an inch and a halh of clearance between the intercooler and radiator. also you will have to raise the intercooler all the way up which will cause the piping not to mount up..... well then again it can fit but you'll need a few different couplers to see which angle will work.
12-09-2009, 03:39 AM
#2494
So the concensus is the kit will use the FIC-8 instead of the FIC-6 to take advantage of the 8's extra features, like dual maps. The question now is what can we do with the FIC-8's added features. I like the idea of hi RPM exhaust cutout opening and control of the meth controller.
12-09-2009, 04:16 AM
#2495
So the fic8 has a boost controller built in correct? Aem's site says that you'll need the boost solenoid kit in-order for it to work. so that covers the electronic boost controller aspect of the kit? or you still need to buy their tru-boost gauge type controller? 
Im going to buy Aem's digital wideband air/fuel gauge also since everyone says thats an important piece as well.
http://aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=67
so the boost gauge and controller are taken care of with one unit. a/f with the other. looking for an IAT gauge.
Im going to buy Aem's digital wideband air/fuel gauge also since everyone says thats an important piece as well.
http://aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=67
so the boost gauge and controller are taken care of with one unit. a/f with the other. looking for an IAT gauge.
12-09-2009, 05:18 AM
#2496
Use this gauge (universal temp) and put the sensor in the air stream.
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=76
Although the FIC will control the boost you will still need a gauge like this to display it.
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=73
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=76
Although the FIC will control the boost you will still need a gauge like this to display it.
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=73
12-09-2009, 08:09 AM
#2497
I'm thinking that a cooler might fit on the right side opposite of where the CAI filter usually goes. But not actually looking yet, I don't know.
Would it be a good idea to have 3 coolers stacked up in a row? Isn't the first going to pass heat to the 2nd and that combo to the third? I know the intercooler isn't going to be that bad, but I would imagine an oil cooler is going to be pretty hot.
Would it be a good idea to have 3 coolers stacked up in a row? Isn't the first going to pass heat to the 2nd and that combo to the third? I know the intercooler isn't going to be that bad, but I would imagine an oil cooler is going to be pretty hot.
12-09-2009, 08:16 AM
#2499
Use this gauge (universal temp) and put the sensor in the air stream.
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=76
Although the FIC will control the boost you will still need a gauge like this to display it.
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=73
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=76
Although the FIC will control the boost you will still need a gauge like this to display it.
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=73
Definitely going with a AEM uego wideband too.
12-09-2009, 08:39 AM
#2500
The only drawback to the carputer (I have one) is screen placement vs gauges you can mount right on the steering colum cover. If you are going to install the gauges (especially WB O2 and Boost) I like them to be in the drivers face so that a issue can easily be seen before it becomes a CATO.
12-09-2009, 08:52 AM
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i know this isnt the greatest pic but it looks like your not even gonna have enough room for that type of cooler. i think for now im going to wait for the intercooler to arrive then mount it up and see how much room to I have to play with.
if theres an inch and a half then i think a .75 inch cooler will be fine.
if theres an inch and a half then i think a .75 inch cooler will be fine.
12-09-2009, 11:47 AM
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this is the setup you saw sunday..... i literally took this picture on the way there when we stopped to get gas. he had just put the battery cover on to see how much heat it could take.
12-09-2009, 11:54 AM
#2505
Team Owner
I love how the intercooler to throttle body pipe looks like your standard issue CAI pipe. The only thing giving it away is the t-bolt clamp. If I buy one, they're going to be on the bottom, hidden as much as possible.
12-09-2009, 02:58 PM
#2510
Use this gauge (universal temp) and put the sensor in the air stream.
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=76
Although the FIC will control the boost you will still need a gauge like this to display it.
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=73
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=76
Although the FIC will control the boost you will still need a gauge like this to display it.
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=73
12-09-2009, 10:50 PM
#2512
Team Owner
On this particular dyno I have a feeling at a minimum the rpms were off causing the weird readings.
12-14-2009, 03:57 AM
#2514
this may be a dumb question but i have a remote start system installed on my car. will the wiring for the remote start interfere with the fic? i have no idea how the remote start is connected to the cars wiring but i do know there are 2 electronic units wired into something under the driver side foot-well.
12-14-2009, 04:34 AM
#2515
this may be a dumb question but i have a remote start system installed on my car. will the wiring for the remote start interfere with the fic? i have no idea how the remote start is connected to the cars wiring but i do know there are 2 electronic units wired into something under the driver side foot-well.
12-16-2009, 03:53 AM
#2518
i have the dual gauge pod from them and its like an inch away from the window but flush with the frame(weather stripping covers both). Not sure about height since mine is only a foot long. Not perfect but the best out. I have a suede headliner and I suede'd the pod and it fits in very nice. If your spending 10k on this kit don't get it, it looks cheap since its black plastic and does not match the TL pillar. get something like these and bolt to a frame. Dont worry about bolting I had to bolt mine so if you get the one you are talking about bolts are required too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/52mm-...ht_3388wt_1253
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/52mm-...ht_3388wt_1253
12-16-2009, 04:42 AM
#2519
would this gauge pod fit the TL? maybe some minor cutting or bending?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT
12-16-2009, 04:46 AM
#2520
i have the dual gauge pod from them and its like an inch away from the window but flush with the frame(weather stripping covers both). Not sure about height since mine is only a foot long. Not perfect but the best out. I have a suede headliner and I suede'd the pod and it fits in very nice. If your spending 10k on this kit don't get it, it looks cheap since its black plastic and does not match the TL pillar. get something like these and bolt to a frame. Dont worry about bolting I had to bolt mine so if you get the one you are talking about bolts are required too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/52mm-...ht_3388wt_1253
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/52mm-...ht_3388wt_1253