Turbo Kit for Acura TL '04-'08
10-31-2009, 04:57 PM
#2241
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We have been running a 07 TL 6 speed in a Odyssey for a couple of years now with a j35 series turbo motor. At 325-350hp the transmission did fine. At 425 it blew 4th gear after about 1300 miles. At 532hp and 460ft lb's of torque 4th gear that was heat treated and shot peened ( how ever you spell it) did not last long at all. I have pictures if you would like. 4 times we blew 4th gear in 3 different transmissions. We are looking into other options. If you guys start pushing the power up around 400hp or so watch out. 4th gear will be the first thing to go. I found this thread last week after we blew our last transmission and was looking to see if anyone had the same issues and if they found a solution. If so I would love any and all info.
Paul Street
Honda Manufacturing of Alabama
Home of the world's fastest minivan!
Paul Street
Honda Manufacturing of Alabama
Home of the world's fastest minivan!
You wouldn't have happened to have driven that minvan in the 2006 or 2007 One Lap of America, have you? The van looks familiar. I remember the TL 6speed transmission and LSD. Great job with that
But, like I Hate Cars said, the TL is a little bit lighter and chances are most people won't do One Lap with their car so i think it should stand up a bit better. Still the only way to know for sure it to try it on a TL.
11-01-2009, 09:48 PM
#2245
Team Owner
Going on memory from like 50 pages back, it's a PTE bar and plate intercooler. Dual pass obviously. Should be ultra efficient for charge cooling. Looks like it would flow well into the 600whp area.
11-02-2009, 02:35 AM
#2248
you can pay in full anytime you want. a deposit just gets the ball rolling and says your committed to the purchase. i believe the deposits were set forth in order to get a solid idea of how many people would be committing to a full purchase. JandR didnt want to be manufacturing all the pipes and buying all the pieces for 25 kits only to have a few people fully commit to buying. if that happened they're stuck with extra kits just lying around and ultimately not making any money.
11-02-2009, 06:31 AM
#2249
I think they'll build on demand at this point. What I was told that once full payment was made, they would order parts on that basis with a 2-3 week lead time.
But only John or Rodney can verify this. They've been absent lately hopefully working on a drivetrain enhancement if/when we cook our clutches and tranny's.
But only John or Rodney can verify this. They've been absent lately hopefully working on a drivetrain enhancement if/when we cook our clutches and tranny's.
11-02-2009, 07:38 AM
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^ talked to Rodney Saturday............... He working like a slave to meet the promised delivery date...... I'm supposed to "pass" by the shop today so im sure he'll post up later today
You guys are lucky.....He keeps changing parts for better ones
You guys are lucky.....He keeps changing parts for better ones
11-02-2009, 09:02 AM
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^ not a problem. it actually gets annoying in a way....... its like a kid in a toy store, they'll always find a toy better than the other........... now he's changing the knock box to another better one and changing the piping so it can fit the 3G's with fogs so you dont have to fab anything........ im just waiting to see the first kit get boxed up for shipment......
11-02-2009, 09:49 AM
#2254
^ not a problem. it actually gets annoying in a way....... its like a kid in a toy store, they'll always find a toy better than the other........... now he's changing the knock box to another better one and changing the piping so it can fit the 3G's with fogs so you dont have to fab anything........ im just waiting to see the first kit get boxed up for shipment......
11-02-2009, 09:57 AM
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^ ..... i dont want to make promises i have no control over or miss-inform anyone.... he just texted after my first post telling me thanx for keeping you guys updated. i know the new piping is currently being worked on and the turbo's are getting coated. i'll see him today and i'll find out... cant text him back cuz this dumbass LG VU is giving me touch screen problems again.... time to bring out the ole Treo 650.
11-02-2009, 11:06 AM
#2256
^ ..... i dont want to make promises i have no control over or miss-inform anyone.... he just texted after my first post telling me thanx for keeping you guys updated. i know the new piping is currently being worked on and the turbo's are getting coated. i'll see him today and i'll find out... cant text him back cuz this dumbass LG VU is giving me touch screen problems again.... time to bring out the ole Treo 650.
11-03-2009, 01:27 PM
#2260
Team Owner
11-03-2009, 02:18 PM
#2263
So I bought mine car in 06... it's an 06... i thought I needed smog in 2010... you're saying not until 2012?
11-03-2009, 06:27 PM
#2265
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Did you get NGK IX because it's a colder plug? You should talk to Amsoil / Redline & get some sponsorship deal worked out.. 
11-03-2009, 10:31 PM
#2269
Safety Car
turbo gurus???? From those pics, it looks like you will become our turbo guru soon ! Looking forward to your success ! 
Regarding the bumper, I was thinking the same thing. That bumper is blocking way too much surface area. TAKE IT OFF !
I am comfortable with leaving my front bumper off. The lack of a front bumper might hamper safety to a small degree. But, think about it... how much protection is that bumper during a 60 MPH frontal collision ? The bulk of the protection comes from the design of the car body (pic below) and the aluminum front cradle. I am convinced (for my own sake) that the TL bumper is primarily a "5 MPH" bumper.
The government requires auto makers to have "5 MPH" bumpers on cars. This means that the car must survive a 5 MPH crash without exceeding a certain dollar value of damage.
SOURCE: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/proble...per/Index.html
1) What is a bumper?
A bumper is a shield made of steel, aluminum, rubber, or plastic that is mounted on the front and rear of a passenger car. When a low speed collision occurs, the bumper system absorbs the shock to prevent or reduce damage to the car. Some bumpers use energy absorbers or brackets and others are made with a foam cushioning material.
2) What is the purpose of bumpers?
The car bumper is designed to prevent or reduce physical damage to the front and rear ends of passenger motor vehicles in low-speed collisions. Automobile bumpers are not typically designed to be structural components that would significantly contribute to vehicle crashworthiness or occupant protection during front or rear collisions. It is not a safety feature intended to prevent or mitigate injury severity to occupants in the passenger cars. Bumpers are designed to protect the hood, trunk, grille, fuel, exhaust and cooling system as well as safety related equipment such as parking lights, headlamps and taillights in low speed collisions.
3) What are the Federal regulations for bumpers?
49 CFR Part 581, "The bumper standard," prescribes performance requirements for passenger cars in low-speed front and rear collisions. It applies to front and rear bumpers on passenger cars to prevent the damage to the car body and safety related equipment at barrier impact speeds of 2½ mph across the full width and 1½ mph on the corners.
This is equivalent to a 5 mph crash into a parked vehicle of the same weight. The standard requires protection in the region 16 to 20 inches above the road surface, and the manufacturer can provide the protection by any means it wants. For example, some vehicles do not have a solid bumper across the vehicle, but meet the standard by strategically placed bumper guards and corner guards.
4) Are all vehicle classes required to meet the Federal bumper standard?
No. The Federal bumper standard does not apply to vehicles other than passenger cars (i.e., sport utility vehicles (SUVs), minivans, or pickups trucks). The agency has chosen not to regulate bumper performance or elevation for these vehicle classes because of the potential compromise to the vehicle utility in operating on loading ramps and off road situations.
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This is interesting. This website is called "Is My Car Safe", http://ismycarsafe.com/bumpers.htm <---clickable link, and notice that they even highlighted (bold text) the following phrase:
"What is the purpose of bumpers? It is not a safety feature intended to prevent or mitigate injury severity to occupants in the passenger cars."
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SOURCE:
http://www.hondanews.com/search/release/2125
5 MPH BUMPERS
he Acura TL uses a highly efficient Xenoy thermoplastic energy absorber with a high-strength steel reinforcement beam that absorbs 80 percent of low-speed crash energy. This allowed designers to reduce the overhang of the bumper, while also reducing the weight and repair costs. Both the front and rear bumpers meet the federal government's damage-free regulation when tested at 5 mph.
Looking forward to your success ! Regarding the bumper, I was thinking the same thing. That bumper is blocking way too much surface area. TAKE IT OFF !
I am comfortable with leaving my front bumper off. The lack of a front bumper might hamper safety to a small degree. But, think about it... how much protection is that bumper during a 60 MPH frontal collision ? The bulk of the protection comes from the design of the car body (pic below) and the aluminum front cradle. I am convinced (for my own sake) that the TL bumper is primarily a "5 MPH" bumper.
The government requires auto makers to have "5 MPH" bumpers on cars. This means that the car must survive a 5 MPH crash without exceeding a certain dollar value of damage.
SOURCE: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/proble...per/Index.html
1) What is a bumper?
A bumper is a shield made of steel, aluminum, rubber, or plastic that is mounted on the front and rear of a passenger car. When a low speed collision occurs, the bumper system absorbs the shock to prevent or reduce damage to the car. Some bumpers use energy absorbers or brackets and others are made with a foam cushioning material.
2) What is the purpose of bumpers?
The car bumper is designed to prevent or reduce physical damage to the front and rear ends of passenger motor vehicles in low-speed collisions. Automobile bumpers are not typically designed to be structural components that would significantly contribute to vehicle crashworthiness or occupant protection during front or rear collisions. It is not a safety feature intended to prevent or mitigate injury severity to occupants in the passenger cars. Bumpers are designed to protect the hood, trunk, grille, fuel, exhaust and cooling system as well as safety related equipment such as parking lights, headlamps and taillights in low speed collisions.
3) What are the Federal regulations for bumpers?
49 CFR Part 581, "The bumper standard," prescribes performance requirements for passenger cars in low-speed front and rear collisions. It applies to front and rear bumpers on passenger cars to prevent the damage to the car body and safety related equipment at barrier impact speeds of 2½ mph across the full width and 1½ mph on the corners.
This is equivalent to a 5 mph crash into a parked vehicle of the same weight. The standard requires protection in the region 16 to 20 inches above the road surface, and the manufacturer can provide the protection by any means it wants. For example, some vehicles do not have a solid bumper across the vehicle, but meet the standard by strategically placed bumper guards and corner guards.
4) Are all vehicle classes required to meet the Federal bumper standard?
No. The Federal bumper standard does not apply to vehicles other than passenger cars (i.e., sport utility vehicles (SUVs), minivans, or pickups trucks). The agency has chosen not to regulate bumper performance or elevation for these vehicle classes because of the potential compromise to the vehicle utility in operating on loading ramps and off road situations.
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This is interesting. This website is called "Is My Car Safe", http://ismycarsafe.com/bumpers.htm <---clickable link, and notice that they even highlighted (bold text) the following phrase:
"What is the purpose of bumpers? It is not a safety feature intended to prevent or mitigate injury severity to occupants in the passenger cars."
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SOURCE:
http://www.hondanews.com/search/release/2125
5 MPH BUMPERS
he Acura TL uses a highly efficient Xenoy thermoplastic energy absorber with a high-strength steel reinforcement beam that absorbs 80 percent of low-speed crash energy. This allowed designers to reduce the overhang of the bumper, while also reducing the weight and repair costs. Both the front and rear bumpers meet the federal government's damage-free regulation when tested at 5 mph.
11-03-2009, 10:48 PM
#2270
Team Owner
11-04-2009, 03:23 PM
#2273
Three Wheelin'
turbo gurus???? From those pics, it looks like you will become our turbo guru soon ! Looking forward to your success !
Regarding the bumper, I was thinking the same thing. That bumper is blocking way too much surface area. TAKE IT OFF !
I am comfortable with leaving my front bumper off. The lack of a front bumper might hamper safety to a small degree. But, think about it... how much protection is that bumper during a 60 MPH frontal collision ? The bulk of the protection comes from the design of the car body (pic below) and the aluminum front cradle. I am convinced (for my own sake) that the TL bumper is primarily a "5 MPH" bumper.
The government requires auto makers to have "5 MPH" bumpers on cars. This means that the car must survive a 5 MPH crash without exceeding a certain dollar value of damage.
SOURCE: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/proble...per/Index.html
1) What is a bumper?
A bumper is a shield made of steel, aluminum, rubber, or plastic that is mounted on the front and rear of a passenger car. When a low speed collision occurs, the bumper system absorbs the shock to prevent or reduce damage to the car. Some bumpers use energy absorbers or brackets and others are made with a foam cushioning material.
2) What is the purpose of bumpers?
The car bumper is designed to prevent or reduce physical damage to the front and rear ends of passenger motor vehicles in low-speed collisions. Automobile bumpers are not typically designed to be structural components that would significantly contribute to vehicle crashworthiness or occupant protection during front or rear collisions. It is not a safety feature intended to prevent or mitigate injury severity to occupants in the passenger cars. Bumpers are designed to protect the hood, trunk, grille, fuel, exhaust and cooling system as well as safety related equipment such as parking lights, headlamps and taillights in low speed collisions.
3) What are the Federal regulations for bumpers?
49 CFR Part 581, "The bumper standard," prescribes performance requirements for passenger cars in low-speed front and rear collisions. It applies to front and rear bumpers on passenger cars to prevent the damage to the car body and safety related equipment at barrier impact speeds of 2½ mph across the full width and 1½ mph on the corners.
This is equivalent to a 5 mph crash into a parked vehicle of the same weight. The standard requires protection in the region 16 to 20 inches above the road surface, and the manufacturer can provide the protection by any means it wants. For example, some vehicles do not have a solid bumper across the vehicle, but meet the standard by strategically placed bumper guards and corner guards.
4) Are all vehicle classes required to meet the Federal bumper standard?
No. The Federal bumper standard does not apply to vehicles other than passenger cars (i.e., sport utility vehicles (SUVs), minivans, or pickups trucks). The agency has chosen not to regulate bumper performance or elevation for these vehicle classes because of the potential compromise to the vehicle utility in operating on loading ramps and off road situations.
---------------------------------
This is interesting. This website is called "Is My Car Safe", http://ismycarsafe.com/bumpers.htm <---clickable link, and notice that they even highlighted (bold text) the following phrase:
"What is the purpose of bumpers? It is not a safety feature intended to prevent or mitigate injury severity to occupants in the passenger cars."
--------------------------------
SOURCE:
http://www.hondanews.com/search/release/2125
5 MPH BUMPERS
he Acura TL uses a highly efficient Xenoy thermoplastic energy absorber with a high-strength steel reinforcement beam that absorbs 80 percent of low-speed crash energy. This allowed designers to reduce the overhang of the bumper, while also reducing the weight and repair costs. Both the front and rear bumpers meet the federal government's damage-free regulation when tested at 5 mph.
Looking forward to your success ! Regarding the bumper, I was thinking the same thing. That bumper is blocking way too much surface area. TAKE IT OFF !
I am comfortable with leaving my front bumper off. The lack of a front bumper might hamper safety to a small degree. But, think about it... how much protection is that bumper during a 60 MPH frontal collision ? The bulk of the protection comes from the design of the car body (pic below) and the aluminum front cradle. I am convinced (for my own sake) that the TL bumper is primarily a "5 MPH" bumper.
The government requires auto makers to have "5 MPH" bumpers on cars. This means that the car must survive a 5 MPH crash without exceeding a certain dollar value of damage.
SOURCE: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/proble...per/Index.html
1) What is a bumper?
A bumper is a shield made of steel, aluminum, rubber, or plastic that is mounted on the front and rear of a passenger car. When a low speed collision occurs, the bumper system absorbs the shock to prevent or reduce damage to the car. Some bumpers use energy absorbers or brackets and others are made with a foam cushioning material.
2) What is the purpose of bumpers?
The car bumper is designed to prevent or reduce physical damage to the front and rear ends of passenger motor vehicles in low-speed collisions. Automobile bumpers are not typically designed to be structural components that would significantly contribute to vehicle crashworthiness or occupant protection during front or rear collisions. It is not a safety feature intended to prevent or mitigate injury severity to occupants in the passenger cars. Bumpers are designed to protect the hood, trunk, grille, fuel, exhaust and cooling system as well as safety related equipment such as parking lights, headlamps and taillights in low speed collisions.
3) What are the Federal regulations for bumpers?
49 CFR Part 581, "The bumper standard," prescribes performance requirements for passenger cars in low-speed front and rear collisions. It applies to front and rear bumpers on passenger cars to prevent the damage to the car body and safety related equipment at barrier impact speeds of 2½ mph across the full width and 1½ mph on the corners.
This is equivalent to a 5 mph crash into a parked vehicle of the same weight. The standard requires protection in the region 16 to 20 inches above the road surface, and the manufacturer can provide the protection by any means it wants. For example, some vehicles do not have a solid bumper across the vehicle, but meet the standard by strategically placed bumper guards and corner guards.
4) Are all vehicle classes required to meet the Federal bumper standard?
No. The Federal bumper standard does not apply to vehicles other than passenger cars (i.e., sport utility vehicles (SUVs), minivans, or pickups trucks). The agency has chosen not to regulate bumper performance or elevation for these vehicle classes because of the potential compromise to the vehicle utility in operating on loading ramps and off road situations.
---------------------------------
This is interesting. This website is called "Is My Car Safe", http://ismycarsafe.com/bumpers.htm <---clickable link, and notice that they even highlighted (bold text) the following phrase:
"What is the purpose of bumpers? It is not a safety feature intended to prevent or mitigate injury severity to occupants in the passenger cars."
--------------------------------
SOURCE:
http://www.hondanews.com/search/release/2125
5 MPH BUMPERS
he Acura TL uses a highly efficient Xenoy thermoplastic energy absorber with a high-strength steel reinforcement beam that absorbs 80 percent of low-speed crash energy. This allowed designers to reduce the overhang of the bumper, while also reducing the weight and repair costs. Both the front and rear bumpers meet the federal government's damage-free regulation when tested at 5 mph.
11-04-2009, 04:45 PM
#2275
Team Owner
11-05-2009, 08:04 PM
#2276
since that filter is the "oversized" filter, does the engine need more then 4.5 quarts now? what about with the turbo. do you need more oil with the turbo?
i like the versus front bumper but thats not a priority right now. i spoke to rodney and he said that he hasnt had the bumper support on the car for a long time. plus he did the "shark mouth mod" also.
oh btw, i just recieved a shipping notice from paypal. faster then i thought
i like the versus front bumper but thats not a priority right now. i spoke to rodney and he said that he hasnt had the bumper support on the car for a long time. plus he did the "shark mouth mod" also.
oh btw, i just recieved a shipping notice from paypal. faster then i thought
11-05-2009, 10:55 PM
#2278
Safety Car
You better get that HD Camcorder this weekend. PLEASEEEEEE !
Please, please take the time to take many, many pics and vids.
.....don't make me whine and beg, because I will... and it won't be pretty 
If you need help posting pics, send me a PM. I will give you my email that you can send the pics and I will post them... all of them
If you can't tell, I am vicariously getting a turbo thru you.
11-05-2009, 11:06 PM
#2279
Safety Car
Same holds true for the trans cooler. The new cooler and hoses will need a lot of extra oil. I estimate 2 quarts just to fill the new cooler and hoses.
11-05-2009, 11:10 PM
#2280
Three Wheelin'
Man...fill up the crankcase with 4.5 qt...start it up...idle for a min, shut it off...wait 2 mins, check the level...add what it needs to reach max..now add this on top of 4.5 qt, and that will be ur new capacity