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Old 01-07-2012, 03:34 PM
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yeah i need shipping price to canada as well.
ecu+knock+wideband+12"harness=1565+shipping canada?
lmk.

mod: aem cai, rv6 jpipe.

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U sure about that? 12" will only go 1 ft. No way it will reach under either seat
Exactly what I was thinking too...can someone please confirm/clarify?
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Originally Posted by InFaMouSLink
Swoosh, Also ask him for a price on the Innovate LC1 with G3 gauge .

i think it looks wayyy better than the AEM one.
let me see....if he can get that....either way who is gonna use the gauge ?

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U sure about that? 12" will only go 1 ft. No way it will reach under either seat
12 feet....i think it was a typo, you can practically wire the ECU in the rear seat
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Originally Posted by Noober
yeah i need shipping price to canada as well.
ecu+knock+wideband+12"harness=1565+shipping canada?
lmk.

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Spoke to Rodney and since he is driving he asked me post....

Add $35 for shipping to Canada....you know if you guys move down to US you will save a ton of money

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Exactly what I was thinking too...can someone please confirm/clarify?
12 feet....
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Originally Posted by swoosh
Spoke to Rodney and since he is driving he asked me post....

Add $35 for shipping to Canada....you know if you guys move down to US you will save a ton of money



12 feet....
Haha yeah, wish I did.. And thanks! Ill send the money out Monday!
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waiting for invoice
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EDIT: Mods can you please reflect the changes to 1st post ? Thank you.
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which brand knock monitor is offered?
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I'm sorry, but can anyone tell me what is needed for just a base TL? (no mods)

I've been reading a little bit more since I haven't lately and most people say ECU is just ok without the knock sensor?

Sorry I've been drinking and will be drinking more tonight cause the TEXANS WON YAYAYAYAYSAYSUAOSOUSAAS
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Originally Posted by Noober
Haha yeah, wish I did.. And thanks! Ill send the money out Monday!
sounds good to me....

Originally Posted by Joey tl
waiting for invoice
will have Rodney send out an invoice....but u can just send money to the paypal address right ? plus shipping for Canada is $35 more, just FYI

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Done.
you da manggg

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Waiting for Fuel pump assembly price.
I wont post the price as its the "vendor"'s responsibility...so will have Rodney post it up when he gets to where he is driving LOL

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which brand knock monitor is offered?
will confirm from Rodney and post it up....

EDIT: just called him: its a JnR knock monitor made to spec with MS3...it will come pre-configured, just plug and play

Originally Posted by TheChamp531
I'm sorry, but can anyone tell me what is needed for just a base TL? (no mods)

I've been reading a little bit more since I haven't lately and most people say ECU is just ok without the knock sensor?

Sorry I've been drinking and will be drinking more tonight cause the TEXANS WON YAYAYAYAYSAYSUAOSOUSAAS
hahaha you cool....

but yeah you can just get the ECU and call it a day

i would suggest knock monitor and longer harness (to the minimum) but thats totally upto you



ok am gonna make an excel sheet with all the mods per username....so that there will be mistakes in the orders and the payments....will post up in the next few minutes...
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I may buy some exhaust mods soon (RV6 Jpipe - exhaust & pcd) will programming the ECU for those mods when I don't have the mods (yet)-- will that cause a problem with my stuff?
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^^^ just gonna ask this very thing...I don't have catback exhaust yet, but will later, should I just say I do and the premapped tune will be fine? How far off would the stock exhaust tune be from the catback exhaust be? Better yet, what parameters can I change myself to adjust for a catback?
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question? where would i install the wideband 02 sensor, i have rv6 HFCD, rv6 v3 j-pipe and atlp exhaust?

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^^^ good question, but from what's been posted I think you're SOL on installing a wideband for ANY type of cat...you need the primary cats removed (PCDs) in order to properly install one. But besides that, unless you simply cannot live without it, you really don't need it for your mods...I have PCDs and jpipe and I will *not* be installing one...
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any wideband sensor comes before any cats... so if no cats then the best place to put a wideband is right before the caching on the Jpipes.. or right after if you do not have the true dual exhaust.. if the RV63 Jpipe and True Dual then at the X/split before the two pipes.. however for most people the Jpipe works.. that is where I have my bunghole

now the question is for folks with High flow precats.. do you put them at the top where OEM is and worry about over heating? or can you still put them after on the jpipe or straight pipe?

side note everytime I see bunghole i think of beavis and butthead...

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FYI - I dont have all my mods done but they are getting done.. going to use every day to narrow down everything before January 31st so I can get the GB price!

thanks very much to Rodney for being a mad scientist... and Swoosh for being the pitchman for a great product
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
I may buy some exhaust mods soon (RV6 Jpipe - exhaust & pcd) will programming the ECU for those mods when I don't have the mods (yet)-- will that cause a problem with my stuff?
The map is nothing but an excel sheet and we members need to communicate

Detailed Solution: if you have a Base MT with RV6 PCDS/JPIPE/Exhaust and i have a Base MT....we have different maps right now, down the line if i get a full exhaust you can prolly email me your map and i can put that in my ECU....and voila am tuned

Originally Posted by the fenda rolla
^^^ just gonna ask this very thing...I don't have catback exhaust yet, but will later, should I just say I do and the premapped tune will be fine? How far off would the stock exhaust tune be from the catback exhaust be? Better yet, what parameters can I change myself to adjust for a catback?
yes you tune will be fine but to squeeze out more power you will need to retune it....

you can retune it by taking it to a performance shop or by asking someone to email you the base map as i mentioned above

Originally Posted by Joey tl
question? where would i install the wideband 02 sensor, i have rv6 HFCD, rv6 v3 j-pipe and atlp exhaust?
yes as Feji said, the wideband has to be put BEFORE any cats....i would suggest leaving the Wideband and just taping the input from the OEM O2 sensor....

Originally Posted by the fenda rolla
^^^ good question, but from what's been posted I think you're SOL on installing a wideband for ANY type of cat...you need the primary cats removed (PCDs) in order to properly install one. But besides that, unless you simply cannot live without it, you really don't need it for your mods...I have PCDs and jpipe and I will *not* be installing one...
Originally Posted by FCVadi
any wideband sensor comes before any cats... so if no cats then the best place to put a wideband is right before the caching on the Jpipes.. or right after if you do not have the true dual exhaust.. if the RV63 Jpipe and True Dual then at the X/split before the two pipes.. however for most people the Jpipe works.. that is where I have my bunghole

now the question is for folks with High flow precats.. do you put them at the top where OEM is and worry about over heating? or can you still put them after on the jpipe or straight pipe?

side note everytime I see bunghole i think of beavis and butthead...

Beavis's alter-ego..The master of all that is toilet paper..do you have TP for his bunghole?
I AM Cornholio! I NEED TP FOR BUNGHOLE!!
^^^ ur friggin funny LOL....

on a serious note, yes you can tap/get the input from the OEM O2 sensor....its narrowband and wont work as well but well better than throwing a bung in a $600 HFC

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FYI - I dont have all my mods done but they are getting done.. going to use every day to narrow down everything before January 31st so I can get the GB price!

thanks very much to Rodney for being a mad scientist... and Swoosh for being the pitchman for a great product
no problem bro....

btw as i said, we can email maps back and forth....so if you get this ECU now and a full exhaust later, you can have someone with the exhaust send you a map....
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help me fill out this excel guys:



I, Anil Sadhwani, swear that i have filled out the excel to the best of my knowledge

anyway tried to be my best, if I typed in something wrong CORRECT ME and if there is no info entered then let me know and i will update this spreadsheet....
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do we need to state how much our mods are bored out? meaning IM, TB, Runners.. and also the MDX Spacer along with other items in the Intake area to Runners? the OEM size I beleive for the TB is 64mm (I have a few items at 70mm )

Also do we need to state the size of exhaust? i will be getting a 3inch exhuast for future plans

I know we can tweak afterwards but wasnt sure if to maximize intial performance and csat it was needed
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and how do we edit the excel spreadsheet? when I click it opens up as a picture
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Originally Posted by FCVadi
do we need to state how much our mods are bored out? meaning IM, TB, Runners.. and also the MDX Spacer along with other items in the Intake area to Runners? the OEM size I beleive for the TB is 64mm (I have a few items at 70mm )

Also do we need to state the size of exhaust? i will be getting a 3inch exhuast for future plans

I know we can tweak afterwards but wasnt sure if to maximize intial performance and csat it was needed
see the bottom line would be how much air your pumping in and how quickly your exhaust is moving.....

for all i see is, bored TB = 70-72mm right now (am planning on 80 down the line but we will see )....i would suggest listing what you have now and rolling with it....once you have all the other mods installed then take it to a dyno and tune it or get the efi software for $69 and let it tune ur car itself....

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and how do we edit the excel spreadsheet? when I click it opens up as a picture
it is a picture....i cudnt upload a xls file

you can PM me the details and will update it....
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Swoosh, sorry, you kinda confused me there. If the ECU is coming pre-programmed with the mods that I have, what does that have to do with an Excel sheet? I was asking if I had the ECU programmed for exhaust mods, but I don't actually have them yet, what would happen?
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consider this:

your car: 06 BASE 6MT MODS: Intake/PCD's
my car: 06 BASE 6MT MODS: Intake/PCD's/Jpipe/Catback

We will have 2 different base maps. each of our ECU's will come loaded with the base map. Your will be tuned to stock exhaust, mine to aftermarket exhaust....

Now when you buy a jpipe + catback, we have similar mods, and I can mail you my base map, which will OVER WRITE your base map.....and hence you will be "tuned" for the new exhaust components....

still ?
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good idea swoosh, good shitttt !
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Wouldn't I have to bring it to a Tuner to get that base map placed? I'm trying to minimize cost so I can save up for the Turbo and other things.

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Originally Posted by Noober
good idea swoosh, good shitttt !


Originally Posted by TheChamp531
Wouldn't I have to bring it to a Tuner to get that base map placed? I'm trying to minimize cost so I can save up for the Turbo and other things.

Swoosh your activity is 100%. NERD !
lol....i work on the computer all day so keep and eye on Azine

let me double check with Rodney....as far as am aware you can connect ur lappy to the ECU and tune the ECU.....about the software on the lappy i think it should come with the ECU but again I will need to confirm with Rodney....
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
Wouldn't I have to bring it to a Tuner to get that base map placed? I'm trying to minimize cost so I can save up for the Turbo and other things.

Swoosh your activity is 100%. NERD !
Don't need to bring anything to a tuner, you can easily change maps all by yourself. Just upload it to the J&R ecu from your computer and you're good to go. This ecu, like flash pro, k-pro, Cobb, is completely end-user friendly. I myself will not be taking mine to any tuner as I am fully capable doing this myself. Now if I wanted everything knats ass on, then I would get it pro tuned...
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^^^ thanks for posting that bro....reinforces what i know
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P.S. Can we get some pictures of the product we're purchasing?
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Oh ok, thanks sorry I've never tuned a car with any ECU. I'm used to the old school American muscle without all the stupid electronics
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
Oh ok, thanks sorry I've never tuned a car with any ECU. I'm used to the old school American muscle without all the stupid electronics
No prob! And you mean all these stupid electronics that's getting you an extra 20+ hp/torque? Oh ok, just checkin'...lol.
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I experience the same sort of startup issue and I haven't tried it in the cold yet, this was in the warmer weather. Seems to need to crank for a couple seconds then fires right up.

I felt the same experience going from the FIC to the J&R. Night and day difference how the car woke up and was so responsive.
well in the warmer weather the car started fine if I did the three cycle with the key which Rodney showed me! but If I just turned key and started it in warm weather it would crank for a bit and then fire up no issues while in Florida and the warm weather, but once I got up here and I mean really cold weather like below 20degrees and the first day I got back was 9degrees it took a long time whether it was cycled 3x or not! but I already have spoken Rodney and I should be getting the adjusts map soon!

but yeah difference for me was def night and day!!!

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great review, boston. thanks!

so you said you experienced knock/lag and it had to be tweaked on the road? is it safe to assume that the rest of us will have that issue as well?

also the cold starts where you have to crank it for 5 minutes...? no thanks. what is the story behind that? kinda' worries me a little.

happy to hear that rodney will be going to bat for us 5AT guys with the governor removal and hopefully more. very interested in that feature.

again, thanks for the thourough review!
yes but I am assuming since I was first to get this on the TypeS that the map you get will be the most corrected one that I have after it has been fixed!

Also with the starting goes the same as I am getting this corrected as well, and like Swoosh said if whatever reason you have a different map set-up from me and I am not having issues that you are for example we send a map to someone who has same set-up..... And at end of day worse case scenario if it is so bad you email/call Rodney and tell him what is going with your set-up snd unplug your JnR unit and plug stock ecu only until you get new update!

Originally Posted by SharksBreath
can those settings be tweaked BEFORE sending out the ECU? or is it something i'd have to go to a shop for after i install it?
yes as my starting issue is being tweaked and sent to my via email and i can just upload to the ecu thru a laptop!!

Originally Posted by KN_TL
Just a PC to change the parms. Nothing else unless you want to.

The difference in Boca Raton vs here is drastic so I expect things like that.
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If you look here, it explains how the startup is handled.

http://www.msextra.com/doc/ms2extra/...htm#start_idle

As Inacc points out, all of these settings are based on the current coolant temperature so it could be a long process.

It would also be difficult for Rodney to setup a cold crank at my possible coldest day of -30F when he doesn't see anything close to that.
exactly couldnt agree more....as when I was down there I asked Rodney will I have issues with cold weather and he didnt expect issues but then again the coldest weather they get is usually low 40s with rare occasion where it dips into 30s...as here where i am goes to 0degrees or single digits often...but I did not this only happens early in the morning on very cold mornings and only when car has been sitting overnight! the rest of day I have no real issues starting and it fires up after one 3x cycles or one cycle of a extended crank and it starts.... but once car starts it does not have no issues


also i will be uploading done dyno videos within next couple of minutes so standby
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Or you can buy old muscle and already have that power available with a V8.
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P.S. Can we get some pictures of the product we're purchasing?
Rodney is gonna mail me the pix and i will put em up
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
Or you can buy old muscle and already have that power available with a V8.
^^^ truth right there...minus the handling, braking, and heated seats....oops, i got rid of those too!
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Hey swoosh, could you post some pics of the software and parameter tables too? Thanks bro!
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^^^

but american muscle cant go round a track
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