Group Buy for JnR ECU - Dyno's/Gains (12/23); Prices Posted (1/7)
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^^^ i might try to do that....
i gotta do a before and after with MDX spacer and before and after with butterfly delete.....
i gotta do a before and after with MDX spacer and before and after with butterfly delete.....
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swoosh, can you post that excel sheet so we can see everything laid out and updated...and also to see who still has to pay for this.
so if rodney gets at least 10 orders paid, he can start shipping? otherwise we wait until the first of the month?
so if rodney gets at least 10 orders paid, he can start shipping? otherwise we wait until the first of the month?
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Anil/Rodney- I updated the first post.
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Thanks bro....
Sharky am trying to update the spreadsheet....I see only 9 payments so far....
Thanks bro....
Sharky am trying to update the spreadsheet....I see only 9 payments so far....
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yeah, its gonna be between you and Alex....
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^^^ here is the link to FREEEEE software for ur lappy....
http://www.tunerstudio.com/index.php/downloads
http://www.tunerstudio.com/index.php/downloads
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not sure of the difference bro....but yeah will have to find out....
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The free version will run everything ,this paid version is used with 02 feedback which can self tune car when set up correctly or it can also suggest maps .....
So again you do not need the paid version of tuner studio
The Ecu is a plug and play unit preprogrammed for all model TL or TypeS ,auto or manual upgraded or ,base maps will be uploaded in all Ecu according to mods specified with orders..........
There is no wiring required to unit as for people with 02 wideband there will be a labeled wire 02 that will accept input from innovative or aem ect ........
Theres no trans control or extra wire to wire up in mid 2012 we will go ahead and venture into trans control for people who will be wanting this but has nothing to do with current Ecu ,if all goes well it would be a total different unit to control transmission and shifting ect ...
A wideband is not necessary as your local Dyno shop will have all this if you opt to fine tune Ecu or just run it on Dyno to get numbers of whp ect ..For boosted applications thats when we absolutely recommend a wideband ,
We also do not recommend tring to tune the car or change settings without a tuner or someone with tuning knowledge ,of course for street tuners a wideband will be necessary..hope this clears up any questions ..
So again you do not need the paid version of tuner studio
The Ecu is a plug and play unit preprogrammed for all model TL or TypeS ,auto or manual upgraded or ,base maps will be uploaded in all Ecu according to mods specified with orders..........
There is no wiring required to unit as for people with 02 wideband there will be a labeled wire 02 that will accept input from innovative or aem ect ........
Theres no trans control or extra wire to wire up in mid 2012 we will go ahead and venture into trans control for people who will be wanting this but has nothing to do with current Ecu ,if all goes well it would be a total different unit to control transmission and shifting ect ...
A wideband is not necessary as your local Dyno shop will have all this if you opt to fine tune Ecu or just run it on Dyno to get numbers of whp ect ..For boosted applications thats when we absolutely recommend a wideband ,
We also do not recommend tring to tune the car or change settings without a tuner or someone with tuning knowledge ,of course for street tuners a wideband will be necessary..hope this clears up any questions ..
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So just to get this straight, we absolutely need an O2 wideband in order for Tuner Studio to tune the ECU for us? So the FREE version is absolutely useless if we want it to self-tune?
BTW, payment sent...
BTW, payment sent...
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http://www.efianalytics.com/TunerStudio/
But the short answer is yes and yes
Think about it, if there is no feedback, how does it know what to base the tune against?
If you going to a tuner and they are just tweaking the settings, then you can use the free version. However, it is likely they have their own laptop to do the changes.
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^^^ thanks for the answer Rodney and Kn_TL...
Yes the free version is used to tuning via laptop and $50 version is for automatically tuning the MS3
Yes the free version is used to tuning via laptop and $50 version is for automatically tuning the MS3
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^^^ defoulers are only used by PCD crowd....
and how is MS3 gonna get the oem O2 signal ?
also sorry about the other day, completely forgot to text u.....you got PM
and how is MS3 gonna get the oem O2 signal ?
also sorry about the other day, completely forgot to text u.....you got PM
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There is also no way that I can see where the stock ECU has an analog output suitable for the MS3 to use. The only option would be to install it next to the stock sensor and finding one that can handle the extreme temperature. I suppose a defouler could be installed to get it out of the direct path of the exhaust.
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^^^ fawk this MS3 is offering wayyyy to much.....
cant handle all that info....system overload
cant handle all that info....system overload
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Not that any of us turbo guys aren't using a wideband o2 setup, but the turbo kit also has built in defoulers. That said, I'm pretty sure I have seen a AFR value displayed on the dash dyno, no doubt the o2 reading is off but I think its able to read the oem o2 sensors. I will check it out.
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Not that any of us turbo guys aren't using a wideband o2 setup, but the turbo kit also has built in defoulers. That said, I'm pretty sure I have seen a AFR value displayed on the dash dyno, no doubt the o2 reading is off but I think its able to read the oem o2 sensors. I will check it out.
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^^^ yes i read (prolly ur comment) that you could connect the OEM sensor to the MS3....Inaccurate said you cudnt....
am still not sure if you could...
am still not sure if you could...
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Inacc went through a lot of research with regard to fooling the stock ECU to prevent timing pulls and monitoring knock and A/F. It was first thought that like other automobiles that it was using narrowband sensors but later found that they were indeed wideband and not industry standard.
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^^^ you bet....
as i have mentioned before, if Inaccurate says "piss in your gas tank and you will gain 23HP", i would....without researching.....
as i have mentioned before, if Inaccurate says "piss in your gas tank and you will gain 23HP", i would....without researching.....
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I am curious though if you can remove the OEM sensor and put a Bosch sensor in there... both are wideband.. not sure the output of the sensors and also what type of controller the OEM is using... I am just thinking outside the box on this one... the size of the two widebands look to be about the same.. need to pull out the books.. annoying part is I am at the inlaws for the weekend and the books are at home
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Sorry for the questions, just need a little more clarity...sorry if this has been beaten to death...