2007+ MERGED THREAD, SPECS ARE NOW ON PAGE 1, POST #1
#2161
Three Wheelin'
Originally Posted by italia8287
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../60808002/1024
its got pictures of the 2007 TL type s and just the TL. hope this isnt old already.
its got pictures of the 2007 TL type s and just the TL. hope this isnt old already.
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#2162
Here's another article.. looks like its rephrased though. Nothing we dont already know.
Source: Winding Road
Acura To Refresh TL For 2007,
Add Type-S
Acura is giving the Type S treatment to its popular TL lineup for 2007.
A revamped TL is slated to make the rounds this autumn, but for the first time ever, Acura is bringing along a new performance model with it. As is the way with other like-named Acuras, a modest power bump and understated aesthetic upgrades accompanies the Type-S designation.
In this case, the TL’s V-6 gets a .3-liter displacement bump (to 3.5 liters), which works out to 286 horsepower and 256 lb.-ft of torque – garden-variety models make do with a 3.2-liter V-6 good for 258 brake horsepower and 233 lb.-ft. The five-speed automatic with manual override has also been programmed to blip the throttle on downshifts.
(More details and insight after the jump!)
The suspension has been tightened up, and a different wheel/tire pairing help emphasize the more sporting mission of the Type-S, and the styling is marked-out by a mesh grille, four exhaust outlets, a modest spoiler, and various badges (a 2006-model TL is shown).
Inside, stainless pedals, sportier seats, and carbon fiber trim bits let owner and passenger alike know that they aren’t in just any TL.
Pricing and complete specifications aren’t available yet, but Royal Ford at the Boston Globe has the upper end of the TL’s lineup pegged at around $39k for model year 2007, so it’s a safe bet that the Type-S will base in that vicinity.
Interestingly Acura’s flagship RL has struggled to find buyers at its $49k asking price, and hefty discounts have ensued. Transaction prices for the 290 horsepower all-wheel drive sedan are hovering just above the TL Type-S’ projected price point, at around $43,500. While the RL is outwardly less sporting than the latter, it will be interesting to see if any inter-showroom competition results.
Source: Winding Road
Acura To Refresh TL For 2007,
Add Type-S
Acura is giving the Type S treatment to its popular TL lineup for 2007.
A revamped TL is slated to make the rounds this autumn, but for the first time ever, Acura is bringing along a new performance model with it. As is the way with other like-named Acuras, a modest power bump and understated aesthetic upgrades accompanies the Type-S designation.
In this case, the TL’s V-6 gets a .3-liter displacement bump (to 3.5 liters), which works out to 286 horsepower and 256 lb.-ft of torque – garden-variety models make do with a 3.2-liter V-6 good for 258 brake horsepower and 233 lb.-ft. The five-speed automatic with manual override has also been programmed to blip the throttle on downshifts.
(More details and insight after the jump!)
The suspension has been tightened up, and a different wheel/tire pairing help emphasize the more sporting mission of the Type-S, and the styling is marked-out by a mesh grille, four exhaust outlets, a modest spoiler, and various badges (a 2006-model TL is shown).
Inside, stainless pedals, sportier seats, and carbon fiber trim bits let owner and passenger alike know that they aren’t in just any TL.
Pricing and complete specifications aren’t available yet, but Royal Ford at the Boston Globe has the upper end of the TL’s lineup pegged at around $39k for model year 2007, so it’s a safe bet that the Type-S will base in that vicinity.
Interestingly Acura’s flagship RL has struggled to find buyers at its $49k asking price, and hefty discounts have ensued. Transaction prices for the 290 horsepower all-wheel drive sedan are hovering just above the TL Type-S’ projected price point, at around $43,500. While the RL is outwardly less sporting than the latter, it will be interesting to see if any inter-showroom competition results.
#2163
Originally Posted by bob shiftright
Any guess about price?
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(I like the brake-dust colored wheels!)
(I like the brake-dust colored wheels!)
...but those wheels still suck.
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#2164
Originally Posted by Mike_TX
I think they look like brown shoes with a tuxedo (to borrow from George Gobel). If the rest of the trim weren't nice bright shiny chrome and aluminum, they might look better, but they kinda look like a mismatch to me ... ![Shrug](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif)
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Agreed. It looks stupid as is. Almost wanna-be rice-burner feel.
Wheels would work on it if the front grill and all the chrome were matched charcoal color. It would actually look pretty cool that way!
#2165
Originally Posted by Moving Target
You know, the blue is actually starting to grow on me...
...but those wheels still suck.![Yuck](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/yuck.gif)
...but those wheels still suck.
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I thought that the blue was growing on me too, but as I looked back at the early posts, I think that the most recent pictures may just be of better quality. The early pictures from the Boston Globe still look like some kind of possessed electric blue
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#2167
Originally Posted by invincible569
I think you are the only one.
But I could have better things to do with my time on Sunday morning than to clean alloy wheels. Sleep, maybe? The Crossword Puzzle?
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This is likely a moot point since I have doubts that the Type S is going on the deep-discount table right out of the gate, if at all.
My guess now is it will be priced close enough to a 335i to give one pause.
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Originally Posted by bob shiftright
Quite possibly.
But I could have better things to do with my time on Sunday morning than to clean alloy wheels. Sleep, maybe? The Crossword Puzzle?
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This is likely a moot point since I have doubts that the Type S is going on the deep-discount table right out of the gate, if at all.
My guess now is it will be priced close enough to a 335i to give one pause.
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Thanks for answering the question abou the rearview camera. Hopefully it can be retrofitted by the dealer on my 06'.
I think the powercoated rims will look nicer in person or in motion. I remember thinking the new S2000 rims were ugly but after seeing them in person I changed my mind.
I think the powercoated rims will look nicer in person or in motion. I remember thinking the new S2000 rims were ugly but after seeing them in person I changed my mind.
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Originally Posted by Vietnastee
I like the 07 red/clear tailights better than the new Type S ones.
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If I were to pick up a Type-S, I would be doing a lot of small changes (tail lights, wheels, body kit). I basically just want the new nav, new colors, and new engine.
#2172
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Originally Posted by Moving Target
You know, the blue is actually starting to grow on me...
...but those wheels still suck.![Yuck](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/yuck.gif)
...but those wheels still suck.
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#2173
Instructor
Is it just me or are the exhaust tips different on the '07 TL base? I like the old ones better, and I can't tell if the corners of the rear bumper still have that shaved corner affect or are they curved now? Anyone?
#2174
I love cars!
Originally Posted by vtec 6300
Type-S has 28 more horsepower and 25 more lbs of torque and the Type-S curb weight is over 100 more pounds than the base TL, I don't think the performance difference will be all that different or even noticeable.
#2175
Instructor
I don't see what all the hype is about nav traffic... I mean it IS cool, but I'm sure as heck not going to spend $2000 to upgrade my 06 TL's trunk unit (assuming that will even be possible) to get it, when I can get graphical traffic reports that are just as good on my Verizon phone for $4 / mo.
#2176
AcurAdmirer
Originally Posted by redman042
I don't see what all the hype is about nav traffic... I mean it IS cool, but I'm sure as heck not going to spend $2000 to upgrade my 06 TL's trunk unit (assuming that will even be possible) to get it, when I can get graphical traffic reports that are just as good on my Verizon phone for $4 / mo.
My local AM station gives a live traffic report every 8 minutes ("Traffic on the 8's"), and it's real-time reports, not stale ones that have been processed through 2 or 3 agencies before getting transmitted to the Nav. So especially during rush hour, it's no sweat to catch the news and get frequent traffic updates.
I love technology, but NavTraffic is still half-baked and I personally wouldn't pay the extra to have it. Maybe later on when it gets better ...
Just my own opinion.
#2177
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Originally Posted by havenlock
agreed.
If I were to pick up a Type-S, I would be doing a lot of small changes (tail lights, wheels, body kit). I basically just want the new nav, new colors, and new engine.
If I were to pick up a Type-S, I would be doing a lot of small changes (tail lights, wheels, body kit). I basically just want the new nav, new colors, and new engine.
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I have traffic with my Cobra nav 4500 w/Clear Channel traffic and is OK. Sometimes it shows traffic that has been cleaered up from about 1/2 hr ago. The same goes for the XM on the RL on my friends car, the delay is redicolous. The thing about my cobra nav, is that I get to update the software on it every few months. They are even deploying of where they have the speed trap cameras, stop light camera, and moving cameras in busy intersection (so you get warning before you approch them). I paid $60 a year and XM is $14 a month. XM is more $ and it recieves the same data from local towers. I hate the fact that they push XM and you don't have a choice of what service you want. In the near future this service would be free and much better, not from XM. XM is deploying the empty parking spaces at shopping malls and parking lots. Just another way for people to subscribe to XM and pay the $10 a month and then $4 traffic $3parking spot, etc...Traffic nav shouldn't be a reason to opt the more $.
#2179
Originally Posted by Mike_TX
I can't disagree. Most people who have used NavTraffic have reported that it's not that hot. Problem is usually that it isn't up-to-date ans sometimes just flat inaccurate.
My local AM station gives a live traffic report every 8 minutes ("Traffic on the 8's"), and it's real-time reports, not stale ones that have been processed through 2 or 3 agencies before getting transmitted to the Nav. So especially during rush hour, it's no sweat to catch the news and get frequent traffic updates.
I love technology, but NavTraffic is still half-baked and I personally wouldn't pay the extra to have it. Maybe later on when it gets better ...
Just my own opinion.
My local AM station gives a live traffic report every 8 minutes ("Traffic on the 8's"), and it's real-time reports, not stale ones that have been processed through 2 or 3 agencies before getting transmitted to the Nav. So especially during rush hour, it's no sweat to catch the news and get frequent traffic updates.
I love technology, but NavTraffic is still half-baked and I personally wouldn't pay the extra to have it. Maybe later on when it gets better ...
Just my own opinion.
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#2180
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Originally Posted by subspace100
I think you mean traffic updates every 10 minutes. ![Wink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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#2181
Originally Posted by fast-tl
I think you underestimate the effect of that horsepower. Our 5 hp go-kart will carry my 180lbs plus my 8 year old adn 4 year old with no problem. 5 times that horsepower should certainly be noticeable.
Power to weight ratio mate.
#2183
Originally Posted by Mike_TX
I can't disagree. Most people who have used NavTraffic have reported that it's not that hot. Problem is usually that it isn't up-to-date ans sometimes just flat inaccurate.
My local AM station gives a live traffic report every 8 minutes ("Traffic on the 8's"), and it's real-time reports, not stale ones that have been processed through 2 or 3 agencies before getting transmitted to the Nav. So especially during rush hour, it's no sweat to catch the news and get frequent traffic updates.
I love technology, but NavTraffic is still half-baked and I personally wouldn't pay the extra to have it. Maybe later on when it gets better ...
Just my own opinion.
My local AM station gives a live traffic report every 8 minutes ("Traffic on the 8's"), and it's real-time reports, not stale ones that have been processed through 2 or 3 agencies before getting transmitted to the Nav. So especially during rush hour, it's no sweat to catch the news and get frequent traffic updates.
I love technology, but NavTraffic is still half-baked and I personally wouldn't pay the extra to have it. Maybe later on when it gets better ...
Just my own opinion.
#2184
Originally Posted by Mike_TX
Hmmm ... I actually think they do it every 8 minutes, but I could be wrong. I'll listen Monday and get back to you ... ![Roll Eyes](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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#2186
What would you do???
I have a 2004 TL with no nav. Would you...
1) Buy a 2006 TL with NAV for $31,500
2) Buy a 2007 TL with NAV for more money
3) Buy a 2007 Lexus ES350
I cannot decide what to do. Please give me your opinion.
1) Buy a 2006 TL with NAV for $31,500
2) Buy a 2007 TL with NAV for more money
3) Buy a 2007 Lexus ES350
I cannot decide what to do. Please give me your opinion.
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Originally Posted by Stu's2004TL
I have a 2004 TL with no nav. Would you...
1) Buy a 2006 TL with NAV for $31,500
2) Buy a 2007 TL with NAV for more money
3) Buy a 2007 Lexus ES350
I cannot decide what to do. Please give me your opinion.![Confused](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
1) Buy a 2006 TL with NAV for $31,500
2) Buy a 2007 TL with NAV for more money
3) Buy a 2007 Lexus ES350
I cannot decide what to do. Please give me your opinion.
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#2188
Originally Posted by lscld
It depends. Do you want more of a sporty , performance oriented ride, or a luxury more cushy ride? (I havn't myself driven an ES, just going off what I've read from people who have). If it were me, I'd go with an '06 TL w/ navi.
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#2189
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Originally Posted by BG74
Totally agreed...NavTraffic was a great idea in promise, but won't be in practice with any kind of accuracy for at least 5 years.
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Originally Posted by dr_rags
It is 10 minutes... for example 10:08, 10:18, 10:28, 10:38, 10:48, 10:58. And if you are in the NY metro the channel in 880 AM. ![Rock On](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rockon.gif)
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Originally Posted by Stu's2004TL
I have a 2004 TL with no nav. Would you...
1) Buy a 2006 TL with NAV for $31,500
2) Buy a 2007 TL with NAV for more money
3) Buy a 2007 Lexus ES350
I cannot decide what to do. Please give me your opinion.![Confused](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
1) Buy a 2006 TL with NAV for $31,500
2) Buy a 2007 TL with NAV for more money
3) Buy a 2007 Lexus ES350
I cannot decide what to do. Please give me your opinion.
![Confused](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
#2193
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Originally Posted by dr_rags
It is 10 minutes... for example 10:08, 10:18, 10:28, 10:38, 10:48, 10:58. And if you are in the NY metro the channel in 880 AM. ![Rock On](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rockon.gif)
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I was deciding between the '06 Acura TL and the '07 Lexus ES350 when I was car shopping awhile back. I looked at the TL first and then went to the Lexus dealership afterwards. While I was at the Lexus dealership, the exterior styling of the ES350 did nothing for me as it looked boring or not very sporty as compared to the TL so I ultimately bought the TL. One thing that I do like is the L-Finesse styling, it is very sleek looking.
#2197
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Originally Posted by BBoz
Interesting that everything points to that being a type-S from what we have seen here, but the exhausts are the same as the base model. No quad exhausts as reported. ![Ponder](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/ponder.gif)
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Those spy pics are of the base TL.....if you have seen the pics on Auto Week they are of the quad exhaust TL-S...