Originally Posted by csk

I still can't find confirmation on fwd or awd but I'm guessing since it's not listed anywhere it's probably not awd........

Originally Posted by invincible569

Originally Posted by Acuraboy7

Nav standard!!! WTF thats so wrong i don't want nav they suck, I suppose i gotta pay extra for that now ughhh I'll never use it

Originally Posted by Acuraboy7

I'm so pissed why the hell does nav have to be standard, thats so stupid some people so do not need nav, they are crazy i don't care if i have to pay extra I'm going to custom order one with out it...they are screwing them selves by giving that to people standard

Originally Posted by invincible569

What is Active Noise Cancellation which only comes in the Type S?

Originally Posted by Acura98TL

Looks like for some reason Acura yanked the new TL information off of their Acura.com page.....I wonder why?????????

Originally Posted by TOV

5-Speed Automatic Transmission

* All-new compact design w/ high torque capacity
* More compact, closer to engine
* Sequential SportShift re-programmed to allow quicker, more positive downshifts and upshifts (Type-S only)
* Improved coordination between Drive-by-Wire™ throttle system and transmission makes for smoother shifts
* Steering wheel-mounted F1®–style Sequential SportShift Paddle Shifters (Type-S only)
* External transmission fluid cooler (Type-S only)
* Advanced shift-hold control limits up-shift during spirited driving
* Advanced Grade Logic Control System reduces gear "hunting" when driving on steep hills
* Linear solenoid direct-acting control reduces shift shock and improves smoothness
* Lockup torque converter design for superior fuel economy

5-SPEED SEQUENTIAL SPORTSHIFT AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION


Both the TL and TL Type-S receive an all-new 5-speed automatic transmission for 2007. A 4-shaft design with higher torque capacity, it is more robust than its predecessor, but also more compact. It also features slightly revised ratios, new shift control logic for each model and Grade Logic Control and, on the Type-S, steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters. Mechanically related to the transmission that made its debut in the 2005 RL, the 2007 TL unit has modifications to adapt it to the front-wheel drive TL platform.

Designed for low maintenance and a high level of durability, the TL transmission requires no scheduled service until 120,000 miles. To provide strong off-the-line acceleration coupled with a relaxed, fuel-efficient cruising rpm, the unit has one of the widest gear ratio spreads of any 5-speed automatic transmission in its class.

Automatic Mode

The Sequential SportShift transmission can be operated in conventional fully automatic mode via a front center console-mounted gated shifter. When in automatic mode, the transmission incorporates an advanced Grade Logic Control system and Shift Hold Control, both of which work to reduce gear "hunting" and unnecessary shifting.

Shift Hold Control keeps the transmission in its current (lower) ratio when the throttle is quickly released and the brakes are applied (as might be the case when decelerating to enter a corner). Shift Hold Control leaves the chassis undisturbed by excess shifting, ensuring that abundant power is immediately available without a downshift.

Grade Logic Control alters the 5-speed automatic's shift schedule when traveling uphill or downhill, reducing shift frequency, and improving speed control. Throttle position, vehicle speed and acceleration/deceleration are continuously measured, then compared with a map stored in the transmission computer. The Grade Logic Control system then determines when the car is on a hill. If this is the case, the shift schedule is adjusted to automatically hold the transmission in a lower gear for better climbing power or increased downhill engine braking.

Manual Mode

The Sequential SportShift transmission can be shifted into manual mode by moving the center console-mounted selector lever laterally to a special gate to the left of the "Drive" position. The TL can then be shifted manually by pushing or pulling the shift lever. TL Type-S owners can also choose to use F1® style paddle shifters mounted on the steering wheel, which reduces the need to remove their hands from the wheel during spirited driving. A digital display under the tachometer indicates which gear the transmission is in.

Type-S models use special shift algorithms to deliver quicker, firmer shifts, heightening control and driver involvement. Additionally, thanks to the robust construction of the new automatic transmission, downshifts occur over a much wider range than before. TL and TL Type-S drivers can now downshift into first gear. Type-S drivers enjoy special shift programming for the third to second and second to first downshifts that increases this speed by about 7 mph for even greater control.

To help protect the engine and drivetrain from damage, an array of preventive features are active when the transmission is in manual mode. In first, second, third and fourth gears, the logic changes, and the transmission ECU cuts off fuel flow to the engine if there is a possibility of over revving.

In the rare situation where the fuel cutoff alone is unable to prevent engine over revving (as could happen on a steep downhill) the transmission will upshift itself to prevent engine damage. And finally, when downshifting, the transmission won't execute a driver-commanded downshift that would send the engine beyond redline in the lower gear. The Sequential SportShift transmission will automatically downshift to first gear as the vehicle comes to a stop, to prevent lugging away from a stop in a high gear.

5-POSITION SHIFT GATE

The TL benefits from a 5-position shift gate that simplifies the operation of the transmission. It features a quieter linkage and a speed-controlled reverse lockout solenoid valve to prevent transmission damage. When operated in automatic mode, the transmission lets the driver choose between D (Drive) and L (Low). When moved to the Low position, the transmission downshifts to the lowest possible ratio for the current road speed to provide maximum engine braking. If the vehicle continues to slow, the transmission progressively downshifts to maintain engine braking effect. When it has shifted all the way down to first gear, the transmission won't upshift further unless the driver moves the selector back to the D (Drive) position where normal transmission operation resumes.

Originally Posted by TriniBwoy

So who wants to bet that it rattles worse than a rattle snake?

Originally Posted by Warren803

Well, even though my 05 rattles like a mofo...why would you think they havent fixed most of the rattles by the 4th year of production? Why would you think it rattles more?

Originally Posted by Acura98TL

Can some post the link for the acura.com website for the 07 version? Thanks.

Originally Posted by levon1830

BIG write-up on TOV: CLICK ME!!

Originally Posted by TriniBwoy

If they couldn't get it right with the 06's (what I currently have), what makes you think one year will make a huge difference?

Originally Posted by levon1830

Originally Posted by TL Muscle

Anyone seen any info released today on the actual pricing? Don't see any on the Acura website since they list it as a "Future Vehicle."

I hope we don't have to wait til November 1 to see it.

Originally Posted by TL Muscle

For those of us who really don't like the look of the Type-S wheels, I see they will be offering 2 alternative finishes as options! I bet that will bring in a few more buyers!

Originally Posted by Anansi

Where did you find that information? I want to see what the dark wheels look like on a black car, but I generally don't like dark wheels. So a shinier finish (at no additional cost) would be a great option. IMHO

Originally Posted by TL Muscle

It's in the TOV article linked above here (on this thread page). There is so much information in the TOV article that I would need to go back and look to see what page, but it's there, I promise!

Bit it refers to it as an option, so I'm guessing it would be an additional charge.

Originally Posted by levon1830

So you're upset about having to pay extra for the standard navi on the TL-S, but you're willing to pay even more to try to special order one without it? I understand that was a rant, but it still doesn't make any sense...

Originally Posted by TL Muscle

For those of us who really don't like the look of the Type-S wheels, I see they will be offering 2 alternative finishes as options! I bet that will bring in a few more buyers!

Originally Posted by whatjones911

If you go look at acura's site of the Type S photos, the close up of the steering wheel, its shows the airbag line. How cheap. hahaha

Originally Posted by mkaresh

Any way to get the specs put on the first page?

Any word on how they're dealing with the extra torque, given the already abundant torque steer with the 3.2?

Originally Posted by Acuraboy7

it would probably cost extra to custom order one but not as much as it would with the nav already on it. I don't really need it, I was born with a built in road map

Originally Posted by Mike_TX

All I can say to you - and others who think they couldn't use Navi - is that you either don't ever go anywhere different or new, or that you are the only person on Earth who automatically knows how to get to places you've never been before. :shakehead

I figure people who don't like Navi have just never used it before. Use it for awhile and you'll never want to do without it. Kinda like remote controls for TV's or garage door openers.
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Originally Posted by mkaresh

Any way to get the specs put on the first page?

Originally Posted by Acuraboy7

I know that, but there are alot of people that don't want it or need it, and its not like I can't read a map....I just think that nav should be an opt up to the buyer....I'll talk to the acura dealer about it, if I can custom order one with out it I will, if not then I guess my next TL will have Nav...lol I'll get over it

Originally Posted by BBoz

Bitter much? All you have done is complain for the last 2 pages.

Originally Posted by BBoz

Bitter much? All you have done is complain for the last 2 pages.

Originally Posted by mg7726

he's just trying to postcount++

acuraboy, go ask honda to custom order a TL-S w/o navi....see what they say