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Old 09-02-2006, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Oswald Vater
I just watched "Motorweek" on PBS this morning (9/2) and they had a short piece on the new TL-S in their "Carkeys" segment. Showed it in a nice blue color and spent most of the time accenting the differences on the S version from the standard. Check out PBS.org for the times when it might be viewing in your area.
I just saw the segment on TV. The blue definitely looks alot nicer on TV than in the pictures (even with the dark silver rims).


Off topic: Motorweek also showed the Saturn Sky. Pretty nice looking (inexpensive) roadster.
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Originally Posted by Shopping_TL
I just saw the segment on TV. The blue definitely looks alot nicer on TV than in the pictures (even with the dark silver rims).


Off topic: Motorweek also showed the Saturn Sky. Pretty nice looking (inexpensive) roadster.
I agree, the car looks A LOT better in video. I love the blue!
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Old 09-02-2006, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by levon1830
I agree, the car looks A LOT better in video. I love the blue!

What Chnl was that on?
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Old 09-02-2006, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Acuraboy7
What Chnl was that on?
It came on PBS today at 3 p.m. in my area.
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Old 09-02-2006, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by levon1830
It came on PBS today at 3 p.m. in my area.
I'll check it out, thanks
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TV Search for the TL Spot

MotorWeek #2552

Episode Title: 2552/Hyundai Accent
PBS broadcast window begins September 1, 2006

Quick Listing:
Road Test: The thrifty 2006 Hyundai Accent
Road Test: 2007 Saturn Sky roadster
Goss' Garage: Finding a Cure for Brake Dusk
FYI: Mercedes-Benz Classic Center
Car Keys First Drives: Acura TL, Buick Enclave, Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Spec B
If you go to the MPT website, it says episode title #2552 is "first driving" the MDX and not the TL. But the Motorweek website says they are first-driving the TL. Are you sure which episode you saw today?
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Old 09-02-2006, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by levon1830
It came on PBS today at 3 p.m. in my area.
its not going to be on here till Monday, I got Tivo set to record it, anyone in IL its on at 7pm on PBS Monday 9/4 and that still might depend on your area so check out your listings
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Old 09-02-2006, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TL Muscle
If you go to the MPT website, it says episode title #2552 is "first driving" the MDX and not the TL. But the Motorweek website says they are first-driving the TL. Are you sure which episode you saw today?
it said that in the listing "Hyundai Accent" so that must be it
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Old 09-02-2006, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Acuraboy7
its not going to be on here till Monday, I got Tivo set to record it, anyone in IL its on at 7pm on PBS Monday 9/4 and that still might depend on your area so check out your listings
It's a pretty short spot on the TL and TL-S (more about the TL-S) but it is definitely worth it to see the cars in motion.
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Old 09-02-2006, 06:08 PM
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someone put a camcorder in front of their TV and post it on the net.
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Old 09-02-2006, 07:31 PM
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Improved ride comfort

According to the details pages at VTEC.net, the '07 TL has recieved the following enhancements for improved ride comfort:

* Suspension tuning to enhance ride comfort while maintaining handling performance
* Front spring rates reduced by 7 percent from 2006 TL
* Shock absorbers and compliance bushing retuned for ride comfort
* Thicker hollow front anti-roll bar and new larger diameter hollow rear anti-roll bar
* New rear subframe bushings for reduced NVH
* Stiffer 17 x 8-inch aluminum-alloy wheels that result in less road noise
* Underbody brake strake to reduce brake fade

It looks like Acura responded to the ride complaints.
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Old 09-02-2006, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dampfnudel
According to the details pages at VTEC.net, the '07 TL has recieved the following enhancements for improved ride comfort:

* Suspension tuning to enhance ride comfort while maintaining handling performance
* Front spring rates reduced by 7 percent from 2006 TL
* Shock absorbers and compliance bushing retuned for ride comfort
* Thicker hollow front anti-roll bar and new larger diameter hollow rear anti-roll bar
* New rear subframe bushings for reduced NVH
* Stiffer 17 x 8-inch aluminum-alloy wheels that result in less road noise
* Underbody brake strake to reduce brake fade

It looks like Acura responded to the ride complaints.
And this is all on the base 07 TL? So that means the 04-06 owners have what it seems to be the sports version of the TL!! HAHA. Whereas the TypeS is the sport's sports version of the TL
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Old 09-02-2006, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Acuraboy7
it said that in the listing "Hyundai Accent" so that must be it

OMG stop already you post whore!!

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Old 09-02-2006, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by J RIDE 81
I still can't believe they changed the interior theme to orange for the type S. That is one (not only) reason I stayed away from the Infiniti G. Unbelievable!
I agree but as a side note, the 2007 G is blue and white, no more red/orange!
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Old 09-02-2006, 09:27 PM
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All 2nd Gen TL's had moonrooof's and heated seats for 1999-2003.

There were only four configurations for that car (non-Nav, Nav, non-Type-S and Type-S ), but all had heated seats and a moonroof.

Honda/Acura is one of the few manufacturers that does not have individually optional moonroof's. It's always either with a model or part of a trim package (i.e. EX Accord)

Originally Posted by Acuraboy7
I did mean the last gen haven't even seen that on the 04's and up it is true that once in a while they make a few that way, I have no idea how that happends
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Old 09-02-2006, 09:30 PM
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Hmmmm. Gotta check out the online Acura parts website for the price and compatibility of the Type-S sway bars. Previously the cost of OEM Acura bars was fairly low compared to aftermarket.


Originally Posted by dampfnudel
According to the details pages at VTEC.net, the '07 TL has recieved the following enhancements for improved ride comfort:

* Suspension tuning to enhance ride comfort while maintaining handling performance
* Front spring rates reduced by 7 percent from 2006 TL
* Shock absorbers and compliance bushing retuned for ride comfort
* Thicker hollow front anti-roll bar and new larger diameter hollow rear anti-roll bar
* New rear subframe bushings for reduced NVH
* Stiffer 17 x 8-inch aluminum-alloy wheels that result in less road noise
* Underbody brake strake to reduce brake fade

It looks like Acura responded to the ride complaints.
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Old 09-02-2006, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
Hmmmm. Gotta check out the online Acura parts website for the price and compatibility of the Type-S sway bars. Previously the cost of OEM Acura bars was fairly low compared to aftermarket.
The TypeS sways bars are the same as the 6-speed TL's now. So you can just order them now.
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Old 09-02-2006, 09:43 PM
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I have a 2005 6MT TL, while it does have larger bars than the 5AT model I don't believe it has a hollow rear bar. So the bars for the Type-S and 6MT may be different since the Type S rear is listed as hollow.

Have to wait until SunnySide Acura has their parts website for the 2007 models updated and compare the swaybar part numbers.

Originally Posted by whatjones911
The TypeS sways bars are the same as the 6-speed TL's now. So you can just order them now.
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:56 AM
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I just found out about the 07 TL from the Motorweek show.

I checked a local dealer about the 07 TL, they have not ordered any new TLs yet, but they expect it will be available late Oct or early Nov.

This may be a serious contender to replace an old Passat late this year or early next year. My other cars on my short list are G & IS (I don't mean to start a war again )

It is kinda weird to have two Acuras though (bought a TSX for spouse in Jan )
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Old 09-03-2006, 01:04 AM
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Honda has always used an orange interior theme to signify performance, the Type R, and Si's comes to mind. I also think the TL-S interior looks many times better than the old G35.
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Old 09-03-2006, 01:40 AM
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Where do you guys see orange??? I only see red!
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Old 09-03-2006, 01:58 AM
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Orange/red.. same thing.
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Old 09-03-2006, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dampfnudel
* Underbody brake strake to reduce brake fade
..........WTF is 'brake strake' ?
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I think you are correct since the Acura.com website lists the swaybar sizes for the 2007 Type-S as 27mm/20mm which is the same diameter as the 2004-2006 6MT TL.


Originally Posted by whatjones911
The TypeS sways bars are the same as the 6-speed TL's now. So you can just order them now.
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Old 09-03-2006, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DMZ
..........WTF is 'brake strake' ?
From Hondanews.com, talking about the Civic Si:

Supplemental fresh air front brake cooling is received via an aerodynamic strake positioned in front of the tire. The strake directs fresh air across the rotors for cooling much like a dedicated brake duct, allowing the brakes to be more resistant to fade in demanding high frequency and high performance stopping situations.
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Can someone photoshop the current A-Spec wheels onto this pic of the TL-S? Thanks!

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Just watched Motorweek with the new 07.. the black looks great! Maybe it was just me, but the 3.5 engine sounded louder with the hood open.
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I was trying to record the TL part off to a camcorder, but I get a half black line from the middle to the bottom. I know its due to the TV refresh frames.. but Im not sure how to fix it. Does anyone know? Then I can upload for everyone to view.
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Old 09-03-2006, 06:58 PM
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This is the best I could get off of a camcorder. I couldnt upload it all since there was a 25mb limit on putfile. At least this gives you an idea.

http://media.putfile.com/07-TL---Motorweek
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Old 09-03-2006, 07:52 PM
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Pretty cool vid....type S looks nice. Someone with a tivo or dvr wanna give it a shot an upload a HD vid?
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I like how he says "the type s is the only TL offered in a 6 speed manual transmission" lol

Way to do your research.
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Is that what the exhaust sounds like in the Type-S? Interesting ... and thanks for posting the vid. Getting a camcorder and upping it onto putmedia ... That's beyond the call of duty.
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Originally Posted by twigglius
I like how he says "the type s is the only TL offered in a 6 speed manual transmission" lol

Way to do your research.
From what I read, this is true for the '07 line up. No manual is available on the base '07 models.
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Originally Posted by Shopping_TL
From what I read, this is true for the '07 line up. No manual is available on the base '07 models.
yea i think this is right. The base TL will have not have the 6MT option anymore. They tuned the 07 Base TL more soft for a luxury feel compared to the 04-06 TL.
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He is right about the 6MT tranny only being available on the Type S. You can find all the details and info about the 07's at the link below. There is a ton of small details/changes they have done to fix a lot of problems with the MMC. Its a couple of pages long, but worth the read.

6-Speed Manual Transmission (TL Type-S only)
Close ratio spacing for maximum performance
Multi-cone synchronizers (first through fourth gears)
Reverse lock-out feature prevents accidental engagement
Lightweight high-pressure-cast aluminum-alloy transmission housing
Improved clutch feel for smoother engagement
Advanced clutch torsion mechanism reduces gear noise
Helical gear limited-slip differential reduces wheel spin and maximizes acceleration

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...icle_id=603879

As for the vid, i replayed it and it was longer than what it is now. I wonder if they chopped it up.
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great post invincible569.

yeah, the black does look sick!
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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
All 2nd Gen TL's had moonrooof's and heated seats for 1999-2003.

There were only four configurations for that car (non-Nav, Nav, non-Type-S and Type-S ), but all had heated seats and a moonroof.

Honda/Acura is one of the few manufacturers that does not have individually optional moonroof's. It's always either with a model or part of a trim package (i.e. EX Accord)
Yes I know that! I had one like I explained as a loner, like i said I have no idea why it ended up that way, I didn't care at the time to ask either.
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Originally Posted by Shopping_TL
From what I read, this is true for the '07 line up. No manual is available on the base '07 models.
Yes. this is true. I am extremely disappointed.. Why does Acura have to screw us like this? I like the additions of backup camera and mp3 capability for the '07 but if I want a manual I have to get a type-s.. complete B.S.. Type-S is not worth it for me when MRSP is 39,000.. There are better choices at 39,000

Here's a link to a first drive for the type-s doesn't sound like they are too impressed.

http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...le_id_int/2111
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Ok guys... Toronto-TL just sent me a better quality and full version of the Motorweek TV review of the 07 TL. I uploaded it again at this new URL:

http://media.putfile.com/07-Acura-TL-S---Motorweek

I took off the first one.
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Originally Posted by mecca88
Here's a link to a first drive for the type-s doesn't sound like they are too impressed.

http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...le_id_int/2111
That was a good read. Its an actual non biased review which is what I was looking for. Now all I need to know is how fast each of them run at the 1/4 mile.
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