2007+ MERGED THREAD, SPECS ARE NOW ON PAGE 1, POST #1
09-11-2006, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AltecBX
Acura won't throw out a car in their lineup with SH-AWD + manual. All their cars with the SH-AWD will be mated with an Automatic.
what is the big issue with these sport luxury sedans and having 4wd+stick? It shouldnt cause such a huge problem, considering the throttle system is already drive by wire, the RLs engine already 14 more hp, which is enough to negate the diferences that one would say would ruin the AWD system, and lastly, subaru, mitsubishi, bmw, etc have seemed to figure this out effectivly.
it drives me up a wall
09-11-2006, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by krio
2007 Acura TL - Specifications
Guys on http://hondanews.com/CatID3001?mid=2...60337&mime=asc
you'll find all the possible informations about the TL 2007 and Type-S, specifications, powertrain, body, chassis, features...
A little example:
TL Type-S
3.5-liter, SOHC VTEC V-6
286 hp @ 6200 rpm
256 lbs-ft @ 5000 rpm
6800 rpm
3.50 in x 3.66 in (89 mm x 93 mm)
212 cu in (3471 cc)
11.0:1
Programmed multi-point Injection (PGM-FI)
Variable valve Timing and Lift electronic Control (VTEC(TM)) with 4-valves-per-cylinder, belt-driven, single overhead camshaft
Aluminum alloy with centrifugally cast iron cylinder liners
Aluminum alloy with 4-valves-per-cylinder with pent-roof combustion chambers
CARB LEV-2 ULEV/ EPA Tier 2-Bin 5
Electronic Direct
12 volt - 130 amp
12V-72ah/20hr
Premium Unleaded
Transverse mounted, front engine, front-wheel-drive
5-speed automatic transmission with Sequential SportShift, Grade Logic Control and F1-style paddle shifter
or
Close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission with limited slip differential
Manual Transmission (Type-S only)
3.933
2.478
1.700
1.250
0.975
0.770
4.008
3.285
TL Type-S - Ventilated Brembo, 12.2 in (310 mm) diameter, 0.98 in (25 mm) rotor thickness
TL Type-S - Brembo 4-piston front brake calipers and single piston rear
Guys on http://hondanews.com/CatID3001?mid=2...60337&mime=asc
you'll find all the possible informations about the TL 2007 and Type-S, specifications, powertrain, body, chassis, features...
A little example:
TL Type-S
3.5-liter, SOHC VTEC V-6
286 hp @ 6200 rpm
256 lbs-ft @ 5000 rpm
6800 rpm
3.50 in x 3.66 in (89 mm x 93 mm)
212 cu in (3471 cc)
11.0:1
Programmed multi-point Injection (PGM-FI)
Variable valve Timing and Lift electronic Control (VTEC(TM)) with 4-valves-per-cylinder, belt-driven, single overhead camshaft
Aluminum alloy with centrifugally cast iron cylinder liners
Aluminum alloy with 4-valves-per-cylinder with pent-roof combustion chambers
CARB LEV-2 ULEV/ EPA Tier 2-Bin 5
Electronic Direct
12 volt - 130 amp
12V-72ah/20hr
Premium Unleaded
Transverse mounted, front engine, front-wheel-drive
5-speed automatic transmission with Sequential SportShift, Grade Logic Control and F1-style paddle shifter
or
Close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission with limited slip differential
Manual Transmission (Type-S only)
3.933
2.478
1.700
1.250
0.975
0.770
4.008
3.285
TL Type-S - Ventilated Brembo, 12.2 in (310 mm) diameter, 0.98 in (25 mm) rotor thickness
TL Type-S - Brembo 4-piston front brake calipers and single piston rear
Yes I know, but its still standard. So what is your point?
09-13-2006, 09:13 PM
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2007 Type-S swaybars
According to acuranews.com the 2007 Type-S has the following sway bars sizes.
2007 TL Type-S
Front 1.06 in. diameter, solid (27.0 mm)
Rear 0.79 in. diameter, solid (20 mm)
2005 TL 6MT
Front 1.07 in. diameter 0.20 in. wall thickness (27.2 mm) x (5 mm)
Rear 0.79 in. diameter, solid (20 mm)
So it appears a stiffer front bar is available from Acura, the curb weight of a Type-S compared to a 2005 TL is 70lb heavier with a 61.5/38.5% F/R weight. A bigger front bar will flatten out the lean in turns more but changing it alone will induce more understeer in turns.
2007 TL Type-S
Front 1.06 in. diameter, solid (27.0 mm)
Rear 0.79 in. diameter, solid (20 mm)
2005 TL 6MT
Front 1.07 in. diameter 0.20 in. wall thickness (27.2 mm) x (5 mm)
Rear 0.79 in. diameter, solid (20 mm)
So it appears a stiffer front bar is available from Acura, the curb weight of a Type-S compared to a 2005 TL is 70lb heavier with a 61.5/38.5% F/R weight. A bigger front bar will flatten out the lean in turns more but changing it alone will induce more understeer in turns.
09-14-2006, 05:29 PM
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ETA on 07's?
I'm sure it has been asked an answered, but this thread is well over 100 pages and I just don't have time to read it all.
I'm considering getting a new TL to replace my 02 TypeS. I was looking at the 06 last night, but think I might wait for the 07 mainly for the XM Nav Traffic.
Just wondering how long I might be waiting. I think I'm gonna pass on the S this time, don't really want to spend the extra $ since the base model is making about the same HP as what I have now.
Thanks
I'm considering getting a new TL to replace my 02 TypeS. I was looking at the 06 last night, but think I might wait for the 07 mainly for the XM Nav Traffic.
Just wondering how long I might be waiting. I think I'm gonna pass on the S this time, don't really want to spend the extra $ since the base model is making about the same HP as what I have now.
Thanks
09-14-2006, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002TLSNavi
I'm sure it has been asked an answered, but this thread is well over 100 pages and I just don't have time to read it all.
I'm considering getting a new TL to replace my 02 TypeS. I was looking at the 06 last night, but think I might wait for the 07 mainly for the XM Nav Traffic.
Just wondering how long I might be waiting. I think I'm gonna pass on the S this time, don't really want to spend the extra $ since the base model is making about the same HP as what I have now.
Thanks
I'm considering getting a new TL to replace my 02 TypeS. I was looking at the 06 last night, but think I might wait for the 07 mainly for the XM Nav Traffic.
Just wondering how long I might be waiting. I think I'm gonna pass on the S this time, don't really want to spend the extra $ since the base model is making about the same HP as what I have now.
Thanks
09-14-2006, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002TLSNavi
I'm sure it has been asked an answered, but this thread is well over 100 pages and I just don't have time to read it all.
I'm considering getting a new TL to replace my 02 TypeS. I was looking at the 06 last night, but think I might wait for the 07 mainly for the XM Nav Traffic.
Just wondering how long I might be waiting. I think I'm gonna pass on the S this time, don't really want to spend the extra $ since the base model is making about the same HP as what I have now.
Thanks
I'm considering getting a new TL to replace my 02 TypeS. I was looking at the 06 last night, but think I might wait for the 07 mainly for the XM Nav Traffic.
Just wondering how long I might be waiting. I think I'm gonna pass on the S this time, don't really want to spend the extra $ since the base model is making about the same HP as what I have now.
Thanks
09-16-2006, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002TLSNavi
I'm sure it has been asked an answered, but this thread is well over 100 pages and I just don't have time to read it all.
I'm considering getting a new TL to replace my 02 TypeS. I was looking at the 06 last night, but think I might wait for the 07 mainly for the XM Nav Traffic.
Just wondering how long I might be waiting. I think I'm gonna pass on the S this time, don't really want to spend the extra $ since the base model is making about the same HP as what I have now.
Thanks
I'm considering getting a new TL to replace my 02 TypeS. I was looking at the 06 last night, but think I might wait for the 07 mainly for the XM Nav Traffic.
Just wondering how long I might be waiting. I think I'm gonna pass on the S this time, don't really want to spend the extra $ since the base model is making about the same HP as what I have now.
Thanks
I'd get the '06 TL, especially if you don't care about the S-type. I got my 06 last month and love it. I got it for $32K including NAV, wheel locks, mud guards and 2 years included service maintanance. Why wait a month or so and have to pay more for a new year vehicle that hasn't really changed. I have heard the XM Nav Traffic isn't all it's cracked up to be from this thread earlier on. I think the '06 is nicer looking anyway. Not liking the foglights and chrome down there. Plus your insurance will be lower because it's a year old model year. Just my
09-16-2006, 02:56 PM
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I'm waiting
I'm gonna wait for the 07 for the following reasons:
Softer leather seats
Upgraded Navi with higher resolution sreen, more POI, Zagat and voice recognition
Bluetooth with address book transfer
Smoother riding suspension
XM Traffic
Aux audio input
Softer leather seats
Upgraded Navi with higher resolution sreen, more POI, Zagat and voice recognition
Bluetooth with address book transfer
Smoother riding suspension
XM Traffic
Aux audio input
09-17-2006, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gammah
I wonder if there will be a flash upgrade for the Audio so we can play MP3's on the 04-06 models?
Gammah
Gammah
On a related note, Does anyone know if the audio system can read MP3 files on a home-burned DVD+/-R ? I have a feeling the answer is no, but I can still ask just in case.
I hope Honda/Acura releases the 2nd gen iPod Music Link soon with the contents (artists/titles/playlists) of the iPod displayed on the navi screen.
09-18-2006, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Toronto-TL
I'm gonna wait for the 07 for the following reasons:
Softer leather seats
Upgraded Navi with higher resolution sreen, more POI, Zagat and voice recognition
Bluetooth with address book transfer
Smoother riding suspension
XM Traffic
Aux audio input
Softer leather seats
Upgraded Navi with higher resolution sreen, more POI, Zagat and voice recognition
Bluetooth with address book transfer
Smoother riding suspension
XM Traffic
Aux audio input
09-18-2006, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Toronto-TL
I'm gonna wait for the 07 for the following reasons:
Softer leather seats
Upgraded Navi with higher resolution sreen, more POI, Zagat and voice recognition
Bluetooth with address book transfer
Smoother riding suspension
XM Traffic
Aux audio input
Softer leather seats
Upgraded Navi with higher resolution sreen, more POI, Zagat and voice recognition
Bluetooth with address book transfer
Smoother riding suspension
XM Traffic
Aux audio input
Yea, I was considering it as well, but while I'd like the Nav traffic and address book transfer the 06 is still a hell of an upgrade over my 02, and it's probably not worth the difference between sticker on the 07 (around 36k prob won't be negotiable for a few months) and what ppl seem to be paying for 06's (about 31-32). So if I decide to do anything it'll be an 06...
09-18-2006, 08:19 AM
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AOL Review Of Type S
Headline: An upgraded engine, stiffer suspension, new wheels and sportier seats top off the sport version of Acura’s venerable TL. But does front wheel drive hold it back against BMW and Infiniti?
Headline: An upgraded engine, stiffer suspension, new wheels and sportier seats top off the sport version of Acura’s venerable TL. But does front wheel drive hold it back against BMW and Infiniti?
09-18-2006, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AcurasGhost
AOL Review Of Type S
Headline: An upgraded engine, stiffer suspension, new wheels and sportier seats top off the sport version of Acura’s venerable TL. But does front wheel drive hold it back against BMW and Infiniti?
Headline: An upgraded engine, stiffer suspension, new wheels and sportier seats top off the sport version of Acura’s venerable TL. But does front wheel drive hold it back against BMW and Infiniti?
Only for those who need peace of mind having a RWD. Like the article said, it doesnt mean the BMW and infiniti is faster just because of that setup.
09-18-2006, 10:16 AM
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09-18-2006, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dampfnudel
No, there won't be a flash upgrade for 04-06 models. The hardware was upgraded to read MP3/WMA files.
On a related note, Does anyone know if the audio system can read MP3 files on a home-burned DVD+/-R ? I have a feeling the answer is no, but I can still ask just in case.
I hope Honda/Acura releases the 2nd gen iPod Music Link soon with the contents (artists/titles/playlists) of the iPod displayed on the navi screen.
On a related note, Does anyone know if the audio system can read MP3 files on a home-burned DVD+/-R ? I have a feeling the answer is no, but I can still ask just in case.
I hope Honda/Acura releases the 2nd gen iPod Music Link soon with the contents (artists/titles/playlists) of the iPod displayed on the navi screen.
great q's??
would it be a softwear upgrade? such as a dvd or cd?? to allow mp3 playback?
dvd +//r =====i dont think the radio plays any mp3 files (which sucks)
09-18-2006, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by billiam21
The dealer in Rochester says they'll have the TL Type S in October.
So it'll be soon
So it'll be soon
09-18-2006, 06:11 PM
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well i called acura direct asking if they work with any auto rental companiess... then thought well since i am talking to acura rep already why not ask about tls so i did and she said "early " october " so lets hope this is it , i mean why would they tell me that or anything if it was not oficial or would not kow b/c is not set yet
09-19-2006, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by yila95
09-19-2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by groman
well i called acura direct asking if they work with any auto rental companiess... then thought well since i am talking to acura rep already why not ask about tls so i did and she said "early " october " so lets hope this is it , i mean why would they tell me that or anything if it was not oficial or would not kow b/c is not set yet
Last time I checked Honda/Acura will not sell to rental companiess. Toyota didn't used to either, but they started to a few years back.
09-19-2006, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Acuraboy7
Last time I checked Honda/Acura will not sell to rental companiess. Toyota didn't used to either, but they started to a few years back.
maybe they did some time ago but u are right at the momeny they do not deal with any rental comapnies whatsoever but she told me that i can call all of the and some of them might have some acura tthat they buy well not straight from acura
09-19-2006, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by groman
maybe they did some time ago but u are right at the momeny they do not deal with any rental comapnies whatsoever but she told me that i can call all of the and some of them might have some acura tthat they buy well not straight from acura
I kinda like that they don't, its kinda like saying they are to good of cars to be used for that and we don't need the sales either.
09-20-2006, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Toronto-TL
I'm gonna wait for the 07 for the following reasons:
Softer leather seats
Upgraded Navi with higher resolution sreen, more POI, Zagat and voice recognition
Bluetooth with address book transfer
Smoother riding suspension
XM Traffic
Aux audio input
As to non-T/S...I have not seen anyone mention the new A/T in the 07 TL....it will handle more torque and allow you to hold first in the sports shift.. ..may allow a little more aggressive shift points and/or more aggressive gearing??? Reason for my wait...not wanting a T/S...and hearing of A/T issues...
I'm gonna wait for the 07 for the following reasons:
Softer leather seats
Upgraded Navi with higher resolution sreen, more POI, Zagat and voice recognition
Bluetooth with address book transfer
Smoother riding suspension
XM Traffic
Aux audio input
As to non-T/S...I have not seen anyone mention the new A/T in the 07 TL....it will handle more torque and allow you to hold first in the sports shift.. ..may allow a little more aggressive shift points and/or more aggressive gearing??? Reason for my wait...not wanting a T/S...and hearing of A/T issues...
09-20-2006, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas
Originally Posted by Toronto-TL
I'm gonna wait for the 07 for the following reasons:
Softer leather seats
Upgraded Navi with higher resolution sreen, more POI, Zagat and voice recognition
Bluetooth with address book transfer
Smoother riding suspension
XM Traffic
Aux audio input
As to non-T/S...I have not seen anyone mention the new A/T in the 07 TL....it will handle more torque and allow you to hold first in the sports shift.. ..may allow a little more aggressive shift points and/or more aggressive gearing??? Reason for my wait...not wanting a T/S...and hearing of A/T issues...
I'm gonna wait for the 07 for the following reasons:
Softer leather seats
Upgraded Navi with higher resolution sreen, more POI, Zagat and voice recognition
Bluetooth with address book transfer
Smoother riding suspension
XM Traffic
Aux audio input
As to non-T/S...I have not seen anyone mention the new A/T in the 07 TL....it will handle more torque and allow you to hold first in the sports shift.. ..may allow a little more aggressive shift points and/or more aggressive gearing??? Reason for my wait...not wanting a T/S...and hearing of A/T issues...
Thanks
09-23-2006, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas
Originally Posted by Toronto-TL
I'm gonna wait for the 07 for the following reasons:
Softer leather seats
Upgraded Navi with higher resolution sreen, more POI, Zagat and voice recognition
Bluetooth with address book transfer
Smoother riding suspension
XM Traffic
Aux audio input
ID LIKE TO ADD TO THIS LIST:
BACK UP CAMERA
HIGHER RES. MID
3 SPOKE STEERING WHEEL
MP3 PLAYBACK
I'm gonna wait for the 07 for the following reasons:
Softer leather seats
Upgraded Navi with higher resolution sreen, more POI, Zagat and voice recognition
Bluetooth with address book transfer
Smoother riding suspension
XM Traffic
Aux audio input
ID LIKE TO ADD TO THIS LIST:
BACK UP CAMERA
HIGHER RES. MID
3 SPOKE STEERING WHEEL
MP3 PLAYBACK
09-23-2006, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by athlon03
wish i had waited for 07
yea, but there are some good deals to be had on 06's... just got an internet quote for an 06 navi 5AT Antracite/Ebony for 30,775
I'm sure if I wait a few weeks for the 07 I'll be paing full MSRP.
So is that list of additional features really worth about $6k? I would really like the NAV traffic and the backup cam, but I can't really justify that kind of money for it.
09-23-2006, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Acuraboy7
Last time I checked Honda/Acura will not sell to rental companiess. Toyota didn't used to either, but they started to a few years back.
09-23-2006, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002TLSNavi
yea, but there are some good deals to be had on 06's... just got an internet quote for an 06 navi 5AT Antracite/Ebony for 30,775
I'm sure if I wait a few weeks for the 07 I'll be paing full MSRP.
So is that list of additional features really worth about $6k? I would really like the NAV traffic and the backup cam, but I can't really justify that kind of money for it.
I'm sure if I wait a few weeks for the 07 I'll be paing full MSRP.
So is that list of additional features really worth about $6k? I would really like the NAV traffic and the backup cam, but I can't really justify that kind of money for it.
09-23-2006, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dampfnudel
You won't pay full MSRP in NJ, too much competition. I'll be trying for at least $1.5-2K off the sticker price (base TL Navi) and I think I'll get it. It will probably be a different story for the Type-S which will stay at sticker, at least for a few weeks.
09-23-2006, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by S L I C K
Who the heck is going to pay MSRP for a 2007 Acura TL Type-S when the 2007 Infiniti G35 Sport can be had for roughly the same price? The 2007 Acura TL Type-S can't compete with the offerings from Lexus, BMW, and Infiniti. Maybe it could have back in MY 2004, 2005, or even 2006, but definitely not now. The 2007 Acura TL Type-S just doesn't deliver as much "car" as the competition does in MY 2007. Anyone who pays MSRP for a 2007 Acura TL Type-S is crazy.