2010 TSX - V6 engine confirmed
02-08-2009, 06:03 PM
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02-08-2009, 06:07 PM
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It looks so hot in this red color!!! What red color is this? Is it the same as the red that we get on the TSX? It seems deeper here. It's GORGEOUS!
I so hope that the spied crossover is really an Acura, not a Honda! If it's got SH-AWD, V6, and the Acura creature comforts and service, then I think I have found my next car!!! :-)
02-08-2009, 06:26 PM
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02-08-2009, 06:36 PM
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... just to add to my thoughts. The previous guy at Acura was Rich Thomas. He is the one who axed the Legend nameplate (all the names actually). He also brought us the first gen CL, the first Acura to be designed and built in the US. I even remember the project leaders name: Charlie Barker. Wonder where he is now? Thomas also introduced first gen RL and TL (though I suspect the RL was a Japan creation).
Colliver's first car was probably the 2G TL, and then followed up with the MDX. He got the G1 TSX here, stewarded the 3G TL and was opposed to the V-6 2G RL, insisting instead on a V-8. In the end, Colliver can count more hits than misses.
Colliver's first car was probably the 2G TL, and then followed up with the MDX. He got the G1 TSX here, stewarded the 3G TL and was opposed to the V-6 2G RL, insisting instead on a V-8. In the end, Colliver can count more hits than misses.
02-08-2009, 08:42 PM
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I wonder if Dick Colliver was for or against a V6 TSX.
But now that I think about it Acura is moving upscale they way he wanted, making the TSX the new TL, the TL the new RL and the yet to be seen RL is probably going to be some crazy $70k party boat.
But now that I think about it Acura is moving upscale they way he wanted, making the TSX the new TL, the TL the new RL and the yet to be seen RL is probably going to be some crazy $70k party boat.
02-08-2009, 08:46 PM
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Are you sure the public announcement isn't made long after the fact? Those big corperations prize secrecy. I figure everything we learn and when we learn it is carefully timed.
02-08-2009, 09:55 PM
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... just to add to my thoughts. The previous guy at Acura was Rich Thomas. He is the one who axed the Legend nameplate (all the names actually). He also brought us the first gen CL, the first Acura to be designed and built in the US. I even remember the project leaders name: Charlie Barker. Wonder where he is now? Thomas also introduced first gen RL and TL (though I suspect the RL was a Japan creation).
Colliver's first car was probably the 2G TL, and then followed up with the MDX. He got the G1 TSX here, stewarded the 3G TL and was opposed to the V-6 2G RL, insisting instead on a V-8. In the end, Colliver can count more hits than misses.
Colliver's first car was probably the 2G TL, and then followed up with the MDX. He got the G1 TSX here, stewarded the 3G TL and was opposed to the V-6 2G RL, insisting instead on a V-8. In the end, Colliver can count more hits than misses.
02-09-2009, 10:27 AM
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I have been quiet about all of this recently and just have been thread viewing. I love the fact that Acura is putting a V6 in the TSX. If it is not mated with a manual or SH-AWD (that would suck) it's still puts acura closer to being a true luxury brand. Hopefully those two things will come soon. My opinion is Acura needs to have SH-AWD in all of their cars, and offer manuals in at least the TSX and TL in all trims. Also Acura needs a wagon badly, The audi A4 Advant and BMW 3 wagon are selling like hot cakes, and they also have AWD. I hope Acura doesn't disappoint me in the next few years with their decisions. I think the V6 was planned all along, look at the engine bay size, so that means the AWD is planned as well looking at the rear frame and suspension design. Just my thoughts. 
02-09-2009, 10:28 AM
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... just to add to my thoughts. The previous guy at Acura was Rich Thomas. He is the one who axed the Legend nameplate (all the names actually). He also brought us the first gen CL, the first Acura to be designed and built in the US. I even remember the project leaders name: Charlie Barker. Wonder where he is now? Thomas also introduced first gen RL and TL (though I suspect the RL was a Japan creation).
Colliver's first car was probably the 2G TL, and then followed up with the MDX. He got the G1 TSX here, stewarded the 3G TL and was opposed to the V-6 2G RL, insisting instead on a V-8. In the end, Colliver can count more hits than misses.
Colliver's first car was probably the 2G TL, and then followed up with the MDX. He got the G1 TSX here, stewarded the 3G TL and was opposed to the V-6 2G RL, insisting instead on a V-8. In the end, Colliver can count more hits than misses.
02-09-2009, 10:30 AM
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Any theoretical 0-60 or 1/4 miles times based on the projected power to weight ratio or past performance from the similar TL-s?
Also I really need to know if and when they would unveil AWD because if they withhold until 2011 I would want to wait. I only had the 1G TSX for 1yr/6mos months so I'm running a pretty bad track record with car retention.
Also I really need to know if and when they would unveil AWD because if they withhold until 2011 I would want to wait. I only had the 1G TSX for 1yr/6mos months so I'm running a pretty bad track record with car retention.
02-09-2009, 12:46 PM
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I once had this fortune cookie that had the most profound "fortune" I've ever seen from a food item or otherwise. It was this: "To have more, want less." It took a while to sink in but after a lot of contemplation and belly rubbing I came to realize how accurate it actually was.
I'm not saying it's bad to have desires. But if your wants are relentlessly driving you away from contentment, perhaps it's time to examine more closely the basis of those desires. With patience, the path of your decisions will be illuminated, so try and muster up a little of that. We should know more after the upcoming shows (Geneva and Chicago).
Ohm. Ohhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm.
I'm not saying it's bad to have desires. But if your wants are relentlessly driving you away from contentment, perhaps it's time to examine more closely the basis of those desires. With patience, the path of your decisions will be illuminated, so try and muster up a little of that. We should know more after the upcoming shows (Geneva and Chicago).
Ohm. Ohhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm.
02-09-2009, 03:44 PM
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Considering this is the same engine that's in the base TL and this will be lighter than the Base TL, I'd guess sub 6s easy. I'm not sure it will be as fast as the TL-S though. What made a big difference with the TypeS was the LSD and performance suspension. We don't know if this is going to just be a more powerful TSX or a performance TSX. If the focus is performance it may match the TL-S in many respects.
02-09-2009, 04:00 PM
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... just to add to my thoughts. The previous guy at Acura was Rich Thomas. He is the one who axed the Legend nameplate (all the names actually). He also brought us the first gen CL, the first Acura to be designed and built in the US. I even remember the project leaders name: Charlie Barker. Wonder where he is now? Thomas also introduced first gen RL and TL (though I suspect the RL was a Japan creation).
Colliver's first car was probably the 2G TL, and then followed up with the MDX. He got the G1 TSX here, stewarded the 3G TL and was opposed to the V-6 2G RL, insisting instead on a V-8. In the end, Colliver can count more hits than misses.
Colliver's first car was probably the 2G TL, and then followed up with the MDX. He got the G1 TSX here, stewarded the 3G TL and was opposed to the V-6 2G RL, insisting instead on a V-8. In the end, Colliver can count more hits than misses.
02-09-2009, 04:10 PM
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SH-AWD, slim to none (maybe 1% chance). The TSX must remain affordable and a V6 (FWD) TSX will fill the low-30's hole in the lineup that the TL vacated.
02-09-2009, 04:43 PM
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Considering this is the same engine that's in the base TL and this will be lighter than the Base TL, I'd guess sub 6s easy. I'm not sure it will be as fast as the TL-S though. What made a big difference with the TypeS was the LSD and performance suspension. We don't know if this is going to just be a more powerful TSX or a performance TSX. If the focus is performance it may match the TL-S in many respects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_(physics)
Drag (physics)
A car cruising on a highway at 50 mph (80 km/h) may require only 10 horsepower (7.5 kW) to overcome air drag, but that same car at 100 mph (160 km/h) requires 80 hp (60 kW).
Drag (physics)
A car cruising on a highway at 50 mph (80 km/h) may require only 10 horsepower (7.5 kW) to overcome air drag, but that same car at 100 mph (160 km/h) requires 80 hp (60 kW).
02-10-2009, 12:27 PM
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I would think that the V6 TSX will still be lighter than the 3G TL-S, with only 6 fewer horses, I'd expect the TSX V6 to outperform the auto TL-S, when the manual comes (2011 is my guess) it should run 0-60 in less than 5.5 secs. (the 0-60 time for a 6MT TL-S)
02-10-2009, 02:11 PM
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^^ I grudgingly agree. I suspect Acura is going to move to some sort of dual clutch or continuously variably transmission in the fairly near future anyway. It makes the most sense to start that in the upper tier cars where their competitors are doing the same thing already.
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Why not both get it at the same time? The 2010 TL SH-AWD will get a 6MT.. why not the 2010 TSX SH-AWD get it alongside the TL? Just wishful thinking on my part, i guess.
02-10-2009, 07:40 PM
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If indeed Acura builds a AWD TSX that I'll snatch it up in a heartbeat to replace my 3G... I've already had my TL on craigslist, and autotrader for a week... car market is tough right now... 
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... just to add to my thoughts. The previous guy at Acura was Rich Thomas. He is the one who axed the Legend nameplate (all the names actually). He also brought us the first gen CL, the first Acura to be designed and built in the US. I even remember the project leaders name: Charlie Barker. Wonder where he is now? Thomas also introduced first gen RL and TL (though I suspect the RL was a Japan creation).
1st gen TL = Honda Inspire and Honda Saber
1st gen RL = Legend (of course)
Of course, it was Mr Thomas's decision to do the rebadging and adding nothing new for the US market. Not a single cosmetic difference except the grilles.
Before people start bashing those "bland" cars, I have one of each. A '97 TL and a '02 RL. Out of the numerous Hondas and Acuras I've owned, I've narrowed it down to those two. They're very well built, rattle free and in the case of the TL with close to 200,000 miles on it now, extremely cheap to own considering the mileage i've gotten out of it.
I've had an '03 and '05 TL, they're gone now because quite frankly they just weren't better cars than the "old" style Acuras.
02-10-2009, 08:47 PM
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^^ I grudgingly agree. I suspect Acura is going to move to some sort of dual clutch or continuously variably transmission in the fairly near future anyway. It makes the most sense to start that in the upper tier cars where their competitors are doing the same thing already.
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GOOD! There's a lot of potential w/ those trannys and I think Acura is silly for not going this route by now. I mean come on, still running merely a 5 sp auto on a new, totally redesigned TL?!? That was their chance to REALLY make an impact! The 5 sp. tranny is a good one but it's time to move upwards. Just look at Ford/Mazda, Hyundai, VW...
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The CVTs are going to be what we'll see on the last production internal combustion engines built. The advantages are clear. I don't think they're all that mature yet though. Nissan seems to have something good going now but these would the first CVT transmissions ever mass produced with any kind of appreciable reliability. I think better materials for the belts is what's going to make these things as strong as they need to be.
02-10-2009, 09:47 PM
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She said: it's GINORMOUS!
just move the damn car into the TL slot (since TL is going to be bloated to match the 5-series class), and give me another small car to replace the TSX. god i am tired of all the fatass vehicles every damn x-gen redesign...people put damn friggin hamburger down!!
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Maybe this was already said but I didn't have the time to rad 18 pages. Sorry.
Will this 6-cyl engine be in Type-S guise?
Will it come with the availablity of SH-AWD?
Will they still offer the current 4-cyl in conjunction with this new engine?
I would be really interested in this car with some more power and AWD. That would be very nice. I am all for it.
Will this 6-cyl engine be in Type-S guise?
Will it come with the availablity of SH-AWD?
Will they still offer the current 4-cyl in conjunction with this new engine?
I would be really interested in this car with some more power and AWD. That would be very nice. I am all for it.
2. we dont know yet
(we'll find out at 3pm about these 2)
3. yes