mattg

actually, jack was just saying yesterday that there is nothing the e-manage can do that the unichip can't do better.

mattg

the only time i ever dynoed my car before was on one of those mobile dyno trailers.

i only put down like 212whp. but i had 89 octane in the tank, and others were complaining about low numbers as well.

mattg

that's what i would guess.


i can't remember what the pre-chip numbers on the dyno chart were, but the after chip whp was 244.

scalbert

And he isn't the tech guy.

There are a couple of things like directly extending the injector pulse width. Unless they changed the unit, it could only help the blown application though adding injectors.

Plus, they have to program it. :P

mattg

you are totally correct about them having to program it. it's not like they have facilities all over the place.

and not everyone is a performance guru like you and allmotor, who can program the e-manage.

it's lucky we have you guys around or we wouldn't have an e-manage or a unichip.

scalbert

According to my several discussions with them they control fuel by altering the primary air flow sensro signal. They increase the frequency or voltage of the primary load sensor to add fuel.

With that said Jack has made claims with are unfounded. He doesn't know how rich or lean these cars get under boost and as such made an incorrect statement. Plus, some of what he said above didn't make sense. If you add injectors for under boost situations your idle is let unchanged.

Why it won't work is that they can't alter the primary load sensor signal for our cars to add fuel; the MAP sensor. If they don't clamp it and hold it below about 2.95 VDC (or just below barometric pressure) the ECU will freak and kill power. In other words, they can't change that signal.

When I last spoke to them the tech guy understood this limitation and said they would have to run additional injectors. Maybe things have changed but not according to their literature.

mattg

i don't know enough about it to comment further. :o

darrinb

matt, lets say later down the road i get res, cams, does the chip have to be re tuned?

mattg

to take full advantage of the unichip, yes.

darrinb

so i have to send it back to them and pay some more to tune it??

mrsteve

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I would assume so yes, but they would need to have a car there with the same mods (i.e. RES and cams) to put on the dyno and map things out. I don't think you could just call them and say "Yeah I got this and that" and they will know what to do with it. Something like having pulleys doesn't affect it enough to warrant a different map for those without them which is why you and I will have the same chip even though I don't have the UR pulley.

Are you as anxious as me?

Jonesi

Yea, we'd have to hope Brian or Matt will also get these mods, so they have a test car..

CLS2001_97124

Matt, when we going to the tracks? I'll bring the digital recorder!

I'm glad everything worked out so well for you! Did they run any additional fuel injectors or recommend it? I take it that you have a switch that comes with your unit right? for NA and FI.

My S2K is going for tuning sometime soon, I need at least one car that can "keep up" with you on the way to the tracks.. :o

mattg

i'm going to woodburn june 19th. you should definately go.

they said nothing about needing additional injectors, so i must still be within the limits of the stock ones. i did upgrade my fuel pump though.

they used my exhisting nitrous arm switch for the chip. when the n2o is off, the street map is on. when the n2o is armed, the n2o map is on.

did you get the intercooler on the S yet?

blader

thats pretty smart, and convenient. thumbs up to them for that

Matt did they actually give you a date that they would be shipping to the rest of us? You said you go back thursday .. so assuming everything goes good with your car .. can we expect to see them ship friday?

CLS2001_97124

It's on. I'll give you a call on Friday, to see you are going for sure.

Aftercooler on the S... not yet.. my work killed me for the last 5 month.. /sigh I need to schedule an appointment to bring it in for the install.

Side note:

I talk to Jack today. I'll be bring in my car in around Thursday'ish, because they plan on testing every single harness on my car, and start it up to make sure everything is all good for people who bought them. I won't have my car from Thursday until Monday.

My poor poor starter.... :'(

phipark

^^talk about quality control.

phipark

I guess we are waiting another week now.

mattg

i believe they are just waiting to test fit on Brians car. then they will be ready to ship.


i guarantee you guys will be impressed when you open the box.

phipark

I hope I'm impressed when I open the throttle.

blader

x 10,000

I'm sure the box looks nice matt.. but the box won't get me my 13 second slip

mattg

i'm just saying the equipment looks nice.


i'm also hoping for a 13 sec. slip n/a. and a 12 sec. slip on the gas.


the chip provides a noticable gain, but don't expect it to feel like a s/c or nitrous. it's probably more like adding headers.

blader

more like adding headers!?!? seriously!??! I hope your right .. cause the first time I opened it up after installing CT headers it put a huge smile on my face

Where do you feel it the most matt? (NA of course) Midrange? VTEC?

CLS2001_97124

Man, you guys. I hope you guys don't get the hopes too high, the chip WILL react differently depending your motor and your mod setup.

To be honest, most people who know matt would agree that he just has one of those Wednesday car, he's car just seem to have a lil more compare to the rest.

But by all means, the chip does help, but how much.. really depends on everyone's butt dyno, since most people here judges by feel. (myself included)

btw, Matt did you also notice that the car is a bit more responsive? At least in the NA form.

mattg

4000 on up. it definately pulls harder than before.

mattg

jack told me a car w/ less mods would actually feel the gain from the chip the most.

blader

sorry brian .. just very curious and anxious

seattle dale

to give me an idea of what where talkin, right now i have headers & a k&n drop in filter. ok say i'm running a 14.8 @ the track, what can i expect after the chip is installed.. The track & time is totaly fictisous, I'm just trying to get some kind of an idea of the change i can expect. I too am very excited. since i dont have my chip yet, want to keep at least talking & learning more about it.

mrsteve

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That is pretty much impossible to tell right now. And if you are only running 14.8 with headers you might need to practice more at the track.

I/H/E/Tires gets me 14.2 consistantly.

I'm hoping i'm one with a "freak" engine that really takes well to the chip... so far my engine has loved every other mod i've done. Icebox gained me 3/10ths headers gave me another 3/10ths off that. I'm shooting for another 3/10ths

seattle dale

like i said my numbers were fiction, never been to the track or know what i would do in the quarter. thanks for your info. If your ice box gave you 3/10 any idea IYO would the k&n filter give? 1/10 2/10?

mrsteve

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It's gonna be hard to tell. but if it really does give us 10 hp and 10 ft/lbs across the entire powerband I would say 2/10ths 3/10ths if we are lucky.

Nashua_Night_Hawk

Just to mention as a rule of thumb, 1sec improvement in 1/4 miles above 95 MPH is worth 100 HP!

mrsteve

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So going with that theory, and assuming we would gain 10 hp, 100/10 = 1/10th of a second. But, does that theory account for peak horsepower, or a general gain across the entire powerband? The Uni-Chip is not supposed to be like headers, where you gain all your HP in the upper part of the rev range. There is no rule of thumb that really can be used to make a blanket statement on what the Uni-Chip will do for us. The only thing we can do is wait and see what the dyno and track times show.

darrinb

any news on when were gona send paymnet??

mrsteve

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I wouldn't expect to be paying until Matt's car is taken back to Uni-Chip at the end of this week and until all 35 harnesses are tested over the weekend. Looking like we might have them in under 2 weeks

darrinb

oh man i cant wait

shinybluecls

yayyy i can't wait eitherr...i've been waiting so long X)

CLS2001_97124

Don't want to get peoples hopes up.. but I'm suppose to get my car back by Monday, so all harness testing will be done by this coming weekend.

I'll update you guys later, Jack is suppose to call me to setup car drop off time.

CLS2001_97124

If you see your name list here, please contact UniChip. Todd either needs more info on Mod, or payment info. Please contact him ASAP. Thank you.

No Telephone numbers for > (I need these so I can verify payment with everyone)

1. Anthony Pennisi
2. Ryan Chung
3. Justin Tassin
4. Bill Pongratz ( Need Modifications)
5. Richard Marin ( Need Modifications)
6. Louis Lasch
7. Bill Covert
8. Joseph Schelly
9. Darrin Boji
10. Steve Pello
11. Frank Pletcher ( Need Modifications)
12. E. Joel Rivero ( Need Modifications)
13. John Chan
14. Randy Schultz
15. Paul Tadler ( Need Modifications)
16. Stephan Geraci
17. Matthew Garner ( Need Modifications)
18. Carl Martins
19. Jonathan Zmuda
20. Yen-Wei Liu
21. Sundy Hin

mrsteve

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Can we get Todd's email again so I don't have to dig it up.