In all seriousness, you seem to know a good bit about the Apple end. Maybe you have an answer to this question - why does Apple refuse to offer a user customizable EQ on the ipod, yet offer it in iTunes?

 

I bought an iphone today @ the 400 dollar price and rubbed it in my roomates face who spent 600 on his....

 

^^ you're a great roommate

 

Anyone else think that the top has been reached for AAPL? Sounds like disappointing sales numbers for the iPhone are coming.

 

Interview with Steve Jobs from http://www.usatoday.com/tech/product...bs-qanda_N.htm

 

I want to kick him in the nuts.

 

while he is down ill steal his wallet.

 

Regarding the storage size on the iTouch, I think it basically boils down to the fact that now is simply a bad time for Apple to be doing this product release. At least as far as the storage component cost it is. I have little doubt that Apple's strategy is to completely abandon hard drives from their mobile devices as quickly as they deem practical. Considering the huge volume of hard drives Apple consumes, I bet the agreements with the HD suppliers are in place at least a year prior to product release if not even earlier. So basically it boiled down to either A) committing to flash which is currently too expensive to reach their target price points at anything more than 16 GB or B) committing to order additional large volumes of the hard drives which they're trying to get away from.

 

ding ding ding. obviously i dont work for apple but I am sure a combination of the two is the reason. I mean I am sure if it has a 32gb SSD it would cost like 600 or 700 for the ipod touch.

 

That's a load of BS. This was one of the worst technology price cuts I can remember and he knows it. I want my $200 back from Apple, PRONTO. Oh wait.. I didn't buy an iphone...

 

Apple's PR department is probably banging their heads against the wall on Steve's response in that interview about the price cut.

 

No really?? Do you really "buy a lot on iTunes"

 

if I was a billionaire, I would probably do the same.

 

If I were a billionaire, chances are I would be playing my music on something other than the iPod earbuds. Assuming that is the case, no one in their right mind would ever buy a thing from iTunes. 128 kbps sounds terrible.

Were I rich, lazy, and willing to part with iTunes, I would buy from MusicGiants.com. Otherwise, until iTunes sells lossless, I'll stick with ripping CDs.

 

You're absolutely right - what am I smoking - I would never use iTunes, regardless of my financial status.

 

Dude, i was about to do an about face and start bashing the iphone and apple for the $200 thing when i remembered.............I got mine for free. Phew, Apple and Skeeve Jobs almost jerked me.

 

just don't drop it in a porta-potty toilet.

 

One of my friends was teasing me about having Sprint service and not having a "touch screen only" phone... what options do I have?...other than droppin Sprint...

BTW: i went to the HTC web site and they have some sick phones but i bet the are for other global markets...

 

This is hilarious. Apple could release the penulitimate media player with every feature anyone could ever want, and package in a whitegold case for $2 and 90% of wuld still find some reason to hate on it. While I dont love the new color choices, I think all the new ipods are great steps in the evolution of the product.

And as for the $200 price drop. Oh well. I paid to be one of the first people with an iphone and thats just the game. I didnt expect a price drop this soon or this much, but I'm not upset by it either. Actually, no one I know who I asked today that has an iphone was even remotely mad about it, and one of those guys just bought his last weekend. He is elligible for a refund/credit whatever because of the 14 day policy, but if he wasnt he was still not upset by it. I understand how some people will be angered, but hell its not the first time a company has done something like that. I paid my money, I love my phone, and now they made a huge incentive for even more people to get them, so hey, more power to them.

 

^true.

like i said, some people won't mind that they had to pay more as long as they were one of the first to get it. there were probably lots of people that paid more than the retail price just to be one of the first to have it.

 

Now that I have taken some time to think about this, for $400 the iPhone is going to be a huge player in the market. All of those overpriced complaints from me are gone, now its just pure

 

bingo and thats why its brilliant.

 

btw I tried checking my gmail on a friends iphone over the weekend.. mistake. I was shocked at how backwards its web browser functionality is. and the stupid keyboard.. am I right? it always shows the keys in CAPS, regardless of the shift setting it's actually in? gee, that's real fun when typing passwords. correct me if I'm wrong.

 

You know you are in caps if the shift key is "glowing" The browser works just like safari on a mac. there is nothing backwards about it.

 

I have some funky passwords and I've never even noticed that. The shift key lights up if its on (caps)...not really too difficult once you are used to it I guess.


Lately my browser has been quitting on me fairly often... just closes down and goes back to the home screen. Also clears out my history and cookies apparently... very frustrating, especially when on the EDGE network and it takes 5 minutes per page to load.


For the record I absolutely love my iPhone, just feel like venting a few frustrations after this $200 price cut bs.

 

i felt like my hands were tied trying to use it.. youre right, thats how i feel when using a mac too. f'ing stupid

 

You try turning off the phone and waiting at least 30 sec before rebooting? It is a mini computer afterall. That helped me out when my browser started to crash on Edge. Havent had an issue since.

 

Anyone buying the new Apple's right now didn't learn a lesson.....I will wait a bit for the "it's technology" price drop...

 

UK is now onboard....

http://www.apple.com/uk/ipodtouch/

199 (8) or 299(16) pounds.... The 8GB is $299...So its really about $400 (8) or $600 (16) in the UK I can buy one in the US when Im there since they are dual voltage.

 

god i hope so. jobs needs another ego check.

 

No, because Mac sales are through the roof. And the new product lineup will sell.

I don't know if Apple considers the iPhones sales disappointing. All the analysts set these "sales" targets. I believe I heard they'll sell their 1M iPhone this month. 300,000 per month isn't too bad, I guess???

1M at $599 a piece is pretty decent new revenue.





And yes, I'm still holding my shares.

 

yea he said in his presentation that they're on track to sell their 1 millionth iphone this month... so i don't think they're experiencing bad sales. But I think they realize that everyone has very aggressive estimates for the product and the price reduction, especially right before a prime buying time will help them meet or surpass these estimates. Plus, their profit margins were huge on a $599 phone... it costs them about $250 to produce the phone... sell at $399, that's still a $150 profit per phone sold. still damn good margins in my book. and yea, as scrib said... a lot of people aren't realizing their profit and growth is coming from mac sales now... macbooks and imacs. huge growth in that segment.

don't get me wrong, i'm not a huge apple fanboy, but they do have good products and the stock has encountered resistance around $145. I actually think this presents a great buying opportunity if you want to go long. Should the 145 barrier be breached I think its going to $160 by february/march. However, for the near term, it will trade in a range of 130-140. new ipods, new imacs, macbooks selling strong, leopard new OS coming out soon, iphone sales on track, great margins, itunes revenue etc etc. There are a lot of good reasons to own this stock, especially when tech is experiencing a huge influx of cash right now from institutional investors (banks, hedge funds). RIMM, HPQ, AMZN, GOOG, EMC all have been rippin it up lately, and it should continue. tech is solid play especially since it isn't involved in the sub-prime or credit crunch mess.

disclosure: long AAPL, HPQ

 

I purchased my Apple stock for around $3 a share. Talk about a return on your investment.

 

So you were 15 and bought it in December '97 when it was in the mid $3s split adjusted?

 

Yeah that'd be about right. I was in high school at the time. That was my first stock I purchased. Also had RadioShack for a while when it split 3 times in a year. Dumped it before they went downhill.

 

muah hahahhaha.......Steve jobs must really hate apple fan boys as well. Talk about rubbing the price drop in their face.

 

maybe he doesn't hate them that much---

Apple to issue $100 store credit to early adopters

To all iPhone customers:

I have received hundreds of emails from iPhone customers who are upset about Apple dropping the price of iPhone by $200 two months after it went on sale. After reading every one of these emails, I have some observations and conclusions.

First, I am sure that we are making the correct decision to lower the price of the 8GB iPhone from $599 to $399, and that now is the right time to do it. iPhone is a breakthrough product, and we have the chance to 'go for it' this holiday season. iPhone is so far ahead of the competition, and now it will be affordable by even more customers. It benefits both Apple and every iPhone user to get as many new customers as possible in the iPhone 'tent'. We strongly believe the $399 price will help us do just that this holiday season.

Second, being in technology for 30+ years I can attest to the fact that the technology road is bumpy. There is always change and improvement, and there is always someone who bought a product before a particular cutoff date and misses the new price or the new operating system or the new whatever. This is life in the technology lane. If you always wait for the next price cut or to buy the new improved model, you'll never buy any technology product because there is always something better and less expensive on the horizon. The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of useful and satisfying service from them even as newer models are introduced.

Third, even though we are making the right decision to lower the price of iPhone, and even though the technology road is bumpy, we need to do a better job taking care of our early iPhone customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price. Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these.

Therefore, we have decided to offer every iPhone customer who purchased an iPhone from either Apple or AT&T, and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online Store. Details are still being worked out and will be posted on Apple's website next week. Stay tuned.

We want to do the right thing for our valued iPhone customers. We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to live up to your high expectations of Apple.

Steve Jobs

 

Apple does the smart thing

 

apple to offer 100 credit to early adopters. Details next week

Edit: beat me to it