New iPods Sept 5th, let's speculate!!
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We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to live up to your high expectations of Apple.
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Why couldn't Apple use one of these
Toshiba crams 160GB into 1.8inch-HDD
Both models of Toshiba's new 1.8-inch HDD as compared to the size of an AA battery (Source: Toshiba)Toshiba crams 160GB into 1.8-inch HDD
Storage capacity never ceases to increase, while form factor appears to move in the inverse direction. Toshiba Storage Device Division announced its 160GB 1.8-inch hard disk drive. The new drive uses the CE-ATA interface – designed for optimal performance and power utilization in small devices – and marks the first drive from Toshiba with the technology.
In addition to the two-platter 160GB drive, Toshiba will also offer a single-platter 80GB model. Both drives achieve an areal density of 353 megabits per square millimetre (228 gigabits per square inch). In addition to increased capacity, Toshiba has reduced the power consumption of the 160GB HDD to 0.002W/GB, which is 33 percent less than the previous 1.8-inch 100GB model, said the company.
"Toshiba's new 1.8-inch HDDs build on our long-time leadership in this key product segment and gives CE manufacturers the tools to create smaller, lighter and more compelling handheld devices," said Scott Maccabe, vice president and general manager of Toshiba Storage Device Division. "Storage is an integral part of the digital experience, and these small form factor HDDs deliver the capacity, power efficiency and throughput to support, if not accelerate, consumer demand for sophisticated portable computing, multimedia and entertainment devices."
Toshiba’s new 80 and 160GB drives are expected to be used digital audio players, digital video recorders, copiers, mobile PCs and more. Interestingly, the capacities of Toshiba’s newly announced drives match up with the storage sizes of the newest iPod classic players announced yesterday – though neither company has made any indication of which drives Apple is sourcing.
The new 1.8-inch HDDs are being integrated by OEM partners for consumer products slated for the holiday season.
Toshiba crams 160GB into 1.8inch-HDD
Both models of Toshiba's new 1.8-inch HDD as compared to the size of an AA battery (Source: Toshiba)Toshiba crams 160GB into 1.8-inch HDD
Storage capacity never ceases to increase, while form factor appears to move in the inverse direction. Toshiba Storage Device Division announced its 160GB 1.8-inch hard disk drive. The new drive uses the CE-ATA interface – designed for optimal performance and power utilization in small devices – and marks the first drive from Toshiba with the technology.
In addition to the two-platter 160GB drive, Toshiba will also offer a single-platter 80GB model. Both drives achieve an areal density of 353 megabits per square millimetre (228 gigabits per square inch). In addition to increased capacity, Toshiba has reduced the power consumption of the 160GB HDD to 0.002W/GB, which is 33 percent less than the previous 1.8-inch 100GB model, said the company.
"Toshiba's new 1.8-inch HDDs build on our long-time leadership in this key product segment and gives CE manufacturers the tools to create smaller, lighter and more compelling handheld devices," said Scott Maccabe, vice president and general manager of Toshiba Storage Device Division. "Storage is an integral part of the digital experience, and these small form factor HDDs deliver the capacity, power efficiency and throughput to support, if not accelerate, consumer demand for sophisticated portable computing, multimedia and entertainment devices."
Toshiba’s new 80 and 160GB drives are expected to be used digital audio players, digital video recorders, copiers, mobile PCs and more. Interestingly, the capacities of Toshiba’s newly announced drives match up with the storage sizes of the newest iPod classic players announced yesterday – though neither company has made any indication of which drives Apple is sourcing.
The new 1.8-inch HDDs are being integrated by OEM partners for consumer products slated for the holiday season.
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iPhone Price Cut: 10 Reasons Why Apple Did It
Apple (AAPL) watchers have been pondering the question overnight and have come up with at least 10 other possibilities. Cutting and pasting from various websites, we offer them here:
1. Sales are slowing, and a price drop will re-invigorate them.
2. Other smartphones are entering the market and a $399 price tag kicks those where it hurts.
3. iPhone is a classic platinum turkey -- a high-end phone that sells a million units rapidly but then quickly loses momentum.
4. The new iPod touch was likely to undermine iPhone sales.
5. Apple early adopters would have paid any price. $600 was just short term profit maximization for the launch.
6. Apple has reached a milestone that can justify a price cut. Development costs have been recouped. (It'll be a lot cheaper to produce the next million iPhones than the first, so Apple hasn't given away its margin.)
7. iPod Touch and iPhone share certain parts, thus bringing manufacturing costs down for both products.
8. Apple promised AT&T the price cut if they could offer the iPod touch this holiday season.
9. If Apple learned anything from the Mac war with Wintel, it was that maintaining hardware margins at the expense of marketshare was a mistake.
10. Clearing out inventory to make way for a 3G iPhone ASAP.
1. Sales are slowing, and a price drop will re-invigorate them.
2. Other smartphones are entering the market and a $399 price tag kicks those where it hurts.
3. iPhone is a classic platinum turkey -- a high-end phone that sells a million units rapidly but then quickly loses momentum.
4. The new iPod touch was likely to undermine iPhone sales.
5. Apple early adopters would have paid any price. $600 was just short term profit maximization for the launch.
6. Apple has reached a milestone that can justify a price cut. Development costs have been recouped. (It'll be a lot cheaper to produce the next million iPhones than the first, so Apple hasn't given away its margin.)
7. iPod Touch and iPhone share certain parts, thus bringing manufacturing costs down for both products.
8. Apple promised AT&T the price cut if they could offer the iPod touch this holiday season.
9. If Apple learned anything from the Mac war with Wintel, it was that maintaining hardware margins at the expense of marketshare was a mistake.
10. Clearing out inventory to make way for a 3G iPhone ASAP.
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8. Apple promised AT&T the price cut if they could offer the iPod touch this holiday season.
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Originally Posted by srika
cuz it would make the Touch cost $700?? I think people would still buy it though... LOL!!!
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Why couldn't Apple use one of these
Toshiba crams 160GB into 1.8inch-HDD
Toshiba crams 160GB into 1.8inch-HDD
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Does this mean Apple will put a HD in the iTouch?
Apple is going for the future they want to use flash drives. Less heat and less battery use. The offer 80 and 160 gb classic for those who want their entire library with them.
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Originally Posted by Billiam
Expense comes from flash, not hard drives. How could they sell the 160GB classic for $349 otherwise.
Originally Posted by srika
Its a new, thin 160GB drive.. it will cost a pretty penny! And, I would argue the opposite, RAM is dirt cheap!
Plus, the new hard-drives are likely the ones being used in the iPod classic.
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Originally Posted by srika
Its a new, thin 160GB drive.. it will cost a pretty penny! And, I would argue the opposite, RAM is dirt cheap!
I think these are the drives in the 80 and 160 gb ipod classic
and i'm happy they are giving me the credit. now i can buy a nano for mad cheap. as sirka said, would have been nice to see the $200 credit....but....what you gonna do. i'll pay $100 early adopter tax. 200 was to much, but i can live with 100
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Originally Posted by ViperrepiV
I think these are the drives in the 80 and 160 gb ipod classic
and i'm happy they are giving me the credit. now i can buy a nano for mad cheap. as sirka said, would have been nice to see the $200 credit....but....what you gonna do. i'll pay $100 early adopter tax. 200 was to much, but i can live with 100
and i'm happy they are giving me the credit. now i can buy a nano for mad cheap. as sirka said, would have been nice to see the $200 credit....but....what you gonna do. i'll pay $100 early adopter tax. 200 was to much, but i can live with 100
for the $100 credit.
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Originally Posted by ViperrepiV
<---- feels raped over the iphone
I had expected to pay an early adopter tax, but a $200 price drop (33%!), and one this soon, is a kick in the balls
I had expected to pay an early adopter tax, but a $200 price drop (33%!), and one this soon, is a kick in the balls
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w00t! i got a credit of $217.50 courtesy of my American Express business card 
now if only they could offer me the same coverage on my Amex Blue card for the stupid LG dual format player i got a little over 30 days ago that has now been replaced with a $200 cheaper model
now if only they could offer me the same coverage on my Amex Blue card for the stupid LG dual format player i got a little over 30 days ago that has now been replaced with a $200 cheaper model
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damn - no wonder he apologized!!
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Apple shares fell $1.75, or 1.3 percent, to $135.01 in trading Thursday on the Nasdaq Stock Market. On Wednesday, after the price cut was announced, shares had fallen 5 percent.
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Originally Posted by BEETROOT
Soopa, how did you manage that? Amex covers price drops? Will you get the apple credit on top of that?
Amex > Apple.
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Originally Posted by ViperrepiV
man, you are lucky you fell into that window! I got it the day after it came out, and i'm a few days out of the zone.
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Originally Posted by soopa
Amex used to offer a 60-day price drop policy, but it expired last October. They said "we're making an exception for iPhone buyers because we feel Apple did wrong by their customers".
Amex > Apple.
Amex > Apple.
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Originally Posted by Scrib
I can't recall if this is offered on the AMEX Blue or not.
it seems to me like Amex is just trying to help people out.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
should the chat program for the iphone you are using work on the ipod touch you think.
Originally Posted by soopa
ipod touch is compatible with all iphone apps, only problem is the touch can only use them when in wifi range whereas phone can use them whenever.
how bout a to do list or notepad type app?
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Originally Posted by soopa
ipod touch is compatible with all iphone apps, only problem is the touch can only use them when in wifi range whereas phone can use them whenever.