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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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The bar dropping thing isn't a big deal, not to me anyway. I was simply pointing out the fact that the store demo did it too. I actually don't talk that much on the cell phone. Mainly text and web browsing. Plus, I mainly use my right hand to hold the phone. But I'm still gonna wait til later.

But that screen was simply amazing!
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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When driving, I generally use the left had to talk and the right hand to hold the steering wheel. Of course this is seldom because of the bluetooth connectivity to the RL.

But regardless, this is BS. I hate all the hassle of switching companies, but the Droid X looks pretty good.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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On Jimmy Fallon last night, he had some guest from Engadget on, he brought both the i4 and the Evo (I think, or whatever the first 4g phone is), and side by side, the Evo did looked impressive.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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It wasn't the evo, iirc, it was the droid x
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Actually on 3G the pages load alot faster
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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And I'm on 1 bar right now
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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Geezus, this shit is getting pretty warm/hot to the touch.

And I have to keep remembering when I type in landscape not to connect the 2 antennas or I kill off data/cell service
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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So, great product or just a big tease in a more rectangular look...?
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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Weird, earlier it said it didn't support charging with the car charger, now it works
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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I think i'm going to get the bumper case anyway which sounds like it's a perm fix to the problem. I really don't want to deal with a shattered phone...
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Apple better ship me a free case!
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Interesting...

Just got off the phone with Apple. They're sending me an overnight replacement. They're aware of this issue, and I was told that a batch of phones went out without some sort of protective coating (jives with the comment about clear nail polish).
Yet another manufacturing issue?
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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I got to play with the demo at the Apple Store. There's still 2 lines at 1PM but at least they were covered. I held the demo with my left and didn't lose signal. The surfing on 3G wasn't that impressive as I loaded up the Miami Herald site. The mobile launched fairly quickly but not noticeable from my 3GS. But the full site page never loaded so I said screw it and checked other features. The flash light is bright as hell. The phone feels very solid in my hand. The metal around the edges really improved holding the phone, I really like the flat bottom. The video recording was pretty good even with the plastic over the back. Didn't get to try out any gyroscoping and the employee with the demo was pretty clueless. No yellow spots neither. Glad I didn't go through the stress of waiting for my order or paying $100 as I'm happy with my 3GS.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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i have bumper on.. seems it doesn't really help
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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i have bumper on.. seems it doesn't really help
How does it feel? Is it sticky and get caught in your pocket? Or smooth and streamline?
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Glad mine's not having this issue...I hate cases!
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Mine works great!
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by petec2010
How does it feel? Is it sticky and get caught in your pocket? Or smooth and streamline?
i take it back... i was holding my phone with bumper for 2 minutes and it was at full bars

it's pretty smooth and not sticky in the pocket..

i actually don't mind this.. i wouldn't say i love it... just alright
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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So it can do everything great, except handle the phone part correctly? Steve jobs needs to get his priorities right. Even the other iphones had worse call quality than other phones.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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^ never used any other phone other than iphone on ATT... but it's iphone, not ATT's cellular network?
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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Issues

From BBC news...

A number of users are reporting problems with their iPhone 4.

Apple's latest device went on sale today, with hundreds of people queuing outside Apple's flagship store in central London for the launch.

The issue relates to the mobile phone signal, with users reporting a drop in signal strength when the phone is held.

The casing of Apple's latest phone is made of stainless steel, which also serves as its antenna.

Richard Warner, who bought his iPhone 4 this morning, contacted BBC News, saying that he thought the phone was "useless in its current state".

"Apple have created a phone that has an antenna on the bottom left-hand side of the phone.

"This means that when you hold it in your left hand, the signal bars slowly fade until there is no signal," he wrote.

A number of videos have been posted on video sharing site YouTube complaining about the reception issue.

One video had an American user running a speed test, with hands on and hands free.

In it, the user 'awington' says that, while holding the phone "it won't even run the test when I am holding the phone...once I let go, it makes a connection and runs the test.

"Hold it a second time, and the upload test will not start."

Social networking site Twitter was full of chatter, with numerous tweets on the reception problems.

The issue might stem from the way the integrated antenna is constructed. One section provides mobile reception, while another is for Wi-Fi.

Some users have speculated that touching the bottom of the phone bridges this gap, affecting signal strength.

However, it is not yet clear whether the problem affects all phones, or if the signal deteriorates when the phone is making a call or only when held in standby mode.

When Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone 4 at Apple Worldwide Developers Conference, he described the integrated antenna as "really cool engineering".

Apple has yet to make a comment on the current controversy surrounding the latest version of its popular phone.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Flakey screens reported too...

SOME PROPORTION OF Iphone 4 users who unbox their shiny expensive toys are finding that Apple shipped them with dodgy screens.

We know that touchscreen parts are in short supply in Asia at the moment so it appears that Apple could not be too choosy about the ones that ended up in the final product. However it appears that the quality level has slipped a bit.

According to Apple's Iphone support forum, some users are finding that there are colour flaws on their displays.

"On the bottom 10 per cent of the screen there were three blotches about the size of shirt buttons that discolour the screen a brown/yellow colour," one user complained. Another user spotted the problem in the upper left hand corner of the display. Yet others say that they are seeing lines across the screen.

One Iphone 4 bloke who asked others if they had problems had his post pulled, probably because of rules against polling users. Others insist that the problem may not be permanent, apparently hoping that Iphones are magical self-healing devices.

Others say that calls to their Apple Genius bar are backed up and no one is answering.

While there is no doubt that Apple will fix the dodgy displays, it might be tricky for it to do so with the displays in such short supply. It is also not clear what the extent of the problem will be at this point, as boxes are just starting to arrive on people's doorsteps.

No doubt Apple will tell us that the problem is only affecting a small number of users and there will be shedloads of comments below telling us that they had their Iphone 4 delivered and it works perfectly.

This will be cold comfort for those users who pre-ordered them and their screens are broken. The whole point about an Apple product is that you are supposed to spend a fortune on it so it "just works". µ

Story here: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...eens-defective
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by is300eater
The bar dropping thing isn't a big deal, not to me anyway. I was simply pointing out the fact that the store demo did it too. I actually don't talk that much on the cell phone. Mainly text and web browsing. Plus, I mainly use my right hand to hold the phone. But I'm still gonna wait til later.

But that screen was simply amazing!
That is a big deal when you can't hold the phone or it goes dead for reception. Why have a cell phone then? LOL. Major failure on Apples part.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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Glad I am getting a EVO 4g when they get them back in stock.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
You read the article wrong!

Guess who's left handed.....

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This has to be the stupid design flaw I've ever fucking seen. My god! I thought you had people testing these phones out in the wild. I'm at a loss for words right now to express the sheer stupidity of this!

:ibsomestupidappledefensivecommentfromsarlacc:

FWIW, Engadget said that their review unit didn't have this problem. So maybe mine won't but honestly I don't even want to open it now.
Actually they said theirs did have the problem.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/o...ne-4-now-what/

"And, well, we have to mention this -- make sure you hold the phone in your left hand and check to see if reception is affected. We have no idea how widespread this problem is, but it's clearly affecting some people (including us), and you should definitely make sure your phone is trouble-free."
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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by the way, with my bumper on and my palm around that area causing signal weakening, i ran speedtest and got 270kilobytes (not kilobits) per second download
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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You know on Gilligan's Island they at least tested two coconuts and a string before releasing it to the seven castaways.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
That is a big deal when you can't hold the phone or it goes dead for reception. Why have a cell phone then? LOL. Major failure on Apples part.
First of all, you have it backwards. People that are claiming reception issues are saying that it happens when you're holding (mostly with the left hand, with the palm pressed ip against the left bumper). NOT when you're NOT holding the i4

2nd, if you re-read my post... I said it's not a big deal TO ME, because how I use the device. Do I need to explain what "to me" means?
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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^ lol

yea it's kinda sad that there is such problem exist, but not big deal for me either since i use my earphone and now that i have bumper..

but yea.. it's bad
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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i like my iphone 4.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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First of all, you have it backwards. People that are claiming reception issues are saying that it happens when you're holding (mostly with the left hand, with the palm pressed ip against the left bumper). NOT when you're NOT holding the i4

2nd, if you re-read my post... I said it's not a big deal TO ME, because how I use the device. Do I need to explain what "to me" means?
No, it isn't just with the palm. If you are touching the left side pieces only. The bottom piece, and the upper left side piece is all it takes. I usually hold my phone like that with fingers to my ear.

Either way, it is STILL a major flaw. So you can't deny that or say well it doesn't affect me when it does in reality. It still has the flaw.

See video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-BR-LgA9Lw
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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i like my iphone 4.
I like my 3Gs, just don't like AT&T.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 06:10 PM
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Oh, really? I guess I'll wait til they iron out all the bugs. These first batch i4s are probably cursed by the factory workers that committed suicide
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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Got mine...no issues

Same typical bullshit of people making mountains our of molehills.

Find better hobbies...
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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How much of a discount does Verizon give to government employees?

I ask because I think I want the Droid X... ATT discounts my 2100 family plan to $89.99 plus added lines of $9.99. The next thing Verizon has is 2000 family minutes at $129.99... a big difference.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Got mine...no issues

Same typical bullshit of people making mountains our of molehills.

Find better hobbies...
I have to agree... people need to go all wharrgarbl over stuff I guess.

But for me, if I can get a better signal and download speeds as long as I don't hold it in one particular spot, then I vote for the better signal and download speeds. I use my earpiece/headset and bt in my car more than anything so not really a big deal. My 2 are sitting at home (one for the wife), I can't wait to get out of class to play.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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got mine no issues at all.

got it film wraped from both sides
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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got mine no issues at all.

got it film wraped from both sides
what did you use? clear film or anti glare?

i like clarity of no film right now, but i just like the feel of anti-glare one and the fact that it's hard to get a finger-print on those makes me want to put them on this as well
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by yohan81718
what did you use? clear film or anti glare?

i like clarity of no film right now, but i just like the feel of anti-glare one and the fact that it's hard to get a finger-print on those makes me want to put them on this as well
clear coat film i really cant tell the difference at all.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Got mine...no issues

Same typical bullshit of people making mountains our of molehills.

Find better hobbies...
Hmm all of them are having issues. You are just not holding it correctly or you have some type of cover.
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