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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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Can't wait for the anti-trust suit. I tried the Kindle app on the iPad and I can't stand it. Too bright. My Kindle reader is much better IMO.
You can adjust all that. I prefer to read with the black with white lettering.

But no. It's not e-ink. I still enjoy using it for books.
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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Apple rejected the Sony app because it didn't redirect you to Safari to buy something. Kindle and Nook do.

At least, that's their bullshit argument. They say it's about in-app purchases. Funny, games allow it all the time.
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Yeah the only advantages I see with e-readers are the sun issue and of course the price. A lot of people want to get in on the tablet reading thing but don't want to spend $400 vs $150. There's a lot of non-tech savvy people that don't care about the extra features.
I have no problems reading my Kindle in the sun.
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
Apple rejected the Sony app because it didn't redirect you to Safari to buy something. Kindle and Nook do.

At least, that's their bullshit argument. They say it's about in-app purchases. Funny, games allow it all the time.
Games do it because they give a 30% cut to Apple for in app
Purchases.

I'm guessing Sony was going to do in app purchasing but wasn't going to give apple 30%.
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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Apple Now Requiring eBook Applications With External Purchases to Also Offer In App Purchasing
Tuesday February 01, 2011 12:17 PM
Following up on last night's story revealing that Apple had rejected a Sony Reader iOS application for eBooks, All Things Digital has received an official statement from Apple clarifying the company's position. According to the company, Apple has not changed its terms, but is simply enforcing existing ones that require applications offering content for purchase outside of the application to also offer the content via Apple's in-app purchasing mechanisms.
Apple's made no change to its App Store Guidlines, it's simply enforcing a rule that's been in them all along: apps that offer purchases elsewhere must support in-app purchases as well. �We have not changed our developer terms or guidelines," company spokesperson Trudy Miller told me. "We are now requiring that if an app offers customers the ability to purchase books outside of the app, that the same option is also available to customers from within the app with in-app purchase."

While short of the originally-feared banning of all external content purchasing methods, the new enforcement does raise additional questions about how such popular eBook applications as Kindle will deal with the requirement. Notably, will in-app purchases be required to be priced at the same level as external purchases, and if so, how will content providers respond to Apple taking its 30% cut of revenue from the in-app purchasing method that is more convenient for consumers than the external purchasing method that sends all revenue to the provider?
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
I have no problems reading my Kindle in the sun.
Exactly. The glare makes it hard to read iPads in the sun.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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On the evening before the launch of the Verizon iPhone, the embargo for early review units have been lifted. This early set of reviews provides a look at the early verdict on the Verizon iPhone. Reviews and some highlights are listed here.

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- "With a few minor variations, it looks, feels, and works just like the AT&T iPhone 4"
- iOS 4.2.6
- Good distance on mobile Hotspot
- "if you're using the Internet and your phone rings, your Internet connection immediately drops"

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- "This Verizon version of the iPhone 4 seems to have none of the same antenna issues [as the AT&T model]
- Much better with signal / lack of dropped calls than the AT&T model (in San Francisco)
- "the iPhone 4 can give you a solid 4 hours of hotspot/tethering time"

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- "the Verizon model did much, much better with voice calls"
- "AT&T's network averaged 46% faster at download speeds and 24% faster at upload speeds."

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- "Calls were consistently connected and uninterrupted, far more often than our AT&T calls in the same time period in similar locations."
- "data rates on the Verizon iPhone 4 we tested were dramatically slower than those on its AT&T counterpart."

Overall, there seem to be few surprises. Lack of simultaneous voice and data has been known and those in weak AT&T are having much better luck with Verizon, but data speeds are better on AT&T.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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AT&T today announced forthcoming changes to its smartphone tethering data plans, increasing the monthly data limit to 4 GB from the current 2 GB cap. The change, set to take effect on February 13th, comes as AT&T rolls out mobile hotspot functionality for the new HTC Inspire 4G handset, although the company has not addressed whether it will support the similar hotspot functionality for the iPhone once iOS 4.3 is released to the public.
In addition, also on February 13th, to bring AT&T's smartphone tethering plan in line with the AT&T Mobile Hotspot offer, AT&T will automatically add the additional 2GB of monthly data usage to smartphone customers already on a tethering plan - at no extra charge. Customers will incur the same $20 monthly fee they're accustomed to paying, only now they'll receive an extra 2GB of data each month.

AT&T currently offers two monthly data plans for iPhone customers: DataPlus with 200 MB of data for $15 and DataPro with 2 GB of data for $25. Tethering is available to DataPro customers for an additional charge of $20 per month, but until now has not offered any additional data capacity, with tethering data coming out of the same 2 GB cap allotted to regular smartphone use. The changes announced today essentially mean that the extra $20 tethering fee will also bring customers an additional 2 GB of data per month to be used between their phone and tethered devices.
shouldve been done since the beginning, no sense to have tethering and stuck with the default 2GB.
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 12:06 AM
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Data cap ftl. This is why I do not want to switch carriers.
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 01:24 AM
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who do you have?

verizon is doing/going to do it too.
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
who do you have?

verizon is doing/going to do it too.
According to the latest news, Verizon will allow an unlimited data plan for its phone, though possibly for a limited time.
Existing Verizon Wireless subscribers will be the first to get their hands on the carrier’s new iPhone. The company says current customers can preorder the device Thursday, Feb. 3, and they’ll receive them on or before Feb. 10, when the general public is able to start buying the popular smartphone at retail outlets.


Here’s the scoop on pricing, according to the Associated Press: Basic voice – with 450 minutes – will set you back $40. Add another $20 for voice and unlimited texting, with those plans starting at $60; an unlimited data plan with Web and e-mail will cost you another $30/month. You can also get a Wi-Fi hotspot option for an additional $20/month, bringing the grand total to $110 if you want all of the bells and whistles.


There are a fewdifferences between what Verizon is offering and what you can get from AT&T. The AT&T voice and text plan doesn’t include unlimited texts; the hotspot is a function AT&T doesn’t have; and AT&T’s data plan isn’t unlimited, although the carrier believes the monthly 2GB limit is enough for most customers.


Verizon announced the unlimited data plan last week but then acknowledged it might be for a limited time only.


The cost of the Verizon iPhone itself will be the same as it is on AT&T’s network: $199 for the 16GB version and $299 for the 32GB phone.
http://www.vision2mobile.com/news/20...-unveiled.aspx
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 01:57 AM
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i know that, but i wasnt talking about only the iPhone.
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 02:07 AM
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so anyone trying to get the Verizon iPhone?

wonder if the sites getting hammered
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 02:43 AM
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Is it true that the Verizon iPhones will be slightly de-contented? I heard that CDMA hardware takes up more room than the equivalent GSM hardware, and that the Verizon phones will be crippled in some way, but I can't remember how.
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 02:50 AM
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FYI, AT&T quietly renabled the "Unlimited" data plan for the iPhone after Verizon announced their unlimited plan. Competition is good, apparently if you call and threaten to switch to verizon then they'll give you unlimited Also they're offering a 1000 text plan for $10/mo. It used to be 400/1500/unlimited. Now I can save another $5/mo with the 1000 text plan.

Now they just need to start competing on voice and data prices. Sprint and Verizon need to get in the mix....

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...0Top%20Stories)

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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 05:50 AM
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200 texts is the lowest plan @$5.
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
who do you have?

verizon is doing/going to do it too.

T-Mobile. Unlimited data and no extra charge for tethering.
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
FYI, AT&T quietly renabled the "Unlimited" data plan for the iPhone after Verizon announced their unlimited plan. Competition is good, apparently if you call and threaten to switch to verizon then they'll give you unlimited Also they're offering a 1000 text plan for $10/mo. It used to be 400/1500/unlimited. Now I can save another $5/mo with the 1000 text plan.

Now they just need to start competing on voice and data prices. Sprint and Verizon need to get in the mix....

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...0Top%20Stories)
Always been on unlimited data plan
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
200 texts is the lowest plan @$5.
Oh that's right. They used to have a 400 plan that I used until they got rid of it and my choice was either 200 or 1500, which was either not enough or way too much.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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Anyone try the new Greenpois0n jailbreak for 4.2.1? Is it really worth jailbreaking anymore?
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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Anyone try the new Greenpois0n jailbreak for 4.2.1? Is it really worth jailbreaking anymore?
Did two iphones and an Ipad so far.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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I was thinking about it, but 4.3 is due very soon. I'm waiting to see if I'll want to update first.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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Anyone try the new Greenpois0n jailbreak for 4.2.1? Is it really worth jailbreaking anymore?
Kept crashing on launch on my iMac...

Still on 4.0.1
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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The first GP release was horrible but they released and update that fixed most of the issues and then they've released an update since then. Also it's available on Windows now. So if you couldn't get it to work the first time, try the newer version.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
so anyone trying to get the Verizon iPhone?

wonder if the sites getting hammered
I did awaken at 3 AM on Thursday to order my VZW iPhone. I am a current AT&T iPhone user (switched 2 1/2 years ago specifically for iPhone 3G...now have 3GS) but find the service outside of urban areas awful. I kept my wife's phone on VZW precisely for that reason....she'd have 4 bars with her phone where I'd have only one bar....of EDGE.

We do a lot of road trips and adequate coverage is mandatory. I therefore am switching my service back "home" to VZW.

My iPhone is currently sitting in one of the delivery hubs in Cleveland and should be delivered in the AM. Can't wait!

Doing my best to keep my APPL stock price up! (bought at $7, split adjusted )

BTW, the reviews are saying that the VZW iPhone is not in the least decontented, and has no native VZW software on it. There is the option to load that crap on via the App Store. I sure don't plan to!
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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yea the reviews say that it still has dropped calls, but not as often as AT&T, much more reliable. but keep in mind this is before the flood of iPhones hit the network.

also the data transfer rates are significantly slower.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 07:27 PM
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Not worried about the VZW network. It's handling the massive influx (millions?) of Droid devices over the last 14 months very nicely. The data speeds don't matter either, because you have to have a data connection to experience the fast data speeds AT&T offers. I have been a VZW customer for 17 years and was a data customer for 7 years prior to switching my line to AT&T. I have had very few problems with them, no matter where in the country I travel. We'll see what happens with millions of iPhones, though....
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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Verizon has about 50% of Android users while AT&T has 100%. I'm sticking with AT&T cause coverage is fine for me and the fact that AT&T has much faster 3G can be a big benefit for me when I'm tethering.

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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
The first GP release was horrible but they released and update that fixed most of the issues and then they've released an update since then. Also it's available on Windows now. So if you couldn't get it to work the first time, try the newer version.
I downloaded it yesterday, from the greenpoison website
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 02:30 AM
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It came out Thursday night and that version was very buggy. I spent hours trying and failed every time. By Friday afternoon they came out with a version that fixed the big bugs and then another version on Saturday that fixed even more.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 07:59 AM
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Do you iPhoners notice that at concerts or pro games with large groups your 3G sucks ass. I can never post to my FB or Foursquare until I leave. Too many iPhoners?
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 08:18 AM
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^ That's when you turn off 3G and use Edge network. It at least works much better for phone calls, dunno bout data though.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Ohh I see, thanks for the info Stunna. I was preparing to use redsnow tonight but I wasn't sure if it would work since they are both new iPhone 4's with 4.2.1 that have never been jailbroken (no saved SHSH blobs).

I think I'll use redsnow on my phone regardless.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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Can't get my son's Iphone 3G into DFU
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 12:12 PM
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Turn phone off, Power + Home for 10 seconds, continue holding Home button for ~15 seconds, done.

IIRC, the key is to let go of the power button right before the Apple logo pops up.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by v6cord2k5
Turn phone off, Power + Home for 10 seconds, continue holding Home button for ~15 seconds, done.

IIRC, the key is to let go of the power button right before the Apple logo pops up.
Thanks CO. Ive done 3 other ones and and Ipad, this one no go.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by v6cord2k5
Ohh I see, thanks for the info Stunna. I was preparing to use redsnow tonight but I wasn't sure if it would work since they are both new iPhone 4's with 4.2.1 that have never been jailbroken (no saved SHSH blobs).

I think I'll use redsnow on my phone regardless.
To get untethered JB using redsn0w you currently need 4.2b3 blobs but they have found a way to get untethered using 4.1 blobs but I guess neither of those will help you....

I think your only option is GP
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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Do you iPhoners notice that at concerts or pro games with large groups your 3G sucks ass. I can never post to my FB or Foursquare until I leave. Too many iPhoners?
Not just concerts or sports.
Also happens where there are large conventions. CES AEE macworld WWDC, etc.

But yea switch to edge, that sometimes/usually helps
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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i updated my 3GS to 4.2.1 and jailbroken it with greenpois0n.
works fine
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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used the poison last night

my gf just got a mytouch 4g and i really wanted the swipe down menu and all the nifty cool shit so i jailbroke.

android has the best stuff

now i have lockinfo on my ip4 (not running for other people, had to use the http://apt.saurik.com/debs/ ) to fix the dependencies and install other apps.

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