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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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A new report from Czech Republic-based SuperiPhone (Translated Link) claims to have confirmed the resolution of the fourth-generation iPhone’s display at 960 x 640. Using a microscope, the publication compared a display component supposedly meant for the fourth-generation iPhone to the displays of an iPhone 3GS, iPod touch, and Google Nexus One. Based on their results, the report claims that the display does have a resolution of 960 x 640, which results in a density of 320 ppi, and also uses the same IPS technology found in the iPad. John Gruber of Daring Fireball first suggested that the next iPhone would sport a 960 x 640 display in March, later explaining that the quadruple resolution—compared to existing iPhones and iPod touches—would allow current applications to be upscaled with little to no discernable difference in quality
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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of a repost i guess

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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 11:46 PM
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hay guys i heard next iphone will have 960 x 480 screen...
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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AT&T, wireless provider for Apple's iPhone, on Monday will become the first major mobile phone company to stop offering new smartphone customers a single monthly price for unlimited Internet access — likely presaging an industry shift to charges based on how much people use their phones to access videos, music and data. AT&T expects the new pricing to boost sales. "Some customers, up until now, have been hesitant to sign up for a $30 monthly data plan" for unlimited access, says Ralph de la Vega, CEO of AT&T Mobility and Consumer Markets. Existing customers can switch to the new pricing or keep their current all-you-can-eat service.
Newcomers will have two options: Under the DataPlus plan, subscribers can pay $15 a month for 200 megabytes of data; that would handle about 400 photos or 100 minutes of streaming video. The DataPro plan offers 10 times that capacity, 2 gigabytes, for $25.

AT&T will send text alerts to customers near their limits. DataPlus customers who go over will be charged $15 for an additional 200 MB. DataPro users will pay $10 for an extra 1 GB.

AT&T says 65% of its smartphone customers use less than 200 MB a month, and 98% use less than 2 GB.

But, largely due to the success of the iPhone, AT&T "has the most loaded and most used data network in the U.S.," says Roger Entner, head of telecom research at Nielsen.

And just 3% of AT&T's smartphone customers account for as much as 40% of its data traffic, contributing to slow transmissions and dropped calls. AT&T must control heavy users, or at least get them to pay more, Entner says.

With the limited airwave spectrum available for wireless broadband, he adds, it's just a matter of time before other providers — including Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile— switch to usage-based pricing.

Verizon Wireless CEO Lowell McAdam said last week that it would "make sense" to have such pricing later this year when his company introduces a speedy 4G service.

Apple's new iPad tablet also uses AT&T's wireless service. The new pricing will offer those customers 2 GB for $25 a month; current customers can keep their unlimited service offer for $29.99 a month.

IPhone customers who pay an extra $20 a month soon will be able to use the phones to provide Internet connections for laptops or other devices. That process, called tethering, will be available on 3G iPhones this summer when Apple releases a new operating system, AT&T says.

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then again I've only used 6GB of data since august of 09'
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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I was about to say F that, but noticed for as much as I use it, I still only go 1-1.5GB per month.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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I was about to say F off as well (even though people with unlimited plans are grandfathered.)

But looking at my past bills and my data trend....My highest 3 months last summer (lots of travel like this summer will be) I think the most I ever used was almost 400MB in a month. provided I did my math correctly.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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great move.

I'm guessing it will result in a significant improvement of the probability that I can actually USE the network.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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An extra 20 bucks for tethering?
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
An extra 20 bucks for tethering?
Dont sound so surprised. We all knew this was going to be the case.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Indeed.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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20 bucks for tethering is totally reasonable and in line with what other companies charge / have charged.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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Potential security vulnerability on the iphone, even when locked by the user:

"If you feel like going through the process of typing in your PIN every time you unlock your iPhone is worth it thanks to the unconquerable security it implies, you might want to read this report from Bernd Marienfeldt about the chosen one's security model. Yes, a PIN will keep casual users from picking up your phone and making a call with it, or firing off an e-mail to your co-workers saying that you're quitting and becoming an exotic dancer, but it won't keep someone from accessing all your data. Bernd and fellow security guru Jim Herbeck have discovered that plugging even a fully up-to-date, non-jailbroken iPhone 3GS into a computer running Ubuntu Lucid Lynx allows nearly full read access to the phone's storage -- even when it's locked. The belief is that they're just a buffer overflow away from full write access as well, which would surely open the door to making calls. Bernd believes the iPhone's lack of data encryption for content is a real problem, and also cites the inability to digitally sign e-mails as reasons why the iPhone is still not ready for prime time in the enterprise."

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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
20 bucks for tethering is totally reasonable and in line with what other companies charge / have charged.
maybe...cept youre 20 on top of 25 for capped data...for 45 a month.

And tethering a phone to a computer...im betting you can hit your cap pretty fast depending what your doing. That kinda blows.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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I wonder if you still get grandfathered in if you sign a new contract. The article wasn't exactly clear on that key point.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
I wonder if you still get grandfathered in if you sign a new contract. The article wasn't exactly clear on that key point.
If you already have it and buy the new phone...yes you get to keep it
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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When they tried something like this before a few years ago, they claimed otherwise. Which is why I'll take a wait and see approach.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
When they tried something like this before a few years ago, they claimed otherwise. Which is why I'll take a wait and see approach.
Go to macrumors...says it right there.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Dont sound so surprised. We all knew this was going to be the case.
Tethering would have been nice option to use for owners of iphone and ipad (non 3g).

....but now the customer is being nickel and dimed to death.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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Ok I'm going to have jump on this bandwagon. I was going to pick up my wife a 3GS from Best Buy for $97 (I hope I can find one) but with these new rules, I have until Monday so that I can be grandfathered in. I can see my wife abusing Pandora, FB, Twitter, apps, and You Tube. Can you guys just answer me a few quick questions.

I have a router. When she comes home does the phone auto-switch to Wifi from 3G so that the faster connection is received or do you have to manually do it?

How does the 1yr warranty work in this case? I have phone insurance and 1yr warranty for when I get a phone through ATT. How does the iPhone differ?

Also how much data do you guys really average? I think my highest month was 400MB but I personally would abuse it since 3G on my Impression is meh. You can see your data history on ATT's site. Thanks for the help
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We'll see if they keep their word this time. It would be nice.

Doom - it always switches to the fastest data source. Warranty goes through the Apple Store, at least for those of us without insurance.
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For me since I have the option, I'll keep the 30/month unlimited since it's only 5 bux more.

For someone like my mom, probably can drop her down to the 15/month plan.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
maybe...cept youre 20 on top of 25 for capped data...for 45 a month.

And tethering a phone to a computer...im betting you can hit your cap pretty fast depending what your doing. That kinda blows.
yeah, that is typical. Blackberry was at $15 a month last time I checked, just for tethering. Add the Apple bloat factor and the $20 seems not too bad.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Ok I'm going to have jump on this bandwagon. I was going to pick up my wife a 3GS from Best Buy for $97 (I hope I can find one) but with these new rules, I have until Monday so that I can be grandfathered in. I can see my wife abusing Pandora, FB, Twitter, apps, and You Tube. Can you guys just answer me a few quick questions.

I have a router. When she comes home does the phone auto-switch to Wifi from 3G so that the faster connection is received or do you have to manually do it?

How does the 1yr warranty work in this case? I have phone insurance and 1yr warranty for when I get a phone through ATT. How does the iPhone differ?

Also how much data do you guys really average? I think my highest month was 400MB but I personally would abuse it since 3G on my Impression is meh. You can see your data history on ATT's site. Thanks for the help
Yes, it auto connects to wifi when in range. And wifi is left on.
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I guess my wife would have to get one of those two plans when I give her mine.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Tethering would have been nice option to use for owners of iphone and ipad (non 3g).

....but now the customer is being nickel and dimed to death.
Again...dont sound so surprised.

Why would AT&T want you to be able to tether unlimited data to your ipad...then they would sell 3G model and AT&T wouldnt make money off those plans.

I dont like the nickel and dime aspect either...but I doubt Ill pay for tethering.

I dont think it would be any different on any other carrier.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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I'm sure it will be the most magical and revolutionary device ever invented.
I sure freaking hope so.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Ok I'm going to have jump on this bandwagon. I was going to pick up my wife a 3GS from Best Buy for $97 (I hope I can find one) but with these new rules, I have until Monday so that I can be grandfathered in. I can see my wife abusing Pandora, FB, Twitter, apps, and You Tube. Can you guys just answer me a few quick questions.

I have a router. When she comes home does the phone auto-switch to Wifi from 3G so that the faster connection is received or do you have to manually do it?

How does the 1yr warranty work in this case? I have phone insurance and 1yr warranty for when I get a phone through ATT. How does the iPhone differ?

Also how much data do you guys really average? I think my highest month was 400MB but I personally would abuse it since 3G on my Impression is meh. You can see your data history on ATT's site. Thanks for the help
Yes, it auto switches when you are home.

I use facebook and surf the net like crazy when I'm out. the highest I hit in the last year...and this was while I was traveling so I was on my phone for data way more than usual...was 400MB in a month....thats nothing.
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Is there an app for TV show watching like hulu or something where you can stream video? I can see it getting really high with video.
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I stream alot of porn, my data usage isn't that high....
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You have to remember it's streaming at 320x240 resolution, that's pretty small.
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You have to remember it's streaming at 320x240 resolution, that's pretty small.
What's small?
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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I wonder how ipad owners feel about the change.

Seems like they could have a higher chance of getting closer to 2GB
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^Yeah bigger screen more likely to d/l vids.

So Applecare I need to buy within a year. ATT $4/mo no good?

Any luck pricematching at Best Buy?
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^Yeah bigger screen more likely to d/l vids.

So Applecare I need to buy within a year. ATT $4/mo no good?

Any luck pricematching at Best Buy?
At&t is going to chrage 14/mos for insurance on the iphone which is a crock of shit.

Yes, you have a year to buy an additional year of apple care...I actually just bought my additional year yesterday for my 3GS. Worth it since I'm giving the phone to my wife when I upgrade.

I also just had the apple store replace my phone today I was getting stress cracks at the bottom...and Ive my phone in a candyshell case since the day I bought it, body looked flawless...so I get to give my wife a "new" phone.
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Also...I wonder how much data video conferencing will use...no one brought that up yet...
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