Apple: iPhone News and Discussion Thread
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Well, back in October when I was convinced the iPhone would never come to Verizon, I jumped on the Android bandwagon. I started out with a Motorola Droid 2 which turned out to be the biggest piece of garbage I've ever owned and the warranty replacement was even worse, if that's possible. Thankfully, I was able to swap phones under Verizon's 30-day satisfaction guarantee and got a Samsung Fascinate at the end of November. For the longest time, I've been happy with it but over the past few weeks, I've noticed it has picked up many of the little bugs that plagued my Motorolas and the glitches are happening far more frequently It will lock up and crash, the Internet will stop working at random and it will often fail to automatically connect to the Bluetooth in my car.
Having had one of the original iPhones, I loved it but loathed every penny I gave to AT&T and their crappy customer service is what made me vow to wait it out. Even though Verizon is sending me a replacement Fascinate, I think I'm pretty much burnt out on the Android system. While at the Verizon store today, I was dinking with the iPhone and realized just how much I enjoyed having it. I'll give the new Fascinate a few weeks and then I think I'm going to jump back over to the iPhone.
And before somebody says it...I'm not going to bother waiting for the iPhone 5 as I've heard it is going to be nothing more than a mild refresh.
Having had one of the original iPhones, I loved it but loathed every penny I gave to AT&T and their crappy customer service is what made me vow to wait it out. Even though Verizon is sending me a replacement Fascinate, I think I'm pretty much burnt out on the Android system. While at the Verizon store today, I was dinking with the iPhone and realized just how much I enjoyed having it. I'll give the new Fascinate a few weeks and then I think I'm going to jump back over to the iPhone.
And before somebody says it...I'm not going to bother waiting for the iPhone 5 as I've heard it is going to be nothing more than a mild refresh.
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I've been avoiding updating the firmware on my iPhone recently just because it is jailbroken and didn't/haven't done the research on how that affects what you've done since jailbraking.
Currently, my phone is still on 4.1 and was jailbroken with limera1n. Is there anything special I need to do to save the purchases I've made through Cydia to get them back on after updating?
Is my understanding correct that I'll have to jailbreak again once with a different "ra1n" once I update the firmware?
Currently, my phone is still on 4.1 and was jailbroken with limera1n. Is there anything special I need to do to save the purchases I've made through Cydia to get them back on after updating?
Is my understanding correct that I'll have to jailbreak again once with a different "ra1n" once I update the firmware?
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Wife's phone is dying... She's eligible for an upgrade. While it's certain the iPhone 5 is coming in 3 months, should I just bite the bullet and get her a iPhone 4? I don't think we'll get much further on her current device.
Can't imagine there's going to be anything she'll miss with the 5. Me on the other hand... I'm going to wait.
Can't imagine there's going to be anything she'll miss with the 5. Me on the other hand... I'm going to wait.
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The 5 should be an incremental improvement over the 4, i.e. faster CPU that you'll only notice in 3D games, some near-field communications crap that you won't get to use for a long time, and possibly a slightly larger screen (but the iPhone 4 screen is already the best you can get). If I needed a phone I would still get one now, at least you're not getting it the month before the new one comes out.
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Apple today announced that it will hold its annual Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) from June 6th-10th at the Moscone West convention center in San Francisco
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iOS 5 to Offer Significant Voice Integration? Fall iPhone 5 Launch Opens Door to LTE?
Tuesday March 29, 2011 09:54 AM EST; Category: iPhone
Written by Eric Slivka
TechCrunch has posted another lengthy report detailing what it is hearing about Apple's plans for the fifth-generation iPhone and iOS 5, now both rumored for release closer to a "fall" timeframe than the traditional June/July timeframe seen in past years.
Perhaps the most notable information comes at the end of the article, revealing that sources have said that Apple's April 2010 acquisition of personal assistant software company Siri is set to bear fruit in the form of "deeply integrated" artificial intelligence and voice control for iOS 5, a change that could potentially transform the way iOS devices are used.
A year ago, Apple bought Siri, a virtual personal assistant startup that had released a very cool iPhone app. The Siri team and technology are now said to be a big part of iOS 5.
The use of Siri's artificial intelligence and assistance technology is said to be deeply integrated into the OS for all the different services offered. And the team is now putting the finishing touches on the elements that will be demoed at WWDC, we hear. This tech may also be opened to developers for use in third-party apps - though that information isn't quite as concrete.
The report also notes that a fall release for new iPhone hardware provides Apple with additional time to incorporate LTE 4G capabilities, speculating that a desire to add LTE may even be the reason for the shift in release schedule compared to past years.
TechCrunch contributor Steve Cheney (who nailed the timing of the Verizon iPhone last year), believes that a fall iPhone 5 launch makes LTE much more likely. He currently puts the odds at zero to ten percent for LTE if the iPhone 5 launched this summer (again, not happening), 50 percent if it comes in the fall, and 100 percent if it comes in January.
A fall timeframe would give Apple a more vetted and lower power Qualcomm chip for LTE, Cheney says. When the Verizon iPhone was unveiled in January, Apple COO Tim Cook addressed the LTE issue directly. "The first generation LTE chipsets force some design compromises. Some of which we would not make," he said. If Cheney is right, that may not be such an issue later this year.
The report notes that Apple waited to adopt 3G technology until is had significantly matured, opting to release the original iPhone as an EDGE-only device despite relatively widespread 3G coverage available at the time. But at that time the iPhone was a completely new concept for smartphones setting the stage to remake the industry regardless of whether it was an EDGE or 3G device. In the much larger and much more competitive smartphone market today, Android devices are already moving to LTE and Apple may not wish to wait until mid-2012 to introduce its own LTE iPhone.
Tuesday March 29, 2011 09:54 AM EST; Category: iPhone
Written by Eric Slivka
TechCrunch has posted another lengthy report detailing what it is hearing about Apple's plans for the fifth-generation iPhone and iOS 5, now both rumored for release closer to a "fall" timeframe than the traditional June/July timeframe seen in past years.
Perhaps the most notable information comes at the end of the article, revealing that sources have said that Apple's April 2010 acquisition of personal assistant software company Siri is set to bear fruit in the form of "deeply integrated" artificial intelligence and voice control for iOS 5, a change that could potentially transform the way iOS devices are used.
A year ago, Apple bought Siri, a virtual personal assistant startup that had released a very cool iPhone app. The Siri team and technology are now said to be a big part of iOS 5.
The use of Siri's artificial intelligence and assistance technology is said to be deeply integrated into the OS for all the different services offered. And the team is now putting the finishing touches on the elements that will be demoed at WWDC, we hear. This tech may also be opened to developers for use in third-party apps - though that information isn't quite as concrete.
The report also notes that a fall release for new iPhone hardware provides Apple with additional time to incorporate LTE 4G capabilities, speculating that a desire to add LTE may even be the reason for the shift in release schedule compared to past years.
TechCrunch contributor Steve Cheney (who nailed the timing of the Verizon iPhone last year), believes that a fall iPhone 5 launch makes LTE much more likely. He currently puts the odds at zero to ten percent for LTE if the iPhone 5 launched this summer (again, not happening), 50 percent if it comes in the fall, and 100 percent if it comes in January.
A fall timeframe would give Apple a more vetted and lower power Qualcomm chip for LTE, Cheney says. When the Verizon iPhone was unveiled in January, Apple COO Tim Cook addressed the LTE issue directly. "The first generation LTE chipsets force some design compromises. Some of which we would not make," he said. If Cheney is right, that may not be such an issue later this year.
The report notes that Apple waited to adopt 3G technology until is had significantly matured, opting to release the original iPhone as an EDGE-only device despite relatively widespread 3G coverage available at the time. But at that time the iPhone was a completely new concept for smartphones setting the stage to remake the industry regardless of whether it was an EDGE or 3G device. In the much larger and much more competitive smartphone market today, Android devices are already moving to LTE and Apple may not wish to wait until mid-2012 to introduce its own LTE iPhone.
I wouldn't so much look at the download speeds as I would the size of the download. The apple servers get hit millions upon millions of times, maybe you hit their server when files were being requested the most?
Oh well, you got the update, be happy.
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I don't think updates are cumalative in that sense. Each update is a complete reinstall of the OS, it's wiped out and reinstalled and the settings from the previous version applied to the new. This is also how iTunes updates are. It always uninstalls and reinstalls the program, that's why every update no matter how minor the version change is 60mb+ and why every iOS update is about 500mb+. You just weren't paying attention during 4.3 download or it was downloading already and you didn't know it.
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Sony CEO accidentally reveals secret details about iPhone 5
Sir Howard Stringer, CEO of Sony, accidentally told everyone in the world that his company will be supplying image sensors for Apple's iPhone 5.
In an interview late Friday with the Wall Street Journal's Walt Mossberg, the Sony chief was talking about earthquake damage to 15 of the Sony's factories in Japan, and inadvertently mentioned that a camera sensor made in one of those plants is on its way to Apple, and that sensor would be delayed because of the quake and tsunami.
Stringer didn't specifically say that Sony is building an 8-megapixel image sensor that will go into the iPhone 5, but since Sony is currently not manufacturing any image sensors for Apple, this confirmed that Sony plans to supply components of the iPhone 5.
This points to the distinct possibility that in the iPhone 5, Apple will no longer be using those OmniVision 5-megapixel image sensors currently inside the iPhone 4.
This is supported by an analyst's report from February of this year saying that OmniVision might lose out on supplying cameras for the iPhone 5 because OmniVision's 8-megapixel sensor won't be ready for the iPhone 5's rumored mid-summer launch.
Because Stringer was talking about the irony of supplying the company's best camera to Apple, we can only surmise that he was talking about an 8-megapixel sensor. Here's what The Wall Street Journal wrote about Stringer's quote when reporting on its own event this morning:
Early on, he raised the irony of Sony supplying camera components for Apple devices. It "always puzzles me," he said. "Why would I make Apple the best camera?" It is unclear what devices he was talking about as Sony isn't known to supply key camera components, known as image sensors, to Apple; A Sony spokeswoman declined to comment and an Apple spokesperson couldn't be reached for comment.
Stringer's inadvertent slip also lends credence to the rumors of a delayed release of the iPhone 5.
In an interview late Friday with the Wall Street Journal's Walt Mossberg, the Sony chief was talking about earthquake damage to 15 of the Sony's factories in Japan, and inadvertently mentioned that a camera sensor made in one of those plants is on its way to Apple, and that sensor would be delayed because of the quake and tsunami.
Stringer didn't specifically say that Sony is building an 8-megapixel image sensor that will go into the iPhone 5, but since Sony is currently not manufacturing any image sensors for Apple, this confirmed that Sony plans to supply components of the iPhone 5.
This points to the distinct possibility that in the iPhone 5, Apple will no longer be using those OmniVision 5-megapixel image sensors currently inside the iPhone 4.
This is supported by an analyst's report from February of this year saying that OmniVision might lose out on supplying cameras for the iPhone 5 because OmniVision's 8-megapixel sensor won't be ready for the iPhone 5's rumored mid-summer launch.
Because Stringer was talking about the irony of supplying the company's best camera to Apple, we can only surmise that he was talking about an 8-megapixel sensor. Here's what The Wall Street Journal wrote about Stringer's quote when reporting on its own event this morning:
Early on, he raised the irony of Sony supplying camera components for Apple devices. It "always puzzles me," he said. "Why would I make Apple the best camera?" It is unclear what devices he was talking about as Sony isn't known to supply key camera components, known as image sensors, to Apple; A Sony spokeswoman declined to comment and an Apple spokesperson couldn't be reached for comment.
Stringer's inadvertent slip also lends credence to the rumors of a delayed release of the iPhone 5.
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I know there's always room for improvement, but the iPhone4 camera is probably the best camera phone and of of the better p&s's on the market. I can't see phone cameras being pushed that much more than where they are currently, unless you add a processor just for them. The 8mp in the Thunderbolt seems pretty good though.
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Considering the camera your bragging about is an actual camera, I could put images up from both and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. That should say something about how good the iPhone 4 camera is considering it has a smaller sensor, lens and optical focus length. If you try and use the digital zoom with the iPhone (or any digital camera), then you no nothing about photography and should be stuck with a camera you don't know it's limits.
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Considering the camera your bragging about is an actual camera, I could put images up from both and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. That should say something about how good the iPhone 4 camera is considering it has a smaller sensor, lens and optical focus length. If you try and use the digital zoom with the iPhone (or any digital camera), then you no nothing about photography and should be stuck with a camera you don't know it's limits.
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I wasn't assuming, that last paragraph was not to "you" but in general "you". Wasn't meaning to be negative thought, but in general. A lot of people that I've talked to about cameras, think they have a bad camera, first thing I have them check is digital zoom and turn it off.
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No, I know that the zoom sucks. Using it once was enough.
It's a good camera. Good, not great. What works in it's advantage is the convenience. My Sony gives the sharper picture, but it's more work to grab the files an do what I want.
It's a good camera. Good, not great. What works in it's advantage is the convenience. My Sony gives the sharper picture, but it's more work to grab the files an do what I want.
Now I remember why I don't upgrade often.