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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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More proof that Verizon is getting iPhones in Janary

http://www.pcworld.com/article/20312...html?tk=hp_new
...sounds encouraging... is verizon working on getting 4G ?

...and with Sprint growing its Android phones, I wonder if they want Apple in the mix too...
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:52 AM
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So iOS 4.0.2 is out and it fixes the PDF vulnerability that enabled the simple jailbreakme.com jailbreak. But what it you're not on iOS 4 and you have an iPhone where is the security fix for those people? People who still use the original iPhone or iPod touch or those with a 3G that chose not to upgrade to iOS 4 due to all the reported performance issues other users are experiencing after upgrading. Where's their fix? Apparently Apple doesn't care about them and there's no fix coming for them.....unless they jailbreak! If you're on 4.0.1 or lower and you want to get the PDF fix you can go to jailbreakme.com and do the jailbreak. Then after that launch cydia and do a search for PDF and install the "PDF patch" from saurik the guy who discovered the PDF flaw to begin with and you'll be good to go! This includes iPhone 4 users like myself, just install this patch there's no need to upgrade to 4.0.2 and lose your JB, you can have your cake and eat it too!



So in some cases you're more secure IF you jailbreak your phone than if you don't, thanks Apple!
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 04:13 AM
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^ I don't mean to come off as a smart-ass; it's 5:10am and I'm alittle punchy without sleep.

But what in the fawk does that screen you displayed can make my phone calls better or make the music better or make the camera better?

I guess it has to do with customizing the handset.

I'll take a Chiquita banana sticker and piss on it to have something different.

Again, punchy, an Android users that likes uniqueness.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 06:33 AM
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better music?, you must be cranky and high....
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 07:15 AM
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Downloaded the patch...
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Professor
^ I don't mean to come off as a smart-ass; it's 5:10am and I'm alittle punchy without sleep.

But what in the fawk does that screen you displayed can make my phone calls better or make the music better or make the camera better?

I guess it has to do with customizing the handset.

I'll take a Chiquita banana sticker and piss on it to have something different.

Again, punchy, an Android users that likes uniqueness.
The screen above is a patch for jailbreaked phones to close the security hole that every hacker knows about now. However, if you don't have iOS 4.0 and are still at 3.1.3 you couldn't do it through Apple since 3G phones' performance suffer when upgraded to 4.0.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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And I'm addicted to WSOP. They had it free the other day so I scooped it. I wish you can do online games against friends like Words or Chess with Friends but at least they offer BT.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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Got my Incase clear case in the mail today. I like it!
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 11:29 PM
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hmm... tried to delete all the content on my iphone 3GS to get it ready to sell and for some reason its just stuck at the apple logo and a frozen progress spinning thing.


luckily i backed up the blobs so ill just restore to 4.0 and jailbreak it again.
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 12:27 AM
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Got my Incase clear case in the mail today. I like it!
Pics, por favor? Mine's supposed to show up by tuesday...
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 12:35 AM
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So the 3G S is still doing it everytime I restart. But if I just wait eventually it goes to the unlock screen
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 01:11 AM
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Heh, I happened to brick my 3GS last night. I was messing around on cyberduck (openssh) and I accidentally dragged a folder into another and didn't notice where I got it from and where it went... so I said whatever. Luckily I had synced before I started my tinkering. Phone worked fine until I tried turning it on this morning, it was stuck in recovery mode. I was able to restore and sync from my backup and get most of everything back to normal between getting ready for work too easy.
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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My clear Incase came in today, I like it!

It comes with a stand too, which I'll lose promptly...

Last edited by #1 STUNNA; Aug 16, 2010 at 03:16 PM.
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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Oh sweet! I was poking around SBSettings and saw how to turn on the "Numeric GSM" readout instead of looking at those bullshit bars I can get the actual db readout!

If you have SBSettings and you want to have numbers instead of bars open sbsettings click on "more">"system options">then turn on Numeric GSM. I also turned on Numeric Wifi for my iPad!

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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 11:39 PM
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Great tip. I've had the numerical readings since I first noticed the option a very long time ago. I'd delete the battery symbol and keep the percentage if I could.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Oh sweet! I was poking around SBSettings and saw how to turn on the "Numeric GSM" readout instead of looking at those bullshit bars I can get the actual db readout!

If you have SBSettings and you want to have numbers instead of bars open sbsettings click on "more">"system options">then turn on Numeric GSM. I also turned on Numeric Wifi for my iPad!
Or you could have touched that part of the screen to toggle it like I have since the day I got it.

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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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Jesus check your email.

BTW, another way to view Netflix is through that program PlayOn. Initially it was to watch Netflix through your PS3/360/Wii but now they all have the ability to so they expanded to other channels like Hulu, Amazon VOD, mlb.tv etc. Last week they came out with the ability to use through your iPhone via Safari since their app is taking forever to approve. Through Wifi (which is pointless) at first it was slow as shit but after a reboot of my PC I was watching South Park via the Comedy Central channel. The 3G didn't work but that was before my reboot. I tried it just now from work but it won't find my PC so I'll call my wife later to open the program.

This program isn't free. Normally it's $40 for the first year and $20/yr after. However there are ways reinstalling to get around that should you go that route. Luckily you get a 14 day trial to see how good your connection. Supposedly a G router isn't fast enough but then again I was watching South Park with very few buffers. However, my laptop's CPU usage was spiking and at times sustaining 100% so I'm on the fence.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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i'm a little late to the game, but last night, i finally got around to updating my 3g software to os4.

i backed up my phone and all, and when i clicked on update, it was taking forever. i'm talking over an hour. shouldn't take that long since it hasn't been that long since i backed up my phone.

so i stopped it and tried again. it still kept hanging. a friend told me i needed to update by clicking restore. so i did that. but about 60-70% through, it kept hanging again.

now, i can't turn my phone on. after i press the home and sleep/wake buttons, i get a screen telling me to plug it into itunes.

anyways, am i SOL? should i go to the apple store during lunch? should i just upgrade to iphone4? i got my 3g around this time 2 years ago. so i should be eligible for a free upgrade by now. (when i checked via text a few months ago, it told me i can upgrade for $18 or something like that.)

please help. thanks.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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Putting iOS4 on your 3G was going to make your phone painfully slow anyways. Might as well upgrade to a 4. I think they'd just restore your phone with I think it's called DFU or something. I doubt you bricked your phone.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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how misleading.

just realized if i have to upgrade, i'd have to pay the discounted price ~$200 or so plus the $18?

thanks, doom.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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They should waive the $18 activation fee if you've had your 3G that long.

You could also put your 3G back onto version 3.1.3. That's what I did with my wife's 3G when the os4 update screwed it up.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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You could also put your 3G back onto version 3.1.3. That's what I did with my wife's 3G when the os4 update screwed it up.
If iTunes doesn't require Apple's signature on the firmware then this would be the best route. There were talks about the 3G requiring signature verification like the 3GS...

Another option would be to attempt to create a custom ipsw (firmware) that has multitasking stripped from it and try restoring to it through iTunes.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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From what I read it's only at a software level. Much easier to bypass than the 3G S and 4.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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And the 3G doesn't have multi tasking.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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How can he do all ^ if he can't restore?
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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well, i went to the apple store during lunch, and the genius bartenders restored my phone.

apparently, what caused the hangups was moisture that got in the charger area. (a few months ago, i did drop my phone in a bowl of hot and sour soup. )

he did some cleaning in the backroom, brought my phone back out, and restored it. it has the new OS...a bit nervous since a lot of people are saying it's a problem with the 3g phone. we'll see when i get home and sync it to get all my apps, contacts, etc.
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
well, i went to the apple store during lunch, and the genius bartenders restored my phone.

apparently, what caused the hangups was moisture that got in the charger area. (a few months ago, i did drop my phone in a bowl of hot and sour soup. )

he did some cleaning in the backroom, brought my phone back out, and restored it. it has the new OS...a bit nervous since a lot of people are saying it's a problem with the 3g phone. we'll see when i get home and sync it to get all my apps, contacts, etc.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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so should i downgrade?
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
so should i downgrade?
Have you ever been jailbroken?
-If so, did you backup your hashes with Cydias signature server?
-If not,AFAIK you can't anymore.

I would try at the very least to downgrade to a stripped version of iOS4 using pwnagetool.

You are the perfect example of why the dev team pushes their jailbreak tools... To allow downgrading.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 04:37 AM
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Damn, even Justin Long teh Mac guy Jailbroke his phone!



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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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You definitely can't downgrade without jailbreaking. What 4.0 do you have? Probably 4.0.2 so at this moment you can't jb neither.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by v6cord2k5
Have you ever been jailbroken?
-If so, did you backup your hashes with Cydias signature server?
-If not,AFAIK you can't anymore.

I would try at the very least to downgrade to a stripped version of iOS4 using pwnagetool.

You are the perfect example of why the dev team pushes their jailbreak tools... To allow downgrading.
never jailbroke my phone.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by doom878
you definitely can't downgrade without jailbreaking. What 4.0 do you have? Probably 4.0.2 so at this moment you can't jb neither.
4.0.2
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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so my options are:
1. jailbreak and downgrade?
2. deal with the os (i've noticed that the phone is slower...)
3. upgrade to iphone 4.

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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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You definitely can't downgrade without jailbreaking. What 4.0 do you have? Probably 4.0.2 so at this moment you can't jb neither.
I downgraded my wife's 3G from 4.0 to 3.1.3 and it had never been jailbroken.

I just downloaded the 3.1.3 firmware (IPSW) and restored directly to that from iTunes.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:01 AM
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holy battery drain, batman!
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
You definitely can't downgrade without jailbreaking. What 4.0 do you have? Probably 4.0.2 so at this moment you can't jb neither.
Not so quick, he still has hope...

Originally Posted by paz840
I downgraded my wife's 3G from 4.0 to 3.1.3 and it had never been jailbroken.

I just downloaded the 3.1.3 firmware (IPSW) and restored directly to that from iTunes.
Bingo. You must have done this when Apple wasn't verifying firmwares on iTunes for older devices. If of the baseband on 4.0.2 is compatible with 3.1.3, it should work.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
so my options are:
1. jailbreak and downgrade?
2. deal with the os (i've noticed that the phone is slower...)
3. upgrade to iphone 4.

Technically, jailbreaking should have came before upgrading... but you might get lucky if Apple doesn't verify your firmware on the downgrade.

Download 3.1.3 and try restoring to it. If you miss iOS4, download pwnagetool 4.01 and an ipsw for 4.0.0 and strip it of multitasking on pwnagetool... Restore to that custom ipsw.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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