NBA: 2010 Season News and Discussion Thread **Dallas Wins Title 4-2 (page 84)**
#2562
I think the Mavs are relying too heavily on these 3's & trying to spread the Lakers. Looks like the Lakers are trying the same strategy, but sending Odom to the basket.
#2565
Wow, what a stupid decision. I know things are bad, but to do what Artest did & get thrown out?
I'm extremely amazed by the stupidity considering that he was one Laker getting into the paint. Artest fouls again.
I'm extremely amazed by the stupidity considering that he was one Laker getting into the paint. Artest fouls again.
#2569
Los Angeles Lakers just became a team of butt hurt bitches. I give Kobe props for keeping his cool.
#2571
Q('.')=O
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Ok Odom's was bad. But Bynum that was FUCKING DISGRACEFUL YOU PIECE OF SHIT.
That better be a big fucking fine for Bynum.
Fuck the lakers, you've won your fair share of titles, and to go out like this by injuring all the Mavs players, you are a fucking disgrace!
That better be a big fucking fine for Bynum.
Fuck the lakers, you've won your fair share of titles, and to go out like this by injuring all the Mavs players, you are a fucking disgrace!
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#2575
#2578
Suspensions for next season. The new coach is gonna love that.
#2580
#2581
Burning Brakes
Calm down. Your 27. You've seen much worse in the 90's and Late 80's. If anything, the game has been sissified to WNBA levels during the David Stern reign.
#2582
I'm Down Right Fierce!
There's a difference between tough physical basketball, and taking cheap shots - if you're referring to days of Barkley and the like, even he would admit to Bynum's hit on Barrea being a cheap shot.
#2584
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Thread Starter
So much for Beef thinking they could come back.
#2586
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
So, we are all in agreement: LeHeat will now 10-peat with the demise of the Lakers.
#2587
Burning Brakes
Championship teams have taken cheap shots for years. Some of you guys just haven't been watching basketball long enough. Try watching some old playoff highlights on youtube if you wanna see real men play.
#2588
I'm Down Right Fierce!
Doesn't change the fact that its a bitch move. Basketball does have a level of physicality, but its not inherently a physical sport (like football or hockey). I played competitive basketball up through college and if I got fouled like Barrea, my entire team would have to hold me back from swinging at Bynum.
#2590
Burning Brakes
Doesn't change the fact that its a bitch move. Basketball does have a level of physicality, but its not inherently a physical sport (like football or hockey). I played competitive basketball up through college and if I got fouled like Barrea, my entire team would have to hold me back from swinging at Bynum.
#2591
I have been taken out like that, unfortunately, a couple of times....and it wasn't always hardwood 'cushioning' my fall. Be it IMs, at the park, being the speedy little point guard makes you a prime target for this sort of play.
I think the its a bigger statement to pop back up quickly and keep playing, as opposed to reacting to the dirty play.
With that said however, it is a bitch move by today's standards. That's what the game has turned into, and you have to play it that way. So stupid move by Bynum...
#2592
#2594
I drive a Subata.
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I'm so glad im not into basketball lol
Football > *
Football > *
#2595
L.A. > the rest
LAKERS....wow...
Even the 16x National Basketball Association CHAMPION LOS ANGELES LAKERS can't win 'em all.
yes it sucks and yes it hurts, but there's always next year.
who i don't want to win:
boston...eff boston, celtics suck! :tonguefaw
miami...wade is cool, but eff lebron!
dallas...for obvious reasons,... mark cuban is so annoying, and to quote FULL METAL JACKET, "only steers and queers come from texas!" :gheyfight:
okc...because of perkins (former celtic), eff that!
memphis and atlanta don't have a shot so that leaves chicago...
chicago is like w/e to me so it wouldn't bother me one bit if they took it all. they're anonymous to me...almost like it never happened.
Even the 16x National Basketball Association CHAMPION LOS ANGELES LAKERS can't win 'em all.
yes it sucks and yes it hurts, but there's always next year.
who i don't want to win:
boston...eff boston, celtics suck! :tonguefaw
miami...wade is cool, but eff lebron!
dallas...for obvious reasons,... mark cuban is so annoying, and to quote FULL METAL JACKET, "only steers and queers come from texas!" :gheyfight:
okc...because of perkins (former celtic), eff that!
memphis and atlanta don't have a shot so that leaves chicago...
chicago is like w/e to me so it wouldn't bother me one bit if they took it all. they're anonymous to me...almost like it never happened.
#2599
Team Owner
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basket...4732394.column
My friend told me about this. Holy bitchness if true.
latimes.com
BILL PLASCHKE
Divided Lakers simply get lost on way to three-peat
With embarrassing sweep out of the playoffs by Dallas, they have seen the enemy, and it is them. And, going forward, they have no coach, no bench and little money to get better quick.
Bill Plaschke
8:46 PM PDT, May 8, 2011
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From Dallas
For six months, the Lakers' third time was a charm.
On Sunday, it resolutely and reprehensibly crumbled into a curse.
The expectations were too heavy. The distractions were too large. The bodies were too weary. The heart was too faint.
Photos: Mavericks sweep Lakers
And, believe it or not, the Dallas Mavericks were too good, the NBA's softest playoff team pounding the Lakers into sweeping submission with a 122-86 victory to finish off a four-game sweep of the second-round playoff series.
"I don't know where we lost it … that drive, that bond we had in the past, that cohesive drive in order to overcome adversity," said Lamar Odom.
They weren't just beaten, they were embarrassed by two punk moves that led to ejections, humiliated by a crowd that sang and jeered them off the court, and shamed into an uncertain future.
"It's going to be a l-o-o-o-ng summer," said Ron Artest.
It's been a long three years, with the two-time defending champions finally collapsing under the weight of issues both personal and professional, a lack of locker-room trust tearing apart their fabric on the court.
"This is the worst I've ever seen the Lakers play in a game that they need," said Magic Johnson, team vice president, during a televised halftime show.
In the horrific final two hours Sunday, they didn't pass, they didn't shoot, and they didn't guard anybody, raising a white flag that allowed the Mavericks to tie an NBA playoff record with 20 mostly wide-open three pointers.
The Mavericks put a broom to so much more than one team and one season here, clearing the NBA postseason not only of its marquee franchise, but perhaps removing all traces of them for the foreseeable future. They have no coach. They have no bench. They have little money to get better quick.
"The Lakers fans have had their hearts broke," said Artest. "And all those people who aren't Lakers fans are now laughing at the Lakers fans."
Swept away was Phil Jackson's 20-year coaching career, his 1,973rd and final game possibly his worst, his resume of 11 championships now containing the smudge of a man who finally lost control of his club.
In his trademark emotionless style afterward, a retiring Jackson admitted that the burden of attempting to win a third title was too much.
"A lot of strain on a basketball club from all angles — personalities, spiritually, emotionally," he said. "It was a challenge bigger than we could beat."
Swept away was the idea that Kobe Bryant has enough left in his aching legs to personally spring a team to a title. Bryant failed in two final possessions that could have won the series opener, then averaged only 19 points in the final three games, an aging star who clearly needs more help.
"I'm not very happy about it … to say the least," he said during a terse news conference in which he said the least.
Swept away too was the idea that Derek Fisher's veteran leadership can still overcome his physical limitations. In this season's biggest test of the Lakers' will Sunday, Fisher scored one basket while really not leading anybody anywhere.
Also swept away was the thought that Artest is a changed and focused man. His suspension for a dumb foul in Game 2 helped cost the team a victory in Game 3, and he spent most of Sunday lost in defensive space while Mavericks wildly flew around him.
"God can win 10 championships in a row, but I'm not God," he said.
Perhaps more than anything, the notion that Pau Gasol can be this team's next great leader was swept away. His sudden and odd postseason disappearance was the most obvious reason for the Lakers' troubles, his fall completed Sunday when he scored 10 points while being pushed around by everyone but his coach, who thankfully refrained from hitting him for a second consecutive game.
"I have to learn from this," Gasol said. ''I have to learn that when something happens off the court, you have to keep it off the court."
He was referring to the report that he stopped talking to Bryant during the postseason because Bryant's wife, Vanessa, had contributed to the breakup of Gasol and his longtime girlfriend. Lakers fans will remember that Karl Malone once publicly accused Vanessa of interfering with his personal life in a similar fashion.
Whatever was happening, Bryant and Gasol haven't connected on the court in a month, and the Lakers have been lost without the strength of their fusion.
"We just never got a rhythm, ever," said Odom.
Also swept aside was the idea that Odom can win a championship while being Mr. Hollywood. You say that the "Khloe & Lamar" show didn't hurt his postseason? I say he had 10 points and two rebounds Sunday while being ordered off the court after a cheap fourth-quarter shoving knockdown of Dirk Nowitzki.
"I was embarrassed," said Odom. "It was a humbling experience, I'll tell you that."
In the end, nobody should have been more embarrassed than Andrew Bynum, who threw a dangerous right elbow into a flying Jose Barea moments after Odom's cheap shot, knocking the little guard to the ground and resulting in another ejection. Bynum further shamed himself and the franchise by tearing off his jersey before he left the court, and I have just one question.
Are you sure the Lakers were better off not trading him? I have been ridiculed for this stance by folks who are suddenly very quiet about it now. I'm not wavering. I believe that if the Lakers want to win a championship while Bryant is still mobile and Gasol is still young, they need the kind of top point guard or scorer that Bynum can bring in a deal.
In the meantime, Lakers fans must spend the l-o-o-o-ng summer haunted by memories of plays such as the one early in the third quarter Sunday that typified their collapse, Artest's racing down for an open layup that could have possibly changed the momentum.
It was blocked by the rim.
The two-time defending champion Lakers were dethroned by their toughest opponent, that dysfunctional group known as the two-time defending champion Lakers.
BILL PLASCHKE
Divided Lakers simply get lost on way to three-peat
With embarrassing sweep out of the playoffs by Dallas, they have seen the enemy, and it is them. And, going forward, they have no coach, no bench and little money to get better quick.
Bill Plaschke
8:46 PM PDT, May 8, 2011
Advertisement
From Dallas
For six months, the Lakers' third time was a charm.
On Sunday, it resolutely and reprehensibly crumbled into a curse.
The expectations were too heavy. The distractions were too large. The bodies were too weary. The heart was too faint.
Photos: Mavericks sweep Lakers
And, believe it or not, the Dallas Mavericks were too good, the NBA's softest playoff team pounding the Lakers into sweeping submission with a 122-86 victory to finish off a four-game sweep of the second-round playoff series.
"I don't know where we lost it … that drive, that bond we had in the past, that cohesive drive in order to overcome adversity," said Lamar Odom.
They weren't just beaten, they were embarrassed by two punk moves that led to ejections, humiliated by a crowd that sang and jeered them off the court, and shamed into an uncertain future.
"It's going to be a l-o-o-o-ng summer," said Ron Artest.
It's been a long three years, with the two-time defending champions finally collapsing under the weight of issues both personal and professional, a lack of locker-room trust tearing apart their fabric on the court.
"This is the worst I've ever seen the Lakers play in a game that they need," said Magic Johnson, team vice president, during a televised halftime show.
In the horrific final two hours Sunday, they didn't pass, they didn't shoot, and they didn't guard anybody, raising a white flag that allowed the Mavericks to tie an NBA playoff record with 20 mostly wide-open three pointers.
The Mavericks put a broom to so much more than one team and one season here, clearing the NBA postseason not only of its marquee franchise, but perhaps removing all traces of them for the foreseeable future. They have no coach. They have no bench. They have little money to get better quick.
"The Lakers fans have had their hearts broke," said Artest. "And all those people who aren't Lakers fans are now laughing at the Lakers fans."
Swept away was Phil Jackson's 20-year coaching career, his 1,973rd and final game possibly his worst, his resume of 11 championships now containing the smudge of a man who finally lost control of his club.
In his trademark emotionless style afterward, a retiring Jackson admitted that the burden of attempting to win a third title was too much.
"A lot of strain on a basketball club from all angles — personalities, spiritually, emotionally," he said. "It was a challenge bigger than we could beat."
Swept away was the idea that Kobe Bryant has enough left in his aching legs to personally spring a team to a title. Bryant failed in two final possessions that could have won the series opener, then averaged only 19 points in the final three games, an aging star who clearly needs more help.
"I'm not very happy about it … to say the least," he said during a terse news conference in which he said the least.
Swept away too was the idea that Derek Fisher's veteran leadership can still overcome his physical limitations. In this season's biggest test of the Lakers' will Sunday, Fisher scored one basket while really not leading anybody anywhere.
Also swept away was the thought that Artest is a changed and focused man. His suspension for a dumb foul in Game 2 helped cost the team a victory in Game 3, and he spent most of Sunday lost in defensive space while Mavericks wildly flew around him.
"God can win 10 championships in a row, but I'm not God," he said.
Perhaps more than anything, the notion that Pau Gasol can be this team's next great leader was swept away. His sudden and odd postseason disappearance was the most obvious reason for the Lakers' troubles, his fall completed Sunday when he scored 10 points while being pushed around by everyone but his coach, who thankfully refrained from hitting him for a second consecutive game.
"I have to learn from this," Gasol said. ''I have to learn that when something happens off the court, you have to keep it off the court."
He was referring to the report that he stopped talking to Bryant during the postseason because Bryant's wife, Vanessa, had contributed to the breakup of Gasol and his longtime girlfriend. Lakers fans will remember that Karl Malone once publicly accused Vanessa of interfering with his personal life in a similar fashion.
Whatever was happening, Bryant and Gasol haven't connected on the court in a month, and the Lakers have been lost without the strength of their fusion.
"We just never got a rhythm, ever," said Odom.
Also swept aside was the idea that Odom can win a championship while being Mr. Hollywood. You say that the "Khloe & Lamar" show didn't hurt his postseason? I say he had 10 points and two rebounds Sunday while being ordered off the court after a cheap fourth-quarter shoving knockdown of Dirk Nowitzki.
"I was embarrassed," said Odom. "It was a humbling experience, I'll tell you that."
In the end, nobody should have been more embarrassed than Andrew Bynum, who threw a dangerous right elbow into a flying Jose Barea moments after Odom's cheap shot, knocking the little guard to the ground and resulting in another ejection. Bynum further shamed himself and the franchise by tearing off his jersey before he left the court, and I have just one question.
Are you sure the Lakers were better off not trading him? I have been ridiculed for this stance by folks who are suddenly very quiet about it now. I'm not wavering. I believe that if the Lakers want to win a championship while Bryant is still mobile and Gasol is still young, they need the kind of top point guard or scorer that Bynum can bring in a deal.
In the meantime, Lakers fans must spend the l-o-o-o-ng summer haunted by memories of plays such as the one early in the third quarter Sunday that typified their collapse, Artest's racing down for an open layup that could have possibly changed the momentum.
It was blocked by the rim.
The two-time defending champion Lakers were dethroned by their toughest opponent, that dysfunctional group known as the two-time defending champion Lakers.