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Old 02-07-2013, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
The Boston Bruins have traded goaltender Tim Thomas to the New York Islanders in exchange for a conditional draft pick in 2014 or 2015.

Thomas announced last summer that he was taking a year off from hockey.

Thomas is in the final year of his current contract, which carries a $5 million cap hit for the 2012-13 season. The no-movement clause that is a part of the deal expired last July 1.

The 38-year-old went 35-19-1 with a 2.36 goals-against average and a .920 save percentage this past season. In the playoffs, he had a 2.14 GAA and a .923 save percentage. Boston lost in seven games to Washington in the first round.

Thomas won the 2009 and 2011 Vezina Trophy, and has a 196-121-45 record and 2.48 GAA in 378 career games with the Bruins. In 50 postseason games, he holds a 29-21 mark with a 2.07 GAA.

Thomas won the 2011 Conn Smythe Trophy after leading Boston to its first Stanley Cup title since 1972.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=415479
He'll never play a game in NY and we'll never get a draft pick. This is purely a business decision driven entirely by the salary cap for the B's and the cap floor for the Isles. The Isle were having salary floor compliance issues, this is simply an insurance policy and it frees up cap space for the B's.

The owners are right back to gaming the system they locked out the players to get in place.
Old 02-07-2013, 06:19 PM
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Holyf00king ish.

I went out for dinner and came home to 3-1!

& a penalty.
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It really is disgusting, I've been going to hockey games my entire life, and we've had season tickets for 15 years now, and I would never, no matter how much I despise a guy, cheer or celebrate when they get hurt. So fucking low
I agree that is classless and outside my ability to comprehend.
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It is now interference to tap the man with the puck?
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Sorry but I got to admit, if I was at the game and Matt Cooke got hit hard and was injured, I would cheer for the hit. Some guys have karma waiting around the corner for them, they don't get my sympathy.

I felt the same way about Ulf Samuellson getting knocked out by a Tie Domi sucker punch. Players who have a reputation for dirty career ending hits deserved to be cheered while they lie in pain on the ice, you reap what you sow.
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It would be interesting if Thomas does suit up for the Isles...just a thought. The Isles still need help on D...but, they have a nice group of forwards. Young too.
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Nothing like welcoming back that scum, Torres, by punching him a few times in a fight and then routing his team.
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black label: The biggest surprise is the Bruins didn't trade Thomas to the Leaves for 11 conditional first rounders.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:38 PM
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Blackhawks keep rolling.....6-2 over the Yotes. 2 goals for Kane.
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Blackhawks keep rolling.....6-2 over the Yotes. 2 goals for Kane.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Nothing like welcoming back that scum, Torres, by punching him a few times in a fight and then routing his team.
Is Bollig not playing? He should have been the guy to go after Torres, it would have been much more painful.
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Originally Posted by black label
Is Bollig not playing? He should have been the guy to go after Torres, it would have been much more painful.
No, Bollig did not suit up.

But, I agree. Not sure why Mayers took the call. Bollig's the superior fighter. Still, Torres got his face beat up...it was nice to see.
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Sorry but I got to admit, if I was at the game and Matt Cooke got hit hard and was injured, I would cheer for the hit. Some guys have karma waiting around the corner for them, they don't get my sympathy.
Cook's hometown is like right next to mine, and while I will admit that he has made some very questionable plays on the ice, to wish pain on him or any other person is an atrocious thing to do. I met him a couple times growing up (when he was still a Canuck), and from what I remember he was actually a really nice guy. He used to work as a car salesman at a local dealership over the off-season and used to host charity events/volunteer in the community all the time. If that warrants you wishing pain and suffering on him, then I don't really know what to say to you.
Old 02-08-2013, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
No, Bollig did not suit up.

But, I agree. Not sure why Mayers took the call. Bollig's the superior fighter. Still, Torres got his face beat up...it was nice to see.
I don't know about your view of the fight. Mayers got in one good shot, Torres may have gotten a few more. I'd call it a draw and not a great "revenge" bout.

Bollig intrigues me but all I ever get to see are his fights (he's been in 16 so far this year if you count AHL). He seems strong on his skates and well balanced, I'm curious if he can become a tough guy who can earn a regular shift. If so you can trade him to Boston when Thornton retires.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:43 AM
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It was amazing the way he kept announcing while the trainer cleaned him up & the blood flowed.


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Old 02-08-2013, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by black label
I don't know about your view of the fight. Mayers got in one good shot, Torres may have gotten a few more. I'd call it a draw and not a great "revenge" bout.

Bollig intrigues me but all I ever get to see are his fights (he's been in 16 so far this year if you count AHL). He seems strong on his skates and well balanced, I'm curious if he can become a tough guy who can earn a regular shift. If so you can trade him to Boston when Thornton retires.
Well, this morning, I did read that word on the street is that with Coach Q and Tippett being best of friends, they had a gentleman's agreement that Q would not unleash Bollig on Torres (personally, I think Torres deserves no slack). That way, it would not be a total destroying of Torres and would effectively stop the bad blood between the teams and make the game out of control?

Dunno how much truth there is to that rumor and or the logic. Just saying that's what I read.



Bollig is intriguing...He has some skating ability and in the games he's played has taken a regular shift on the 4th line and did his job nicely playing north and south. I like him and he's leaps and bounds better overall than John Scott.
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And black label, Chicago's done being your farm team for stud prospects...Toronto has taken up that enviable task.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Well, this morning, I did read that word on the street is that with Coach Q and Tippett being best of friends, they had a gentleman's agreement that Q would not unleash Bollig on Torres (personally, I think Torres deserves no slack). That way, it would not be a total destroying of Torres and would effectively stop the bad blood between the teams and make the game out of control?

Dunno how much truth there is to that rumor and or the logic. Just saying that's what I read.



Bollig is intriguing...He has some skating ability and in the games he's played has taken a regular shift on the 4th line and did his job nicely playing north and south. I like him and he's leaps and bounds better overall than John Scott.
It's not hard to believe they are good friends, they did play together for the Hartford Whalers. I just read an article this AM regarding how many players from the 88-92 Whalers are still involved in coaching/team management.

Kevin Dineen - Panthers Coach

Ron Francis - Hurricanes VP of Hockey Ops

Dave Babych - Canucks Asst Director of Player Personnel

Dave Tippett - Coyotes Coach

John Anderson - Former Thrashers Coach, Current Coyotes Assistant.

Ulf Samuelsson - MoDo Coach (SEL), Former Coyotes Assistant

Jody Hull - Peterborough Petes (OHL) Coach

Dean Evason - Former Capitals Assistant, Milwaukee Admirals (AHL) Coach

Brian Lawton - Former Lightning GM

Norm MacIver - Blackhawks Asst GM

Don Maloney - Coyotes GM

Joel Quenneville - Blackhawks Coach

Randy Ladouceur - Former Hurricanes, Canadiens Assistant

Brad Shaw - Blues Associate Coach

Mike Liut - Player Agent

Brent Peterson - Former Predators Associate Coach

Peter Sidorkiewicz - Erie Otters (OHL) Assistant

Mark Reeds - Senators Assistant

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Ray Ferraro - Hockey Broadcaster

Doug Jarvis - Bruins Assistant

Pat Verbeek - Lightning Assistant GM

Randy Cunneyworth - Former Canadiens Coach

Mikael Andersson - Lightning Scout

Doug Houda - Bruins Assistant

John Stevens - Former Flyers Coach, Kings Assistant

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Originally Posted by black label
Sorry but I got to admit, if I was at the game and Matt Cooke got hit hard and was injured, I would cheer for the hit. Some guys have karma waiting around the corner for them, they don't get my sympathy.

I felt the same way about Ulf Samuellson getting knocked out by a Tie Domi sucker punch. Players who have a reputation for dirty career ending hits deserved to be cheered while they lie in pain on the ice, you reap what you sow.
Yeah, Crosby has ended so many careers, be serious.

I don't care how much you don't like the star on another team, you shouldn't celebrate them getting injured, especially by something that's not within their control
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Yeah, Crosby has ended so many careers, be serious.

I don't care how much you don't like the star on another team, you shouldn't celebrate them getting injured, especially by something that's not within their control
Hmmmm, where in my post does Crosby come up?

Cooke and Crosby are both spelled and pronounced differently, mostly because they are actually two different people. And believe me if a scumbag like Cooke (check the spelling and pronunciation) was laying on the ice after a devastating hit, hell yeah I'm gonna cheer, I'd even hope it was a career ending injury. A career ending injury to a player like Cooke is good for the health and safety of the rest of the league.
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Originally Posted by black label
Hmmmm, where in my post does Crosby come up?

Cooke and Crosby are both spelled and pronounced differently, mostly because they are actually two different people. And believe me if a scumbag like Cooke (check the spelling and pronunciation) was laying on the ice after a devastating hit, hell yeah I'm gonna cheer, I'd even hope it was a career ending injury. A career ending injury to a player like Cooke is good for the health and safety of the rest of the league.
Yeah, I'm with you there. There are some players I admit I would not mind seeing their heads taken off:

- Torres
- Burrows
- Lapierre
- Bieksa
- Avery (he's gone though)

Dirty, dirty, dirty, and just plain dirty. You can play the game many ways...and those guys play it in such a way where it is just not necessary nor are the gains really there for what they do.

Cooke? Well, there was a time I would've lumped him in the same category as the 4 I just listed...but, he SEEMS to have cleaned up his act. So, here's hoping.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Cooke? Well, there was a time I would've lumped him in the same category as the 4 I just listed...but, he SEEMS to have cleaned up his act. So, here's hoping.
Cooke's clean up is almost insulting after years of cheap play. It just means he could have been an honorable player the whole time, he made the conscious choice to play dirty and target knees and heads. He doesn't even have the excuse that he was just trying to keep a job in the NHL any way he could (not that it would have been a good excuse).

He didn't clean up his play because of guilt for the people he injured, he cleaned up his play because the Shanahammer said he'd suspend him into oblivion if he kept it up and he wouldn't have a NHL job anymore.
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Cooke's clean up is almost insulting after years of cheap play. It just means he could have been an honorable player the whole time, he made the conscious choice to play dirty and target knees and heads. He doesn't even have the excuse that he was just trying to keep a job in the NHL any way he could (not that it would have been a good excuse).

He didn't clean up his play because of guilt for the people he injured, he cleaned up his play because the Shanahammer said he'd suspend him into oblivion if he kept it up and he wouldn't have a NHL job anymore.
Yeah, you do have a good point. Sadly, his play in the past showed absolutely zero respect for his fellow players.
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I will say I think there is a difference between dirty players like Torres who go out and do things that will most likely injure people and players like Burrows who is just a stupid dick and does shit that will really really annoy you. I could be wrong about Burrows though, I don't see him much, his finger biting was a pansy move but unless he had rabies it isn't likely to be career ending.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Yeah, I'm with you there. There are some players I admit I would not mind seeing their heads taken off:

- Torres
- Burrows
- Lapierre
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- Avery (he's gone though)
None of those guys do anything that players on any other team wouldn't/don't do on a regular basis. If we're gonna talk about dirty players, let's start listing the entire Bruins roster.
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None of those guys do anything that players on any other team wouldn't/don't do on a regular basis. If we're gonna talk about dirty players, let's start listing the entire Bruins roster.
Yeah, you're right everybody routinely gets suspended for 25 games for illegal hits based on their reputation for illegal hits. Do you watch this game or are you just in it for the riots?
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Originally Posted by KieranM37
None of those guys do anything that players on any other team wouldn't/don't do on a regular basis. If we're gonna talk about dirty players, let's start listing the entire Bruins roster.
Totally disagree. Let's just use Burrows as an example: You know anyone who takes cheapshots at other teams' players and then turtles during a fight? Or bites another player's fingers? Or even better, hair pulling?

How about Torres? Look at his rap sheet. How many games has he been suspended or fined for illegal hits?



Your point about the Bruins is blurred between playing tough versus playing just-wrong. The Bruins are the former...they are a big, physical team. Period. What they do are nothing like what I just described (i.e. Burrows, Torres). Heck, none of them has ever tomahawked another player over the head either with a stick.

Physical is not dirty-play.

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Although, one could argue that Marchand crosses the line with his type of play. But, I don't generally see the Bruins as dirty.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Although, one could argue that Marchand crosses the line with his type of play. But, I don't generally see the Bruins as dirty.
I kinda understand where you're coming from but I disagree with him being dirty. I think he really fits the bill of a player you hate to play but would love to have.

Marchand is a prick bastard, he's a rat fink, he's a sneaky Pete, and he's a colossal pain in the ass, but he's not trying to hurt anyone with his style of play. He's just trying to piss you off to the point that you give slash or a punch to the face and you take a penalty for it. He takes his lumps plenty for his style of play but he's willing to be slashed and targeted for his antics if the reward is a Bruins powerplay.

I can't think of anyone he's injured and he's only had one suspension which was for a hip check that was considered too low which is a tough call for a guy whose only 5'9".
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And a big to the blizzard moving the B's game to 7:00 tonight.

Teh B's are teh suck at teh matinee.
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And a big to the blizzard moving the B's game to 7:00 tonight.

Teh B's are teh suck at teh matinee.
it's cancelled
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Yeah, you're right everybody routinely gets suspended for 25 games for illegal hits based on their reputation for illegal hits. Do you watch this game or are you just in it for the riots?
Torres is the dirtiest of the bunch, but he wasn't even a Canuck when that happened so let's just leave the riot jokes out of this.

Besides...


Originally Posted by Yumcha
Totally disagree. Let's just use Burrows as an example: You know anyone who takes cheapshots at other teams' players and then turtles during a fight? Or bites another player's fingers? Or even better, hair pulling?

How about Torres? Look at his rap sheet. How many games has he been suspended or fined for illegal hits?



Your point about the Bruins is blurred between playing tough versus playing just-wrong. The Bruins are the former...they are a big, physical team. Period. What they do are nothing like what I just described (i.e. Burrows, Torres). Heck, none of them has ever tomahawked another player over the head either with a stick.

Physical is not dirty-play.
I dont know if you were being sarcastic or your memory was faded.. but


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Although, one could argue that Marchand crosses the line with his type of play. But, I don't generally see the Bruins as dirty.
Marchand is the WORST. Thornton and Lucic are pretty bad too. Lucic has made some questionable plays going back to his WHL days.

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I kinda understand where you're coming from but I disagree with him being dirty. I think he really fits the bill of a player you hate to play but would love to have.

Marchand is a prick bastard, he's a rat fink, he's a sneaky Pete, and he's a colossal pain in the ass, but he's not trying to hurt anyone with his style of play. He's just trying to piss you off to the point that you give slash or a punch to the face and you take a penalty for it. He takes his lumps plenty for his style of play but he's willing to be slashed and targeted for his antics if the reward is a Bruins powerplay.

I can't think of anyone he's injured and he's only had one suspension which was for a hip check that was considered too low which is a tough call for a guy whose only 5'9".
This video sums up my feelings on the Bruins.


Watch it to the end and you should have an idea of what I mean.
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None of those guys do anything that players on any other team wouldn't/don't do on a regular basis. If we're gonna talk about dirty players, let's start listing the entire Bruins roster.
Originally Posted by KieranM37


I dont know if you were being sarcastic or your memory was faded.. but

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnP18StCoHA
Apparently you don't know what you're talking about and when I say that, I mean you yourself, don't know what you yourself are talking about.

McSorely isn't on the roster, he hasn't been for quite a long time.


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