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Old 02-14-2011, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
That's like me judging you for who you work with..


If you don't like the Pens and Mario then just say it.


But I see no point bitching about the instigator rule in one hand and bitching that no one should speak up about it in the other. But you complaining and rumbling on a forum might help the matter
yea...when you can't see things for what they really are....just resort to the old "you must hate my team".....that's rich!

I had great respect for Mario, but I would have never thought he would be such a blow-hard.

I never said nobody should complain about it. I don't think you read the posts very well. I have said however that former players (like Mario) will look like blow-hards if they "speak up".

It should be the current group (players, owners, league) who if they don't like it or see that it turns fans away, they should do the talking. They have the credibility.

Any news yet on Mario leaving the game?
Old 02-14-2011, 04:03 PM
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To commemorate the retirement of Floppa!
Old 02-14-2011, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
I'm actually surprised the league hasn't done something about repeat offenders. They seemed to take a strong stance on Avery then gave up again. They have had several opportunities with Cooke and others. I say introduce a multiplier. Repeat offender? 2x normal length of suspension, 3x, 4x, 5x, make them less valuable when GM's are looking at them and slowly push them out of the league. That would make Cookes suspension at like 40+ games instead of the 4 or 6 games or whatever he got.

exactly,
I have said this to my friends and coworkers repeatedly.
Old 02-14-2011, 05:27 PM
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Versteeg to the Flyers

Kris Versteeg's tenure in Toronto has been a very short one as sources tell TSN that the Toronto Maple Leafs have sent the 24-year old forward to the Philadelphia Flyers in exchange for a pair of draft picks, one of them being a first round pick.
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Old 02-14-2011, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Time to get rid of the Neanderthal thinking and BS 'code'. The game will be just fine without it. Want proof of how good hockey can be without fighting?

Exibit A: Redwings regular season game.
Exibit B: Redwings playoff game.
Fixed.
Old 02-14-2011, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
wtf you talking bout. Ive never been a hawks fan. Im a Redwings fan.
I've twice seen you the Blackhawks a page after you the Wings in this thread - go back and check your posts. Very strange. Must be some moldy cheddar or stanky brats in your tailgate party.
Old 02-14-2011, 08:05 PM
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anyone care to take bets on how long it will be until someone blindsides Matt Cook, and then the rest of the line starts smashing away at him with their sticks?
Old 02-14-2011, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MWalsh9152
anyone care to take bets on how long it will be until someone blindsides Matt Cook, and then the rest of the line starts smashing away at him with their sticks?
Well, we all keep waiting for it...
Old 02-14-2011, 09:27 PM
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I've twice seen you the Blackhawks a page after you the Wings in this thread - go back and check your posts. Very strange. Must be some moldy cheddar or stanky brats in your tailgate party.
You =
Old 02-14-2011, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
You =

I've seen you rooting for the Bears to..!!
Old 02-14-2011, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Versteeg to the Flyers


http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=353885
I don't think the Flyers have had a 1st round pick or even 2nd rounder since the year they got van Riemsdyk...?

This would be basically their 3rd year in a row without picks in the first 2 rounds...Nuts, if you ask me.
Old 02-15-2011, 08:40 AM
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I don't get this Versteeg trade. Sure he's no sniper. But he's a bonafide solid NHL players that will net you 20 every year. And he's only 24. I think Burke just liked hearing the term '1st round pick' When in reality its going to be a 30th overall. Which is pretty much rolling the dice. Oh well, I got time......I hope.
Old 02-15-2011, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
I don't get this Versteeg trade. Sure he's no sniper. But he's a bonafide solid NHL players that will net you 20 every year. And he's only 24. I think Burke just liked hearing the term '1st round pick' When in reality its going to be a 30th overall. Which is pretty much rolling the dice. Oh well, I got time......I hope.

Does he want too much money or make too much? 1st round sounds good til, like you pointed out, it will be the end of 1st round. I agree he's def a guy you could keep around to teach the "hopefully" upcoming prospects.
Old 02-15-2011, 09:34 AM
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But it's two picks, with a first...
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good pickup, but they have more than enough secondary scoring. weird.
Old 02-15-2011, 10:31 AM
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Flyers paying big....rolling the dice....one shot to win it all this year.
Old 02-15-2011, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
But it's two picks, with a first...
Another dice roll. 3rd rounder. I don't mind picks buts isn't it a little too late for Burke to start building form the draft..... And as recently as 3 weeks ago he said he doesn't want picks back but NHL players or guys almost ready. Isn't that exactly what Versteeg is? Me thinks he's lost.
Old 02-15-2011, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Another dice roll. 3rd rounder. I don't mind picks buts isn't it a little too late for Burke to start building form the draft..... And as recently as 3 weeks ago he said he doesn't want picks back but NHL players or guys almost ready. Isn't that exactly what Versteeg is? Me thinks he's lost.
Picks are better....considering the "new" CBA is right around the corner....you don't want to get stuck with a nightmare contract.
Old 02-15-2011, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Picks are better....considering the "new" CBA is right around the corner....you don't want to get stuck with a nightmare contract.
Versteeg would hardly be a nightmare. 24 year old 20 goal/50 point man. He can't demand much.

After all, Burke just went out and picked up the 4.25 mill per year contract of Joffrey 'oft injured and under productive' Lupul. And has to eat that for 2.5 years.

Burke is spinning in circles.
Old 02-15-2011, 12:32 PM
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Now this was the kind of high impact move I've been waited for!!!

The Toronto Maple Leafs acquired Aaron Voros from the Anaheim Ducks on Tuesday in exchange for a conditional 7th round draft pick.

Voros will report directly to the Leafs' American Hockey League affiliate, the Toronto Marlies.

In 12 games with the Syracuse Crunch of the AHL this season, Voros has no points and 43 minutes in penalties.
No points and 43 minutes in penalties.... I don't know what to think.
Old 02-15-2011, 12:37 PM
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Now this was the kind of high impact move I've been waited for!!!



No points and 43 minutes in penalties.... I don't know what to think.
It's a diversion move by Burke....
Old 02-15-2011, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Versteeg would hardly be a nightmare. 24 year old 20 goal/50 point man. He can't demand much.

After all, Burke just went out and picked up the 4.25 mill per year contract of Joffrey 'oft injured and under productive' Lupul. And has to eat that for 2.5 years.

Burke is spinning in circles.
I'm not talking about Versteeg's contract, but rather if you were expecting a player in return.....in which case picks are better....at least for the Leafs
Old 02-15-2011, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
I'm not talking about Versteeg's contract, but rather if you were expecting a player in return.....in which case picks are better....at least for the Leafs
At this point I have no clue what's better. And neither does Burke.

Every move he's made has turned into
Old 02-15-2011, 04:13 PM
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THRASHERS SIGN BYFUGLIEN TO 5-YEAR, $26 MILLION EXTENSION

ATLANTA -- The Atlanta Thrashers locked up defenceman Dustin Byfuglien to a long-term contract Tuesday.

The US$26-million extension runs through the 2015-'16 season.

"Dustin has emerged into an elite player this season and been invaluable as a leader both on and off the ice," Thrashers general manager Rick Dudley said in a release. "It was a priority to sign him and we're looking forward to witnessing his all-star calibre play for many years to come."

Byfuglien, 25, leads the team with 43 points (17 goals, 26 assists) this season.

He has 152 points (72-80) in 318 career games with the Thrashers and Chicago Blackhawks. Byfuglien has 25 points (14-11) in 39 career playoff games.

He will receive $4.25 million for the next two seasons, $5.75 million in 2013-'14 and 2014-'15, and $6 million in 2015-'16.

The six-foot-five, 265-pound native of Minneapolis, Minn., won a Stanley Cup with the Blackhawks last spring. He was traded to the Thrashers in the off-season.
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Burke is spinning in circles.
What a mess.



Yzerman vs Holland: round one!
Old 02-15-2011, 08:31 PM
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THRASHERS SIGN BYFUGLIEN TO 5-YEAR, $26 MILLION EXTENSION


http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=353985

Damn it-I still wish the Blackhawks didn't let Buf go....
Old 02-15-2011, 08:51 PM
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Everything wrong with the NHL's concussion policy on display tonight in Boston. Mikail Grabovski was obvioulsy concussed not once but twice. Both times he had difficulty getting up and getting to the bench. And when he got there, not even a visit by the trainer, nevermind being removed from the game.

Interestingly enough, after both hits he goes on to score a goal. His second the game winner, and a beauty at that.
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Everything wrong with the NHL's concussion policy on display tonight in Boston. Mikail Grabovski was obvioulsy concussed not once but twice. Both times he had difficulty getting up and getting to the bench. And when he got there, not even a visit by the trainer, nevermind being removed from the game.

Interestingly enough, after both hits he goes on to score a goal. His second the game winner, and a beauty at that.
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B's picked up Chris Kelly from the Senators for a 2nd round pick.

Now we're ready for the playoffs
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Sens' firesale continues...Ruutu or Neil would be a nice pick-up for any playoff team needing a bit of bite/agitation...
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Leafs general manager Brian Burke said today that Grabovski did not suffer a concussion during the game.

“He would not have been allowed to return to play had he exhibited any symptoms of concussion,” Burke said via e-mail.

Burke added that Grabovski would not need to see a specialist today given a concussion had already been ruled out.

The NHL’s concussion protocol is laid out clearly on its website, with the head of the league and players’ union’s Concussion Working Group Dr. Reuben Echemendia describing the process.

“When a player comes off the ice and is suspected of having a concussion, the team athletic trainer, typically on the bench, will do an initial evaluation,” Enchemendia said. “If that evaluation raises concern with respect to concussion, then that player is taken to the dressing room, where a more extensive evaluation is undertaken by the team physician and the team athletic trainer.

“If at that time the player is determined to have had a concussion, then that triggers the concussion protocol, which means the player must be kept out of play until they are symptom-free, both at rest and on exertion.

“They are also then tested with a neuropsychological -- fairly extensive neuropsychological test battery conducted by the conducting neuropsychologist for each team. Those test data in consultation then go to the team physician, who integrates all of the data and makes the return-to-play decision.”

Because he did not appear to miss a shift in the game, playing close to his regular 19 minutes in ice time, Grabovski was likely only assessed on the bench by a team trainer after being hit by Chara.

In the midst of a breakout season, Grabovski is the Leafs leading goal scorer and is tied for 15th in the NHL with 24 after 56 games. He is expected to play tonight against the Buffalo Sabres.
Either the trainer didn't check, didn't care or couldn't tell. Either way he should be fired.

“I feel bruise in my eyes,” Grabovski told AM640 after the game. “But like I tell it before, it give me more motivation to play harder.”
Sure, clearly no concussion.
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extensive neuropsychological test battery conducted by the conducting neuropsychologist for each team
Conducted by the conducting neuropsychologist. My car is driven by the driver of the car and this post was typed by the person typing on my keyboard.
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Quenneville hospitalized...hope he recovers and pulls through.

Story here: http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...d-illness.html
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Damn, hope coach Q is OK
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Dom you weren't fuckin kidding man.. Holy shit..!! How did the coaches/trainers let him back on after the first on?? Chara on both hits Feel bad for Grabovski....

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damn that's a mean hit. Has Chara been givin a suspension for that hit?
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Mean flipping hit, but can't see suspension for that.
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any bets on how much longer it will be till the NHL puts the STOP logo's that are on minor hockey jersey's and helmets.
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NHL doesn't run the minor leagues. They have there own governing bodies.
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Mean flipping hit, but can't see suspension for that.
It's a head shot no?


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