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You think Fehr will cave? like Saskin caved? Goodenow wouldn't cave which is why he is where he is. Isn't Fehr supposed to be the best of the best?
But, don't the players have it pretty damn good right now? 57 Mill cap and a 40 mill minimum, both of which is probably going up next year. I'm sure they'll be quite happy with something similar. Minus the escrow.
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Hang in there, Little Schenn!
http://tsn.ca/world_jrs/story/?id=346520
Like Doughty delivered the Olympic Goldz to everyone in ....so to will you deliver the Junior Goldz to everyone in
See you on the Kings roster next year!
http://tsn.ca/world_jrs/story/?id=346520
Like Doughty delivered the Olympic Goldz to everyone in ....so to will you deliver the Junior Goldz to everyone in
See you on the Kings roster next year!
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WTF are those guys in green?
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Have you guys been watching the HBO Special about the Capitals and the Penguins (24/7 with.....)? The 2nd installment was tonight. It's pretty good....
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Have the Hawks turned the corner...? Third game in a row where they have put on a defensive gem...
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It's a joke related to the tv show It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, where one of the characters (Charlie) wears one of those costumes to taunt the Philly Ferentic (sp?) and ends up fighting with the mascot. There's a few episodes where he busts it out to taunt people, it's pretty hilarious. My friend ordered one online for Halloween it was hilarious.
Those chroma key guys are wack! That Christmas list and waffles is
I'm really enjoying this, I hope this is something they will continue to do. And than gawd they fixed the lighting on the close up interviews.
I know hockey players are a certain sort of people, but the stuff that Crosby does is just , that old ass cup, walking completely around the building on game day, so he doesn't walk by the visiting team. And that (not sure who did it) cutting the laces and the bubble gum...
I know hockey players are a certain sort of people, but the stuff that Crosby does is just , that old ass cup, walking completely around the building on game day, so he doesn't walk by the visiting team. And that (not sure who did it) cutting the laces and the bubble gum...
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Good times in Jersey: John MacLean kicked to the curb and replaced with Jacques Lemaire (for the time being)
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=346655
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=346655
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Still am kinda perplexed why the Devils stink so much.
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^^ Cancer of a player/contract who signed with a team that does not play his style.
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http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2010/12/20/2...als-episode-1/
Matt Cooke cut Bissonett's laces (ex-penguin). And put bubble gum in one guy's glove fingers. hahaha.
Matt Cooke cut Bissonett's laces (ex-penguin). And put bubble gum in one guy's glove fingers. hahaha.
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Bissonnette:
So HBO didn't put my comments about Cooke cutting my laces on the show? The fans were cheated. They asked if I was mad Cooke did it. I said no, as long as he didn't put BBQ sauce on my face before this interview. Then they asked what I would do to get back at him. And I said I'm not playing so ill have to throw a hotdog & popcorn at him from the pressbox
So HBO didn't put my comments about Cooke cutting my laces on the show? The fans were cheated. They asked if I was mad Cooke did it. I said no, as long as he didn't put BBQ sauce on my face before this interview. Then they asked what I would do to get back at him. And I said I'm not playing so ill have to throw a hotdog & popcorn at him from the pressbox
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Just an odd thing for me...Never would've thought NJ would be struggling this badly...
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^^ Nobody did.
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That's like saying the Kings wouldn't be better with Kopitar in the lineup I understand your "stats" but like the Miami Heat and every other team there's an adjustment period with new players. I was just pointing out they're playing without their best player.
That being said... Brodeur to the Caps (E5)
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How much of an adjustment did the Devils need? New players?
(E5) Ek is a clown!
(E5) Ek is a clown!
That's like saying the Kings wouldn't be better with Kopitar in the lineup I understand your "stats" but like the Miami Heat and every other team there's an adjustment period with new players. I was just pointing out they're playing without their best player.
That being said... Brodeur to the Caps (E5)
That being said... Brodeur to the Caps (E5)
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Kings finally got that Oilers monkey of their back.
Taylor Hall is
Taylor Hall is
Matt Cooke,... 1st Evar???
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Favorite tournament of the year. Anybody know if they are broadcasting the Canada-Russia game in the US?? I know they are televising all US games on NHL network but I really do they show all the games like they did last year.
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Nice to see the Hawks maintaining their roll...and Turco finally win a game.
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SUTTER STEPS DOWN AS FLAMES GM; FEASTER NAMED SUCCESSOR
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=347102
He's made quite the mess of that team over the last few years.
And it was very nice of Ken King to play the 'stepping down' game.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=347102
CALGARY -- With his team languishing near the basement of the NHL's Western Conference, Darryl Sutter stepped down as executive vice-president and general manager of the Calgary Flames on Tuesday.
Assistant GM Jay Feaster was named acting general manager and will assume complete responsibility for day-to-day hockey operations.
"Darryl has performed valuable service to the Calgary Flames organization for eight years," president and chief executive officer Ken King said in a statement. "He was the leader that ignited a renaissance of Flames hockey, moving us from a non-playoff team to an organization that was viewed as a respected and popular contender each year.
"We are pleased Darryl has agreed to assist in an orderly transition and will provide his valuable guidance in the process. He remains dedicated to the success of the team he worked so hard to build."
King said Feaster will handle the GM's duties until season's end.
"We believe that while we continue to compete for a playoff position this season, this period will provide both the organization and Jay time to decide on critical future decisions," he said.
Entering Tuesday night's games, the Flames (16-18-3) were fourth in the Northwest Division, just five points up on last-place Edmonton.
Sutter, a 52-year-old from Viking, Alta., has been with the organization since 2002 when he was hired to coach the club. He took on the role of GM the following year.
He relinquished the job of coach in 2006, but remained GM.
The Flames are one of the oldest teams in the NHL with an average age of 29.9. They're also an expensive team at the salary cap limit.
While the dismissal of NHL coaches and general managers is not uncommon, the move resonates in Alberta where the Sutter name is revered in the hockey community. Six Sutter brothers played in the NHL and four of them -- Darryl, Brian, Duane and Brent -- have all coached in it as well.
Darryl Sutter's departure also throws the future of his siblings in the organization into question. Darryl hired Brent in the summer of 2009 to coach the team. Duane is the team's director of player personnel.
When Sutter arrived in Calgary to coach the team in 2002, the franchise was emerging from a dark time. A seven-year absence from the playoffs sent season ticket sales into a tailspin in 1999 and 2000, which required a "Save the Flames" campaign by the team to survive.
In his first year in the dual roles of coach and GM in 2003-04, the Flames reached the Stanley Cup final and lost to Tampa Bay in seven games. During that run, then-Prime Minister Paul Martin called them "Canada's team."
The fan base was energized, but their expectations thereafter were much higher. After the lockout of 2004-05, Sutter coached the team to first place in the Northwest with 103 points, but the club lost in the first round to Anaheim.
Sutter then stepped down as coach to concentrate on managing the club. Three coaches followed over the next four years: Jim Playfair, Mike Keenan and his brother Brent.
After Darryl gave up his coaching duties, the Flames exited the playoffs in the first round three straight years before missing the playoffs last season in Brent's first campaign on the team's bench.
Sutter's record as Calgary's general manager is mixed. One of his top moves was acquiring goaltender Miikka Kiprusoff for a second-round draft pick in 2003 when the Finn was a backup in San Jose. Kiprusoff won the Vezina Trophy at the conclusion of the team's run to the Stanley Cup final. He's one of the premier goaltenders in the NHL.
Among the other moves which bred more modest success was getting forward Rene Bourque from Chicago for a draft pick two years ago. Bourque is a multi-purpose player who provides secondary scoring.
Centre Daymond Langkow, defenceman Cory Sarich and forward David Moss, who are still with the club, and forward Mike Cammalleri, who spent one season in a Flames uniform in 2008-09, were fruitful acquisitions during his tenure.
Defenceman Jay Bouweester's performance has been mixed, but landing the blue-liner in the summer of 2009 before he entered unrestricted free agency was a coup for Sutter at the time, although an expensive one.
The drafting of defenceman Dion Phaneuf ninth overall in 2003 paid off in the short-term. A nominee for the Calder, and then the Norris in his first two seasons in the league, Phaneuf helped generate offence from the back end. His defensive play, however, did not progress, which was a contributing factor to his trade to Toronto on Jan. 31, 2010
Of Sutter's other seven first-round draft picks, only Swede Mikael Backlund has become a regular in the lineup. Calgary didn't have a first- or second-round draft pick this year because they were traded to Phoenix for Olli Jokinen and to Chicago for Bourque.
After a run of nine games without a victory last January, Sutter made multi-player trades Jan. 31 with Toronto and Feb. 1 with New York that have not had much impact for the Flames.
Sutter was never able to land a top-line centre to complement captain and right-winger Jarome Iginla. Sutter believed Jokinen was the answer on two separate occasions, but Jokinen hasn't been a regular on the top line.
After giving up a first-round pick to get Jokinen from Phoenix at the 2009 trade deadline, Sutter traded the Finn and Brandon Prust to New York on Feb. 1 last season to get Ales Kotalik and Chris Higgins.
Sutter then re-signed Jokinen when free agency opened July 1 in a move that seemed bizarre, given the fact Jokinen didn't provide much scoring impact during his first stint as a Flame.
Higgins signed with Florida in the off-season. The Flames put Kotalik on waivers during the summer, but there were no takers for him and his US-million salary. He's played only four games for Calgary after returning from a long-term knee injury.
Sutter included forward Fredrik Sjostrom, and prospect defenceman Keith Aulie in the Phaneuf deal with Toronto on Jan. 31 to acquire forwards Matt Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Jamal Mayers and defenceman Ian White.
Kotalik, Stajan and Hagman produced 11 goals between them after their arrival in Calgary last season, although Sutter thought highly enough of the 27-year-old Stajan to re-sign him to a multi-year deal.
White was traded along with Brett Sutter to Carolina in November and Mayers, an enforcer, signed with Tampa Bay in the off-season. Stajan has two goals and 16 assists in 32 games this season, while Hagman has 17 points (8-9) in 37 games.
Feaster joined the Flames last July as the club's assistant general manager. He captured a Stanley Cup title as the Tampa Bay Lightning's GM in 2004 and Calder Cup championship as president of the AHL's Hershey Bears in 1997.
Sutter was drafted by the Chicago Blackhawks in the 11th round (179th overall) in the 1978 NHL entry draft. In 406 career games, he had 279 points (161 goals, 118 assists) and added 43 points (24-19) in 51 career playoff games before retiring following the 1986-'87 season.
Assistant GM Jay Feaster was named acting general manager and will assume complete responsibility for day-to-day hockey operations.
"Darryl has performed valuable service to the Calgary Flames organization for eight years," president and chief executive officer Ken King said in a statement. "He was the leader that ignited a renaissance of Flames hockey, moving us from a non-playoff team to an organization that was viewed as a respected and popular contender each year.
"We are pleased Darryl has agreed to assist in an orderly transition and will provide his valuable guidance in the process. He remains dedicated to the success of the team he worked so hard to build."
King said Feaster will handle the GM's duties until season's end.
"We believe that while we continue to compete for a playoff position this season, this period will provide both the organization and Jay time to decide on critical future decisions," he said.
Entering Tuesday night's games, the Flames (16-18-3) were fourth in the Northwest Division, just five points up on last-place Edmonton.
Sutter, a 52-year-old from Viking, Alta., has been with the organization since 2002 when he was hired to coach the club. He took on the role of GM the following year.
He relinquished the job of coach in 2006, but remained GM.
The Flames are one of the oldest teams in the NHL with an average age of 29.9. They're also an expensive team at the salary cap limit.
While the dismissal of NHL coaches and general managers is not uncommon, the move resonates in Alberta where the Sutter name is revered in the hockey community. Six Sutter brothers played in the NHL and four of them -- Darryl, Brian, Duane and Brent -- have all coached in it as well.
Darryl Sutter's departure also throws the future of his siblings in the organization into question. Darryl hired Brent in the summer of 2009 to coach the team. Duane is the team's director of player personnel.
When Sutter arrived in Calgary to coach the team in 2002, the franchise was emerging from a dark time. A seven-year absence from the playoffs sent season ticket sales into a tailspin in 1999 and 2000, which required a "Save the Flames" campaign by the team to survive.
In his first year in the dual roles of coach and GM in 2003-04, the Flames reached the Stanley Cup final and lost to Tampa Bay in seven games. During that run, then-Prime Minister Paul Martin called them "Canada's team."
The fan base was energized, but their expectations thereafter were much higher. After the lockout of 2004-05, Sutter coached the team to first place in the Northwest with 103 points, but the club lost in the first round to Anaheim.
Sutter then stepped down as coach to concentrate on managing the club. Three coaches followed over the next four years: Jim Playfair, Mike Keenan and his brother Brent.
After Darryl gave up his coaching duties, the Flames exited the playoffs in the first round three straight years before missing the playoffs last season in Brent's first campaign on the team's bench.
Sutter's record as Calgary's general manager is mixed. One of his top moves was acquiring goaltender Miikka Kiprusoff for a second-round draft pick in 2003 when the Finn was a backup in San Jose. Kiprusoff won the Vezina Trophy at the conclusion of the team's run to the Stanley Cup final. He's one of the premier goaltenders in the NHL.
Among the other moves which bred more modest success was getting forward Rene Bourque from Chicago for a draft pick two years ago. Bourque is a multi-purpose player who provides secondary scoring.
Centre Daymond Langkow, defenceman Cory Sarich and forward David Moss, who are still with the club, and forward Mike Cammalleri, who spent one season in a Flames uniform in 2008-09, were fruitful acquisitions during his tenure.
Defenceman Jay Bouweester's performance has been mixed, but landing the blue-liner in the summer of 2009 before he entered unrestricted free agency was a coup for Sutter at the time, although an expensive one.
The drafting of defenceman Dion Phaneuf ninth overall in 2003 paid off in the short-term. A nominee for the Calder, and then the Norris in his first two seasons in the league, Phaneuf helped generate offence from the back end. His defensive play, however, did not progress, which was a contributing factor to his trade to Toronto on Jan. 31, 2010
Of Sutter's other seven first-round draft picks, only Swede Mikael Backlund has become a regular in the lineup. Calgary didn't have a first- or second-round draft pick this year because they were traded to Phoenix for Olli Jokinen and to Chicago for Bourque.
After a run of nine games without a victory last January, Sutter made multi-player trades Jan. 31 with Toronto and Feb. 1 with New York that have not had much impact for the Flames.
Sutter was never able to land a top-line centre to complement captain and right-winger Jarome Iginla. Sutter believed Jokinen was the answer on two separate occasions, but Jokinen hasn't been a regular on the top line.
After giving up a first-round pick to get Jokinen from Phoenix at the 2009 trade deadline, Sutter traded the Finn and Brandon Prust to New York on Feb. 1 last season to get Ales Kotalik and Chris Higgins.
Sutter then re-signed Jokinen when free agency opened July 1 in a move that seemed bizarre, given the fact Jokinen didn't provide much scoring impact during his first stint as a Flame.
Higgins signed with Florida in the off-season. The Flames put Kotalik on waivers during the summer, but there were no takers for him and his US-million salary. He's played only four games for Calgary after returning from a long-term knee injury.
Sutter included forward Fredrik Sjostrom, and prospect defenceman Keith Aulie in the Phaneuf deal with Toronto on Jan. 31 to acquire forwards Matt Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Jamal Mayers and defenceman Ian White.
Kotalik, Stajan and Hagman produced 11 goals between them after their arrival in Calgary last season, although Sutter thought highly enough of the 27-year-old Stajan to re-sign him to a multi-year deal.
White was traded along with Brett Sutter to Carolina in November and Mayers, an enforcer, signed with Tampa Bay in the off-season. Stajan has two goals and 16 assists in 32 games this season, while Hagman has 17 points (8-9) in 37 games.
Feaster joined the Flames last July as the club's assistant general manager. He captured a Stanley Cup title as the Tampa Bay Lightning's GM in 2004 and Calder Cup championship as president of the AHL's Hershey Bears in 1997.
Sutter was drafted by the Chicago Blackhawks in the 11th round (179th overall) in the 1978 NHL entry draft. In 406 career games, he had 279 points (161 goals, 118 assists) and added 43 points (24-19) in 51 career playoff games before retiring following the 1986-'87 season.
And it was very nice of Ken King to play the 'stepping down' game.
Last edited by dom; 12-28-2010 at 03:32 PM.
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I guess I'm alone in this thread. I knew you Yanks would stop caring about hockey eventually.
I know there are some players that need to hone their craft in the minors first, but how many of them become elite players after that? So it looks like yet another Leaf savior is gone.
The Toronto Maple Leafs have returned forward Nazem Kadri to the Toronto Marlies of the American Hockey League.
The team made the move on Wednesday, one night after a 4-3 loss to the Carolina Hurricanes.
Kadri, 20, began the season with the Marlies and was called up to the Maple Leafs on Nov. 12. He has tallied six assists in 17 NHL games.
In 14 games with the Marlies earlier this season, Kadri had five goals and nine assists in 14 games.
The team made the move on Wednesday, one night after a 4-3 loss to the Carolina Hurricanes.
Kadri, 20, began the season with the Marlies and was called up to the Maple Leafs on Nov. 12. He has tallied six assists in 17 NHL games.
In 14 games with the Marlies earlier this season, Kadri had five goals and nine assists in 14 games.