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Old 12-29-2010, 12:57 PM
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I'm here. No one but me cares about the Rangers.
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
I'm here.


And yes, I think you are the only one. Although Rounder lives in NY he's somehow a Pens fan.
Old 12-29-2010, 12:59 PM
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I admit they suck, but that is the true measure of a fan no?
Old 12-29-2010, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
I admit they suck, but that is the true measure of a fan no?
Absolutely. No one has sucked more and for longer than the Leafs (well except the Rangers for their 50 year drought ) but I'm still here.
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Absolutely. No one has sucked more and for longer than the Leafs (well except the Rangers for their 50 year drought ) but I'm still here.
Is it worse to have a team just plain suck or is it worse to have a team that is relatively competitive during the regular season but never makes it past the 2nd round of the playoffs. At least Toronto never gets your hopes up just to smash them to the ground.
Old 12-29-2010, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by black label
Is it worse to have a team just plain suck or is it worse to have a team that is relatively competitive during the regular season but never makes it past the 2nd round of the playoffs. At least Toronto never gets your hopes up just to smash them to the ground.
Hope > No Hope.

But The Leafs were there for a long time as well. I think at one point they had made the playoffs for 10+ years straight, only to disappoint. So I know how it feels. And IMO, not making the playoffs is worse. I still get giddy for a first round match up. And there's always those rare instances where a 7 or 8 team makes it deep into the playoffs. Last year there were 2, Montreal and Philly.
Old 12-29-2010, 01:27 PM
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Little Schenn with a goal and four assists!

Little Schenn gonna bring teh goldz to teh
Old 12-29-2010, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Little Schenn with a goal and four assists!

Little Schenn gonna bring teh goldz to teh

Canada has been very good to the LA Kings.



And isn't it 2 goals?

EDIT: 2 goals and 5 assists. Moog = sucks at scouting.
Old 12-29-2010, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by black label
Is it worse to have a team just plain suck or is it worse to have a team that is relatively competitive during the regular season but never makes it past the 2nd round of the playoffs. At least Toronto never gets your hopes up just to smash them to the ground.
For 7 seasons the Rangers did not make it, then they made it to the second round, then they were eliminated on the last day of the season. They are interesting!

lol

I like to call them the best mediocre team in the league.
Old 12-29-2010, 01:36 PM
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Yumchah, sit down and stay away from any sharp objects.....


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REPORT: BLACKHAWKS' TOEWS TO MISS 'COUPLE WEEKS' WITH INJURY

Just when the Chicago Blackhawks appeared to getting healthy, they may be forced to deal with another key injury.

According to Tim Sassone of the Daily Herald, Blackhawks head coach Joel Quenneville has confirmed that captain Jonathan Toews will be out a "couple weeks."

Toews was diagnosed with an upper-body injury after he took a hit from St. Louis Blues' forward Matt D'Agostini during the first period of their game Tuesday night. Toews skated off holding his right shoulder and the Blackhawks ended up losing the game 3-1.

On the season, Toews has 15 goals and 18 assists in 38 games.
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I guess I'm alone in this thread. I knew you Yanks would stop caring about hockey eventually.

It's the holidays! I'm off til Jan 4th. Think you're just the only one working or lack there of
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Originally Posted by dom
Hope > No Hope.

But The Leafs were there for a long time as well. I think at one point they had made the playoffs for 10+ years straight, only to disappoint. So I know how it feels. And IMO, not making the playoffs is worse. I still get giddy for a first round match up. And there's always those rare instances where a 7 or 8 team makes it deep into the playoffs. Last year there were 2, Montreal and Philly.
I believe the Bruins went about 29 seasons without missing the playoffs. Unfortunately the last time the cup in that run was '72 and I wasn't born yet, apparently the team name was spelled "Bruns" on the cup.

I just find it frustrating when they have a good product on the ice but it's sill missing the last few pieces that would make it a great product.

Originally Posted by e30cabrio
For 7 seasons the Rangers did not make it, then they made it to the second round, then they were eliminated on the last day of the season. They are interesting!

lol

I like to call them the best mediocre team in the league.
The Rangers had one of the best cup wins though. The things Messier did in that town were nothing short of magical. I also liked the Rangers for showing that you can't really buy a cup championship. They were spending some serious dough in the 90's and got no results for their investment.
Old 12-29-2010, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
It's the holidays! I'm off til Jan 4th. Think you're just the only one working or lack there of
Excuses. I knew you were a phony hockey fan.

Do you even know how long Crosby's point streak is right now? Without using google?
Old 12-29-2010, 02:06 PM
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The USA team is fast and stronger than last seasons team. I would say USA 4-2
Old 12-29-2010, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by black label
The Rangers had one of the best cup wins though. The things Messier did in that town were nothing short of magical. I also liked the Rangers for showing that you can't really buy a cup championship. They were spending some serious dough in the 90's and got no results for their investment.
Both of those statements are 100% true. They still spend the most or near the most. Proves chemistry is as important as talent.
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
Both of those statements are 100% true. They still spend the most or near the most. Proves chemistry is as important as talent.
With the cap things are much more equal but back in the late 90's and early 00's they snagging superstars like and paying crazy $$$ and failing miserably. 02-03 they had Eric Lindros, Mark Messier, Bobby Holik, Pavel Bure, Brian Leetch, Alexei Kovalev and went 32-36-10-4. One of the reasons I love hockey more than the other professional sports is that you can't buy championships. Like dom mentioned, there's always a 7/8 seed cinderella story, it's a game where the character of the players plays a huge factor in the success of the team.
Old 12-29-2010, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Canada has been very good to the LA Kings.



And isn't it 2 goals?

EDIT: 2 goals and 5 assists. Moog = sucks at scouting.
I was speaking of his last game only

Junior goldz for all of Canadia!!
Little Schenn will deliver like Doughty did before him.
The LA Kings have been very good to the Eskimos!!
Old 12-29-2010, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
I was speaking of his last game only

Junior goldz for all of Canadia!!
Little Schenn will deliver like Doughty did before him.
The LA Kings have been very good to the Eskimos!!
And 3 goals and an assist already tonight with more than half the game left.

HE SHOULD BE A LEAF!
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Excuses. I knew you were a phony hockey fan.

Do you even know how long Crosby's point streak is right now? Without using google?

Fuckin jinx.......
Old 12-29-2010, 08:52 PM
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Rangers beat the second worst team in the league!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sweet backhand goal

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Fuckin jinx.......
Old 12-30-2010, 03:16 AM
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Sweet backhand goal

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Great goal.


Question, why does the Caps fan in the stands have a helmet on?
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Yumchah, sit down and stay away from any sharp objects.....


ok?



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REPORT: BLACKHAWKS' TOEWS TO MISS 'COUPLE WEEKS' WITH INJURY
If they miss the playoffs, this is the reason.








And @ the Blues...
Old 12-30-2010, 11:51 AM
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Didn't realize the Hawks were in 8th.

The good news is they're only 2 points out of fourth.

The bad news is they're only 4 points up on 14th.
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Didn't realize the Hawks were in 8th.

The good news is they're only 2 points out of fourth.

The bad news is they're only 4 points up on 14th.
The Western Conference is nuts.



Not sure why the quality of teams between the two conferences is so different...
Old 12-30-2010, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
The Western Conference is nuts.



Not sure why the quality of teams between the two conferences is so different...
It was like that and probably still is in the NBA as well. Probably just a coincidence.

Remember all those years of NFC dominance in the early to late 90's?
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On 24/7 last night (which was really good), they showed Lovejoy getting hit in the face by a puck, in the locker room they stitched him up, not bad, from flying with the team to DC, he became Mask. Man did his face blow up.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
On 24/7 last night (which was really good), they showed Lovejoy getting hit in the face by a puck, in the locker room they stitched him up, not bad, from flying with the team to DC, he became Mask. Man did his face blow up.

Sid and MAF reaction was funny as hell.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
The Western Conference is nuts.

Not sure why the quality of teams between the two conferences is so different...

Side note but somewhat related.. wish they got rid of the 1 point for OT loss. Really fucks things up IMO.
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Side note but somewhat related.. wish they got rid of the 1 point for OT loss. Really fucks things up IMO.


I brought that up about 200 pages ago. I liked it when they did it originally because teams were playing to not lose in OT instead of playing to win but now that we will always have a clear winner I say no points for losers but some say the purists would be mad with games being settled with shoot outs.
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3 points for a win, easy solution.

Anyone else more excited about today's alumni game than they are about tomorrow's?

Mario back on ice
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3 points for a win, easy solution.

Anyone else more excited about today's alumni game than they are about tomorrow's?

Mario back on ice
How about 0 points for a regulation tie, 1 point for finishing the 4 on 4 OT in a tie, then 1 point for the shoot out.



I just see no reason to give a point for finishing regulation in a tie now that all games will end one team being declared the victor.
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Originally Posted by black label
How about 0 points for a regulation tie, 1 point for finishing the 4 on 4 OT in a tie, then 1 point for the shoot out.



I just see no reason to give a point for finishing regulation in a tie now that all games will end one team being declared the victor.
Sure. There are about 4 or 5 better ways to award points than the one they're using now. I think a regulation win should count for more than an OT or SO win.

So 3 - 2 - 1

3 in regulation
2 in OT
1 for SO

That will hopefully get teams moving in the 60 minutes.
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Anyone else more excited about today's alumni game than they are about tomorrow's?

Mario back on ice

Don't get me started.... for some impressive reason they aren't showing the Alumni game live in the US..
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Not sure if if its on up here. But I'd bet a Steelers first round playoff exit that it is.
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The NHL's Best GMs For The Buck

Forbes

Rk GM $/point
1 David Poile, Nashville Predators $397,778
2 Doug Wilson, San Jose Sharks $420,037
3 Ken Holland, Detroit Red Wings $428,675
4 Darcy Regier, Buffalo Sabres $438,889
5 Don Waddell, Atlanta Thrashers $444,076
6 Ray Shero, Pittsburgh Penguins $444,963
7 George McPhee, Washington Capitals $448,380
8 Jim Rutherford, Carolina Hurricanes $455,224
9 Garth Snow, New York Islanders $455,627
10 Brian Burke, Toronto Maple Leafs $480,215
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Not sure if if its on up here. But I'd bet a Steelers first round playoff exit that it is.

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It's live on Pens website if anyone wants to watch.. 4-3 Caps in 2nd.
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Forbes

Rk GM $/point
1 David Poile, Nashville Predators $397,778
2 Doug Wilson, San Jose Sharks $420,037
3 Ken Holland, Detroit Red Wings $428,675
4 Darcy Regier, Buffalo Sabres $438,889
5 Don Waddell, Atlanta Thrashers $444,076
6 Ray Shero, Pittsburgh Penguins $444,963
7 George McPhee, Washington Capitals $448,380
8 Jim Rutherford, Carolina Hurricanes $455,224
9 Garth Snow, New York Islanders $455,627
10 Brian Burke, Toronto Maple Leafs $480,215
What were the calculation used to come up with those numbers? Burke is in the top 10? That can't be right. He's the highest paid in the league and has a 28th overall team? He makes 4.5 mill and has 30 points.


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