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Old Oct 14, 2017 | 09:54 AM
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I thought the exact same thing about a Rogue rental.

I was disappointed to see that's what they gave us, but driving it was a pleasant surprise. Mostly highway usage. I thought it was decent for an entry-level CUV, but perhaps the bar was set very low from the beginning.
I had a Rogue once too. Best Nissan that I've rented. Can't remember if it was a Saintor Version (SV) or not.

I've been traveling every week and am Emerald Aisle so I try to pick a car I've never driven each time. New Camry sucked but really impressed with gas mileage ... was peppier and thriftier than the Fusion Hybrid I had one week. Had a Kia Soul this past week that I didn't hate. This week I might have to finally take one of those Chevy things that are always left lonely at the end of the row.
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Old Oct 14, 2017 | 10:12 AM
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^ I had the same impression of the Kia Soul. I actually got to my hotel and went to look one up and option it out. Not a bad little car for the money. I thought it'd be a perfect car to give your kid to take to college.

Shocked by a Kia... What is the world coming to?
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Old Oct 14, 2017 | 10:46 AM
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Honda dealers that sold it without a markup will get more CTRs in the next shipment of them supposedly.

I could do with less red in the interior, mainly the seats and the steering wheel. The vents could be not-fake too. But it performs better than its competitors and it seems very liveable on the street.
Yep! It's around 3-4k around Socal dealerships. Can't wait to snag the 2018s next year!

Wish the front seats were grey or black Alcantara but guess Type R is Red. The seats were super comfy though. Slightly more bolstered than BRZ seats. The only fake vent on the car is the big ones in the rear bumper. Such a dumb move by Honda. haha Oh well! It's much faster than STi, Golf R and FoRS for less money.

And it looks so ricey that I love it.
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Old Oct 14, 2017 | 10:56 AM
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Someone on the civic forum bought a new type r at Santa Barbara for msrp
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Old Oct 14, 2017 | 04:50 PM
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Guys, I'm trying to help a friend out. We're stumped on why his car isn't running. It's a Mazda 626 with 0 compression on all 4 cylinders and apparently a coolant leak/faulty coolant gauge. Non-interference motor.

He says the timing belt is fine, and swears up and down the motor is in time. Crank and cam gears aligned, intake and exhaust valves closed with the piston at TDC. The compression tester read fine on another car, so he's sure it's reading accurately.

What else would cause a motor to read 0 compression on all cylinders? Overheating?
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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 01:15 AM
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Someone on the civic forum bought a new type r at Santa Barbara for msrp
Yeah, there are some places you can get one at sticker, if you are really interested and ready to buy. I'm waiting for the second model year, so nothing to lose for me.
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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 10:43 AM
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Yeah, there are some places you can get one at sticker, if you are really interested and ready to buy. I'm waiting for the second model year, so nothing to lose for me.
get ur used sienna yet?
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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Aman
Guys, I'm trying to help a friend out. We're stumped on why his car isn't running. It's a Mazda 626 with 0 compression on all 4 cylinders and apparently a coolant leak/faulty coolant gauge. Non-interference motor.

He says the timing belt is fine, and swears up and down the motor is in time. Crank and cam gears aligned, intake and exhaust valves closed with the piston at TDC. The compression tester read fine on another car, so he's sure it's reading accurately.

What else would cause a motor to read 0 compression on all cylinders? Overheating?
zero compression and coolant leak / over heating.. Blown head gasket.. Too easy drill sergeant.
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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 05:40 PM
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Yep! It's around 3-4k around Socal dealerships. Can't wait to snag the 2018s next year!

Wish the front seats were grey or black Alcantara but guess Type R is Red. The seats were super comfy though. Slightly more bolstered than BRZ seats. The only fake vent on the car is the big ones in the rear bumper. Such a dumb move by Honda. haha Oh well! It's much faster than STi, Golf R and FoRS for less money.

And it looks so ricey that I love it.
It is?
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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 11:49 PM
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get ur used sienna yet?
Not yet. Have to wash the Avant and put it up for sale but too busy these days

Originally Posted by SamDoe1
It is?
Clash of Clans: 2017 Type R vs 2018 370Z vs 2018 STI

Much better in just about every single catergory. Our socal track laptimes indicate the real world performance difference between them too. The car can be seen as a fugly car to someone but the performance is there for sure.
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 03:15 PM
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holyyyyy shttttttt

moar pictures inside.

https://www.classicdriver.com/en/art...e-time-capsule

Delivery-mileage McLaren F1 emerges from Japanese time capsule]

16 October 2017

Every once in a while, a truly remarkable, utterly mind-blowing complete game-changer of a car comes into the market and sets the world alight. Today is one of those days, as a completely untouched, delivery-mileage McLaren F1 has just come out of the shadows, and Classic Driver has all the details…

Who could possibly look at this Dandelion Yellow McLaren F1 and resist the urge to get behind the wheel and open it up on a long and empty road? No one — except for one iron-willed and unwavering Japanese businessman. But surely if he wasn’t going to drive it, he’d at least sit in the centre cockpit and pretend to hit that redline for a little while, right? Wrong — that would disrupt the perfectly placed factory protective wrapping covering every element of the interior, and as can be seen, it’s all still intact 20 years on.
Like you’ve never seen

We can safely say that to find any car with just 239km on the clock (all from factory testing), still in its factory protective wrapping, maintained in a climate-controlled building, and complete with all its factory-delivered accessories, is a very special occasion, indeed. But this isn’t just any car, this is one of the greatest road cars ever built — one that completely disrupted the established supercar hierarchy with its Formula 1-inspired centre cockpit, carbon-composite chassis, 627bhp naturally aspirated engine, wind-tunnel tested aerodynamics, and minimalist interior.
Nonpareil

When Gordon Murray threw out the supercar rulebook and began designing the McLaren F1 in 1989, the possibility of someone never driving the machine surely never crossed his mind — and why would it? For when it was released in 1992, it was the closest thing to a Formula 1 car for the road, claiming the title of the world’s fastest naturally aspirated production car at 243 mph — a title it still holds to this day.
Signed, sealed, delivered

The restraint of this one man could never have been fathomed, nor could his style. To complement its low mileage — we hate to repeat, but 239km! — and protective wrapping, the McLaren is finished in oh-so-vibrant Dandelion Yellow over a dark grey Alcantara interior, with a dark grey and Solar Yellow driver’s seat. Along with the tool roll and its original gold-plated titanium tools, the ultra-rare accompanied TAG Heuer watch with the car's chassis number engraved on the face (also completely untouched and still with its protective plastic cover), what may be the rarest and most desirable option of all is the hand-written Gordon Murray signature on the rear of the body.
Golden goose

This car truly is a virgin, time-warp McLaren F1, and the dedication to preserve it in its original factory condition by its one and only owner for the past 20 years is more than evident. With its sale, it’s sure to become the most expensive McLaren F1 in the world, further bolstering the car’s reputation as the ‘modern-day Ferrari 250 GTO’. Tom Hartley Jnr, who is currently offering this car for sale, agrees: “For me, a McLaren F1 is the greatest car ever built, and when you consider its rarity, with only 64 road cars produced, and the fact that the younger generations desire one of these more than, say, a Ferrari 250 GTO, then I have no doubt that they’ll overtake the GTO in value one day.” And when it comes to its new owner, Hartley Jnr thinks that “the car will be bought by someone who wasn’t in a position to buy one when new and is now happy to pay the premium for the only ‘new’ example left, or by someone who will want to continue to preserve it ‘as delivered’ and get pleasure out of knowing they own the very best example of the greatest car ever built.” To have this car come into the market is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and Classic Driver is thrilled to announce its arrival.

Photos: Tom Hartley Jnr

This delivery-mileage McLaren F1 is being offered for sale by Tom Hartley Jnr., who is known for uncovering and selling blue-chip collector cars, including the only RHD Ferrari 250 California Spyder in existence, the Mercedes-Benz W125 Grand Prix car from the Bernie Ecclestone collection, and an unrestored Ferrari 250TR of Pebble Beach fame, to name but a few. This will be the third McLaren F1 he has sold this year.








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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 03:42 PM
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That car will go for more money than I'll see in a lifetime.
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 03:49 PM
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$20 million example all day. They're not even resold with the watch anymore let alone the entire accessory collection.
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 03:52 PM
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$20??? damn, I'm thinking $30+
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 04:32 PM
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That car will go for more money than I'll see in a lifetime.
have more self confidence
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 07:40 PM
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
$20??? damn, I'm thinking $30+
The example that sold this past fall sold for $15.6m after the buyer's fee which is the current record. While rare, I don't think there's enough there even with the tool kit, full documentation, accessories & delivery condition to warrant double the amount. The other issue is that this will have to go back to the factory immediately following purchase to have the fuel cell replaced requiring engine-out service & whatever else inspected. The color isn't the most desirable either.
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 09:49 PM
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Wow. The closest I'll ever get to owning that is the fact that I too have a black mini-maglight.
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Old Oct 17, 2017 | 06:55 AM
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^or a key ring
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Old Oct 17, 2017 | 09:25 AM
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https://www.topgear.com/car-news/top...3-vs-stopwatch

TG's latest drag races features two quite fast cars. Here are the numbers

The Mercedes-AMG E63 S is a deeply, deeply fast car. I can’t express that enough. It’s a super saloon with astonishing reactions, phenomenal traction and epic torque from its 4.0-litre twin turbo V8. 604bhp and a vast 626lb ft of torque from 2,500-4,500rpm. That’s colossal, even for a car that weighs almost two tonnes. The figures we got out of it when we first tested it were the fastest we’ve ever had from a saloon – 0-60mph in a gnats under 3.2secs, 100mph in 7.2secs. Even today there aren’t many cars that will keep up. A Porsche 911 Turbo S, Audi R8 V10 Plus and, as we saw recently, the mighty Nissan GT-R are only slightly ahead.

But its rival here would pretty much match or better all of those supercars. The Tesla Model S P100D Ludicrous does a phenomenal job of overcoming its mass (it weighs a quarter of a tonne more than the Merc). Its twin electric motors develop 762bhp and 687lb ft, giving it a power to weight ratio of 339bhp/tonne, against the Merc’s 303bhp/tonne. But there’s more because of course the Tesla doesn’t have a conventional rev band. That power is available everywhere.

Anyway, the end result is that the Tesla – once you get the battery fully charged and pre-heated (Tesla went so far as to send a mobile supercharger along to this test so we could do it with the battery fully topped up), is bloody quick. The acceleration rates are interesting to analyse because the P100D goes through every increment roughly a tenth faster than the E63S. So at 30mph it’s three tenths ahead, at 60 six tenths and so on.

However, it never quite gets a second ahead. At 90mph it’s almost there (5.19secs plays 6.12), but from that point on the Mercedes starts to come back. I mention this in my commentary during the race – looking in the mirror I could tell the Tesla had stretched the gap as far as it would go and the Mercedes was starting to reel it back in. It’s nice to see this sensation reflected in the figures, too. So at all relevant speeds the Tesla is faster – just look at the 30-70mph figure to give you an indication of what it’s like joining a motorway. The Merc makes the leap in 2.68 seconds, but the Tesla is almost exactly half a second faster.

No, it didn’t go as fast as the figures say it should (2.5 to 60mph), which I found a bit frustrating, but then we were on a windy, old airfield rather than a high grip drag strip and we don’t use the one foot rollout allowance that the Americans favour. That’s cheating as far as I’m concerned, because the car’s already moving when the measurement starts. Just wanted to get that off my chest.

And yes, the Tesla’s launch control did play up. With amusing results for everyone watching as my head snapped back. That was less impressive. Gave me neck ache the following day, too – which goes to show just how hard these things go off the line, I guess.

Tesla E63 S

0-10: 0.45 0.52

0-20: 0.83 1.01

0-30: 1.21 1.50

0-40: 1.59 1.99

0-50: 2.06 2.59

0-60: 2.68 3.27

0-70: 3.40 4.18

0-80: 4.22 5.13

0-90: 5.19 6.12

0-100: 6.46 7.34

0-110: 8.01 8.85

0-120: 9.97 10.8

30-70mph: 2.19 2.68

¼ mile: 11.08 11.35
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Old Oct 17, 2017 | 09:35 AM
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have more self confidence
I do but am also realistic.
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 08:53 AM
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The new E63 is a fuggin beast. I just need a wagon variant
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
The new E63 is a fuggin beast. I just need more money

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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 09:35 AM
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Just watched the video in the TG article..
That fucking E63 launch tho.. that shit is bananas.. pretty much on point with a 911R
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 10:20 AM
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As badass as that ride is, if I have Mercedes high end money I'd go S63 2 door.

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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 10:21 AM
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Well, yeah. That was implied
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 10:22 AM
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The fact that thing kept up with the Tesla is extremely impressive.

Regardless, Benzo > Tesla
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
As badass as that ride is, if I have Mercedes high end money I'd go S63 2 door.

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Altho..

1) That's modded
2) It's like 80k more
3) You don't have to cart around little kids mang
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Old Oct 18, 2017 | 10:31 AM
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I have kids but almost pre-teen age. Vossens are $80k? If I have that kind of money, it's not my only car
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Word on the web is the #060 F1 has been on the market for a few years priced at $25-$27million which is close to Srika's estimate. However, it never had serious offers which may explain why a dealer has it now.
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I have kids but almost pre-teen age. Vossens are $80k? If I have that kind of money, it's not my only car
I think he means the S63 model is $80K more over a E63. CVTs aren't even $8K to my knowledge.
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Old Oct 19, 2017 | 06:58 AM
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Even that E63?
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Old Oct 19, 2017 | 08:24 AM
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I have kids but almost pre-teen age. Vossens are $80k? If I have that kind of money, it's not my only car
You don't need to buckle them up in car seats is my point mang
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I saw some dad in a G37 coupe buckling his kid in at daycare.. I LOL'd
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Old Oct 19, 2017 | 08:27 AM
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I think he means the S63 model is $80K more over a E63. CVTs aren't even $8K to my knowledge.
^ This..
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Old Oct 19, 2017 | 10:31 AM
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The example that sold this past fall sold for $15.6m after the buyer's fee which is the current record. While rare, I don't think there's enough there even with the tool kit, full documentation, accessories & delivery condition to warrant double the amount. The other issue is that this will have to go back to the factory immediately following purchase to have the fuel cell replaced requiring engine-out service & whatever else inspected. The color isn't the most desirable either.
Ah ok. Around 20 seems more likely.
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Old Oct 19, 2017 | 10:59 AM
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and oh yeah, at the E63S...... gawdamn that is a fast luxury sedan.
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
maybe we can do a 2 cars at the same dealer and do it even better

Wife is looking for Ultrasonic Blue with red interior. No go on the molten pearl. WRX Lmited has 37K miles on it. So probably will have 40k miles by December, when the trade will happen. Will keep you posted, if you are serious


The below orange is for sale. Almost for sale for a year. Price down to 50K, no bites. Original owner.


manheim has them going for 42-49k
lexus killed the resale on these
damn this link came up on my FB feed, I had to click, and then I was scrolling through the pix and I was like I think I've seen this picture before

https://cargur.us/gZkj_

beautiful.
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 09:19 AM
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Holy balls that's a good deal
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 11:14 AM
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damn this link came up on my FB feed, I had to click, and then I was scrolling through the pix and I was like I think I've seen this picture before

https://cargur.us/gZkj_

beautiful.
Told ya. Its been on sale for 15 months now I believe. That is what the market is on these, iven the serious discounts Lexus has been handing out on these......
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It's amazing how expensive the S5 has become but even more insane how expensive a fairly loaded M4 is now.

I don't see the RCF being in the class of the M4 and it doesn't seem to be in the same class as an Audi from a brand/model desirability perspective.

A loaded Mustang GT with the Performance Pack 2 is about $48k. A loaded GT350 stickers at $60K or so.

$79K for a loaded RCF is way overshooting their market IMO.

I'd say $55K for a loaded new RCF is about right. Undercuts the S5 by several thousand and people will be cross shopping the 440i and A5 against it in that price range.
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