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Just the fold down seats alone.
My brosef has the Town & Country (just before they switched back to Pacifica)
Super nice and convenient. Plus without a premium for nothing (ahem Sienna).
I love the way the Pacifica looks and the Stow and Go seats are the best on the market.
My main concern, which is probably everyone's, is what will a Pacifica be like in four years? Aside from badge snobbery, I don't know what the mid-term quality will be.
But all things equal, the Pacifica is my choice too.
As I said, I drove a fully loaded Pacifica. (Limited) The money you pay for that is well worth it. Touring-Elite Ody is near 50k.
I think I was low 40 when I priced out the Pacifica. My main concern is the reliability. I still find it strange that it used to be an SUV and now Minivan.
My old co-worker got a 17'' Touring L-Plus for a steal. If I was to somehow convince the wife I would try to snag a 17..
I've also seen some Pacifica's bagged already.
Last edited by Flipster23; 10-05-2017 at 09:32 AM.
I would still get Oddy just due to resale value alone... But it is a Minivan... it does not really matter which one you get... get the cheapest one and base model of course
The ody has some cool features, but really, in cabin camera, WTF. Just turn around and yell at your kids to knock that shit off.....
THOUGH I would never get it, I could see how that is incredibly useful. For example, when you have a very young child in a rear facing seat, a driver often doesn't know what the kid is doing. Yes there are those mirrors you can hang, but that is daytime only.
With the rear view camera (night vision), if you are driving at 10pm, you can see what your 3 month old is doing, instead of having to pull over, and check on your child.
Then again our 1987 Toyota Master Ace, had none of these features. It was mid engine, RWD, engine under the driver seat, dual sunroof, captain chairs that fully swiveled so you could play a card game on a road trip, and cool ice box.
You wrote in a couple places you guys are getting the new oddy and new CTR. How come change to sienna now?
Also are are you gonna get the new sienna ? The current one is long in the tooth
Had a long talk with wifey. She will get her car and I will get my car. The van will end up being a 3rd car for the family. Didn't want to spend $40k on a brand new Odyssey. And it's the first year, there's no deals to be had. Some of my friends have been following the car online, there's some issues with them too.
Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
Nooooooo
I know! The Avant has been so perfect.
Originally Posted by charliemike
RIP Audi Avant. I guess it was inevitable that you'd need to get something more practical.
I too am surprised you're not considering an Odyssey. I've heard good things about the new one.
My first comment ^
Originally Posted by Sarlacc
You still never checked out the Pacifica. Go do it.
Wife doesn't like Chrysler.
Originally Posted by Flipster23
Why Sienna? Thought you were doing the ody?
I drove a fully loaded Pacifica, it was damn nice. My wife doesn €™t want it though. She still likes the Ody.
Originally Posted by thoiboi
I see what you did there...
Time for bagged vans
Going to put some sporty wheels probably!
Originally Posted by Majofo
If I ever got a van (never)
I'd get a Pacifica..
Just the fold down seats alone.
My brosef has the Town & Country (just before they switched back to Pacifica)
Super nice and convenient. Plus without a premium for nothing (ahem Sienna).
Originally Posted by charliemike
I love the way the Pacifica looks and the Stow and Go seats are the best on the market.
My main concern, which is probably everyone's, is what will a Pacifica be like in four years? Aside from badge snobbery, I don't know what the mid-term quality will be.
But all things equal, the Pacifica is my choice too.
Originally Posted by Flipster23
As I said, I drove a fully loaded Pacifica. (Limited) The money you pay for that is well worth it. Touring-Elite Ody is near 50k.
I think I was low 40 when I priced out the Pacifica. My main concern is the reliability. I still find it strange that it used to be an SUV and now Minivan.
My old co-worker got a 17'' Touring L-Plus for a steal. If I was to somehow convince the wife I would try to snag a 17..
I've also seen some Pacifica's bagged already.
Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I would still get Oddy just due to resale value alone... But it is a Minivan... it does not really matter which one you get... get the cheapest one and base model of course
Originally Posted by Flipster23
We've been looking lately. I can get a 16' Oddy Touring for 32-34k which is surprising because just two years ago, they were selling for 48k.
Originally Posted by Majofo
you don't buy a van for resale
We would have 2 car seats in the 2nd row always, so that Pacifica feature doesn't really give us any extra benefits. And yeah, wife doesn't like Chrysler at all.
+2015 Sienna SE or XLE with around 30k miles can be had around $24k. These are the ones I want.
Want to keep it for a long time and seems like these Siennas are very reliable. Have so many friends who have these cars. haha
funny, enough...i pass through an apartment complex on the way to work, where ppl park their shit on the street..not even inside the complex...
every morning, there's always at least one shattered window.
I have seen dome really questionable decision making regarding street parking here in DC. There's a brand new M4 on my street. I've seen current generation 911s and even a Ferrari California parallel parked overnight in Georgetown.
As much as I agree with Sarlaac but with milder language, I don't know how you convince someone who is clearly not interested in a brand to consider it. Especially when the vehicle in question is so new that there's not a lot of rational evidence to back up an argument.
When I was thinking about the Buick TourX, my wife shot down the idea right away because it's American. Then I started showing her JD Power and Consumer Reports data and she changed her mind due in large part to the fact she had no idea that Buick was a top five brand in reliability categories most years.
How do you do that with a Pacifica? I don't know. I do know the top trim Pacifica is my favorite looking and engineered minivan on the market right now.
But then again my wife would rather drive Fred Flintstones's car than own a minivan ...
Last edited by charliemike; 10-06-2017 at 08:30 AM.
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