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Old 09-07-2017, 11:42 AM
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What the hell... how is that even possible?
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I think I'm one of the few people under 30 that seriously wants an LS. The only other demographic in my area that fits that are Vietnamese gangsters though
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an LS wut?
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Originally Posted by Costco
I think I'm one of the few people under 30 that seriously wants an LS. The only other demographic in my area that fits that are Vietnamese gangsters though
I had a 95 LS400, 2004 LS430, all in your age demographic. Then wife had the LS600h for 8 years. Excellent cars. Don't let your age dictate your vehicles.
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Originally Posted by Aman
What the hell... how is that even possible?
Filler neck is busted

Not sure why it's gushing out like that. Usually the rubber hose busts first, then upon inspection the neck gets replaced too.

Doesn't really make sense, the fuel pump should pull from the tank, not push it out. Making a total guess, it was a very hot day and they just (over)filled their tank.
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Originally Posted by Costco
Filler neck is busted

Not sure why it's gushing out like that. Usually the rubber hose busts first, then upon inspection the neck gets replaced too.

Doesn't really make sense, the fuel pump should pull from the tank, not push it out. Making a total guess, it was a very hot day and they just (over)filled their tank.
88 degrees at time I did the video.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
an LS wut?
LS 460. F-Sport to be specific

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I had a 95 LS400, 2004 LS430, all in your age demographic. Then wife had the LS600h for 8 years. Excellent cars. Don't let your age dictate your vehicles.
Oh I don't. It's just uncommon.

You didn't really see many Asians in 4th gen F-bodies, yet there I was...
Old 09-07-2017, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
LS 460. F-Sport to be specific
My bronamath has one.. it's nice.
Penguin boy said they have issues with all their control arms tho.. shrugs.jpg
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I was hoping your redneck asian ass was talking about an LSx.
Nothing wrong with owning an LS.. demographics are asian and old.. but fuck that.. it's a nice ride. I'd own one.
I almost bought a 430 over the TL.
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So I guess there was a recall on the FJ60 gas tanks, lol

Someone in there made a good point, don't top off your gas tank. I shake my head every time I hear somebody do that.

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Just don't let E. Honda near one.... he fucking hates Lexus
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Originally Posted by Majofo
My bronamath has one.. it's nice.
Penguin boy said they have issues with all their control arms tho.. shrugs.jpg
Yup and they aren't cheap to fix either, even with employee pricing. Had a coworker with one, luckily he's a tech so he replaced them on his own. His last name was Nguyen, about my age and he had sleeves on both arms

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I was hoping your redneck asian ass was talking about an LSx.
Nothing wrong with owning an LS.. demographics are asian and old.. but fuck that.. it's a nice ride. I'd own one.
I almost bought a 430 over the TL.
The luxury flagships blow me away every time I get into a new one. When I took auto classes we got to mess with a new LS. I didn't even know how to count all the speakers. There were some even within the seat. And the backseats reclined and were massaging. It was at that point that I wished I went to school for something else, or became a street pharmacist.
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Originally Posted by Costco
I think I'm one of the few people under 30 that seriously wants an LS. The only other demographic in my area that fits that are Vietnamese gangsters though
I'm barely over 30 and really want a LS to daily. They go for so cheap to get a mid 00's LS430 that it's really hard to not buy one at this point. Either that or a W220 S500...
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I'm 27 and I want an LS....

Oh, you're talking about Lexus..... NVM
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When I was under 30, I would have gladly driven an LS. Now that I'm not, I just can't afford to drive an LS. Nor a GS. Probably an IS though, but no more SportCross is a shame. So, yay Acra.
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Originally Posted by cu2wagon
When I was under 30, I would have gladly driven an LS. Now that I'm not, I just can't afford to drive an LS. Nor a GS. Probably an Audi though, you know, sport diff and cuck ride.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
I'm barely over 30 and really want a LS to daily. They go for so cheap to get a mid 00's LS430 that it's really hard to not buy one at this point. Either that or a W220 S500...
W220 > LS
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Originally Posted by cu2wagon
When I was under 30, I would have gladly driven an LS. Now that I'm not, I just can't afford to drive an LS. Nor a GS. Probably an IS though, but no more SportCross is a shame. So, yay Acra.
F-sport or nah?
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Originally Posted by Majofo
F-sport or nah?
When I was a mere yout, the F-Sprot wasn't a thing.

Nowadays, maybe.

But it doesn't matter; I'm currently equally likely to buy a LFA as I am any other Lexus. #ShrugLife
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Ok. So I wasn't the only one
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Originally Posted by cu2wagon
When I was a mere yout, the F-Sprot wasn't a thing.

Nowadays, maybe.

But it doesn't matter; I'm currently equally likely to buy a LFA as I am any other Lexus. #ShrugLife
Does it have foglights?
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W220 > LS
In overall terms...absolutely. In terms of reliability...other way around. Though that era Benz is actually quite good in terms of reliability.
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C5Z can be had for very cheap, but yeah the interior is complete trash haha I worked on both of those cars. NSX is such a beauty inside and out. Not even comparable.
Interesting. I was really eyeing the C5 Z06 as an affordable sports car but was afraid of the interior quality and it seems it is pretty bad. JS, I've seen your instagram photos and it seems like you do some great work on suede-ing up the interior.

I wonder if I procure certain kinds of custom interior services, similar to yourself, that the C5Z interior may be made to be more nicer feeling???

Originally Posted by Majofo
I was hoping your redneck asian ass was talking about an LSx.
Nothing wrong with owning an LS.. demographics are asian and old.. but fuck that.. it's a nice ride. I'd own one.
I almost bought a 430 over the TL.
Agreed, I love the Lexus LS line as well and just a tad over 30 here, lol. Great styling/luxury/reliability = awesome.

Now that I've moved to Honolulu, I actually see a fair amount of redneck Asians since they're the majority here in Hawaii. I see tons of lifted Tundras/Tacomas and occasional F-150/RAM/Chevy trucks as well. And they do some nice off-roading here in Hawaii as well with some great spots that can only get to with a lifted 4WD. Saw a tiny asian woman driving a large RAM lifted truck at a national park here as well lol. Certainly a very unique sight indeed...

On another note, I've got a company paid rental car for 6mo (National) so been trying out different cars. Drove a Jeep Wrangler 4door (interior features were lackluster, but of course its a Wrangler and you don't use it as a luxury daily), Accord Sport (very nice car and loved it except some doofus smoked like a chimney before my and it reeked my clothes in smoke), so just got a brand new 2017 CRV LX 2WD, fairly base trim with not much features but love the styling and this one had the nice alloy wheels. Love the interior, minimal blindspots, very nice LED turn signals in the back and DRL as well.

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^ You don't buy a Wrangler for the interior features.
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^ You don't buy a Wrangler for the interior features.
Indeed. It was very useful for other surfaces though that needed the 4WD capabilities.
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I love Hawaii. Got upgraded to a Wrangler Unlimited last time I went, had the roof off all the time, even in the rain

Being able to comfortably wear shorts, a tank top, and flip flops all day and night was perfect. When I went the temperature swing was only 9 degrees.
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Originally Posted by nist7
Interesting. I was really eyeing the C5 Z06 as an affordable sports car but was afraid of the interior quality and it seems it is pretty bad. JS, I've seen your instagram photos and it seems like you do some great work on suede-ing up the interior.

I wonder if I procure certain kinds of custom interior services, similar to yourself, that the C5Z interior may be made to be more nicer feeling???
I've done a few full interior job for C5Zs. Looks like a Porsche interior haha

And I stopped offering microsuede a long time ago. Switched to genuine Alcantara and high quality leather only.
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Originally Posted by nist7
Now that I've moved to Honolulu, I actually see a fair amount of redneck Asians since they're the majority here in Hawaii. I see tons of lifted Tundras/Tacomas and occasional F-150/RAM/Chevy trucks as well. And they do some nice off-roading here in Hawaii as well with some great spots that can only get to with a lifted 4WD. Saw a tiny asian woman driving a large RAM lifted truck at a national park here as well lol. Certainly a very unique sight indeed...
You're probably going to get raped there.
Definitely.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
In overall terms...absolutely. In terms of reliability...other way around. Though that era Benz is actually quite good in terms of reliability.
But I imagine you could get into one cheap enough to drive it for a bit & offload it before it provides any $$$ issues.
I don't recall how many miles my grandmother's '05 S430 had on it when she sold it, but I don't recall it ever needing anything outside of routine maintenance. Her '00 S430 was similar, but the infotainment was horrid on that one. I actually liked the '05 S430 over her '07 S550 (except the bump in power on the '07).
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Indeed. It was very useful for other surfaces though that needed the 4WD capabilities.
Yep. All of the trail rated Jeeps have far more capability than many owners will use. I'm sure you never even scratched the surface of the limits of the rental Wrangler.

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I've done a few full interior job for C5Zs. Looks like a Porsche interior haha

And I stopped offering microsuede a long time ago. Switched to genuine Alcantara and high quality leather only.
Pics?

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But I imagine you could get into one cheap enough to drive it for a bit & offload it before it provides any $$$ issues.
I don't recall how many miles my grandmother's '05 S430 had on it when she sold it, but I don't recall it ever needing anything outside of routine maintenance. Her '00 S430 was similar, but the infotainment was horrid on that one. I actually liked the '05 S430 over her '07 S550 (except the bump in power on the '07).
I agree but it's a lot easier to convince the next buyer that the Lexus is good to go over the Benz...makes for easier selling.
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I agree but it's a lot easier to convince the next buyer that the Lexus is good to go over the Benz...makes for easier selling.
True, solution, buy W220 S500, drive it until you have to sell your house to maintain it, live in S500
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Pics?
Will share some next week. Installed everything and the owner wanted his A-Pillars done so didn't take any photos yet haha
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I've done a few full interior job for C5Zs. Looks like a Porsche interior haha

And I stopped offering microsuede a long time ago. Switched to genuine Alcantara and high quality leather only.
Nice!!! This is a very intriguing concept and I might look into this for the future. Will await some nice pics as well!

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Definitely.


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Yep. All of the trail rated Jeeps have far more capability than many owners will use. I'm sure you never even scratched the surface of the limits of the rental Wrangler.
Definitely not and you're probably right. Many probably drive the Jeep for simply the brand/look.

Seeing as this is a public forum, I have no comment on my own personal Wranlger use except that it was a fine fine rental car on the fine paved roads of Hawaii.

But on a completely separate note, I was at the Big Island and at the summit of Mauna Kea, which has a sign posted that requires 4WD, there's about a 4-5 mile road that is unpaved that is washboarded....at the top it was loaded with rental Jeeps and rental SUVs. But I surmise it may not even be that neccessary as I actually saw a rental Hyundai Sonata coming down from the summit.....

There were also a few other roads to beaches that probably would've used the Wrangler's off-road abilities more.

One thing is for sure though....the Wrangler got pretty bad MPG relatively speaking, and combined that with the interior and slow acceleration...I would definitely use one only on an as needed basis for off-roading. Probably not a daily driver for me at all.

Of course in cities you see these Jeeps all the time (rental and personal) and I truly wonder how much of the Jeep's capabilities are these drivers actually using.

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Definitely not and you're probably right. Many probably drive the Jeep for simply the brand/look.

Seeing as this is a public forum, I have no comment on my own personal Wranlger use except that it was a fine fine rental car on the fine paved roads of Hawaii.

But on a completely separate note, I was at the Big Island and at the summit of Mauna Kea, which has a sign posted that requires 4WD, there's about a 4-5 mile road that is unpaved that is washboarded....at the top it was loaded with rental Jeeps and rental SUVs. But I surmise it may not even be that neccessary as I actually saw a rental Hyundai Sonata coming down from the summit.....

There were also a few other roads to beaches that probably would've used the Wrangler's off-road abilities more.

One thing is for sure though....the Wrangler got pretty bad MPG relatively speaking, and combined that with the interior and slow acceleration...I would definitely use one only on an as needed basis for off-roading. Probably not a daily driver for me at all.

Of course in cities you see these Jeeps all the time (rental and personal) and I truly wonder how much of the Jeep's capabilities are these drivers actually using.
I'm sure it's slim to none. Today I saw a new-ish Sahara with 33's or 35's on the stock suspension. Looks pretty cool...until the suspension articulates and rips off the fenders because their dumb ass just wanted to look cool. I'd wager that 80% of Jeeps sold don't see anything more than a gravel road.
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Cleaning interior of Acura TL 2014 Elite

hey guys, was wondering what do you guys use to clean the interior of your car? the material on my TL is a "Soft touch" material and I don't want to leave it sticky and greasy after using certain products. Please let me know what has worked for you. Also a really good leather cleaner or conditioner I normally wipe my cars down once every 2 weeks. I just purchased mine today so I'm looking for the right products to buy. Thank you
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AMG's Project One uses Lewis Hamilton’s V6. Meet five more that borrowed F1 power. Kinda

It’s here. AMG has finally revealed its F1 car for the road: the Project One, complete with its Lewis Hamilton-approved V6 turbo hybrid F1 engine. This is AMG’s attempt to blow the hypercar competition to pieces. News that no doubt flickered the eyebrows of Adrian Newey, hard at work with the Aston Martin-Red Bull dream-team creating their own road-going F1 car.

The AM-RB 001 is set to run a bespoke V12. That leaves the mystery Mercedes-AMG as the only car for years that uses an engine directly derived from motorsport in a machine you can pop for a cat food top-up in.

They’re such rare beasts, in fact, that we’ve delved into the archives to explore the murky world of cars that were never built for racing, but ran powerplants from motorsport’s grandest series.


1994 Ferrari F50

Probably the quintessential example of an F1 engine in a street car. Revealed to gasps in 1995, the F50 was powered by a 4.7-litre V12 that developed a heady 512bhp and 347lb ft, and redlined at 8500rpm. Mega numbers, but somewhat lower strung than the 3.5-litre, 700bhp V12 from which it was derived. The V12’s genesis was actually Maranello’s 1990 Formula One racer, the 641, which scored six wins that season.

The F50’s motorsport credentials were boosted by the engine block’s role as a stressed member of the chassis. Essentially, the car’s rear suspension was bolted directly to the V12 block, which in turn was stuck straight to the carbon chassis, creating an incredibly stiff (not to mention vibration-prone) platform for Ferrari to base its F40-suceeding supercar upon.


1988 Alfa Romeo 164 ProCar

In 1988, Formula One races were supported by the BMW M1 Procar series, where F1 drivers duked it out in track-ready BMW supercars ahead of getting into their single-seaters for the main event. But by the end of the Eighties, the M1 was old and the series needed reinventing, and Bernie Ecclestone hit upon the idea of each engine manufacturer slotting their F1-powering wares into a humdrum saloon. He called it Formula S. ‘Touring Cars on Acid’ would’ve been more appropriate.

Alfa was straight out of the blocks, jamming a 600bhp V10 into a 750kg Brabham chassis, cloaked in carbon-kevlar one-piece panels closely resembling the contemporary 164 saloon. The resulting banshee-in-a-business suit could go from 0-62mph in under 2.5 seconds and top out at 217mph.

Tragically, Alfa’s enthusiasm for Formula S wasn’t matched by the likes of Ferrari, BMW and McLaren-Honda, so the series was canned before the 164 ProCar ever actually got chance to race, hence it qualifying for our list here. It’s easily the only repmobile ever made that’s capable of a noise (and lap times) comparable to an F1 racer, despite what those cocky A4 TDI owners who inhabit online forums will tell you.


1995 Renault Espace F1

It’s not just Italians who can get merry with the spanners and house an F1 engine somewhere it ought never to have lived. The French, and more specifically Renault, used the excuse of the Espace’s 10th birthday coinciding with a decade in F1 to bring the two entities together, in the absurd, brilliant form of the Renault-Matra Espace F1.

What we love about the Espace F1 is that it wasn’t just a regular family van hastily converted for warp-factor propulsion. The body was an exquisite, one-off carbonfibre creation. The brakes were carbon-ceramic. And the V10 engine, half-inched from the Renault-Williams FW15C, was actually tuned up, from a competition-spec 691bhp to some 790bhp, driving the rear wheels via a six-speed automated transmission.

Despite having the aerodynamics of an aircraft hangar, the Espace F1 was capable of reaching 62mph in 2.8 seconds, mashing to 124mph in under seven seconds, and topping out at 194mph. Renault even fitted it with four seats – spare a thought for any rearward passengers who effectively had to straddle the 3.5-litre, 40-valve monster pushing the world’s fastest MPV along.

Mind you, it’s not the most unlikely vehicle an F1 engine has been used to pep up…


1994 Ford Supervan 3

Ford made a habit out of cramming race engines into widebody Transits for decades. The first used a GT40 V8, the second a Cosworth DFV 3.9-litre V8 good for 500bhp. But Supervan really reached its zenith when it was rebuilt into the third iteration in 1994, complete with a Cosworth HB 3.5-litre F1 V8. The numbers were savage. Power was rated at 730bhp at 13,500rpm, while the van itself weighed in at an Elise-like 890kg.

Supervan 3 spent seven years on promotional duties (presumably ones supporting hearing aids) before it was retired in 2001. Its spirit is kept alive today in the white vans of gentlemen invariably following your rear bumper at a distance of four inches in the outside lane of any given British motorway.


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2003 Porsche Carrera GT

If you were lucky enough to buy a Porsche Carrera GT when brand new in 2004, its engine already had a few metaphorical miles on the clock. See, the 5.7-litre, 612bhp V10 mounted in a carbon lattice behind the driver could actually trace its lineage back to a Porsche-designed F1 engine intended for the Footwork F1 team as early as 1992.

When that project was canned, a bored-out version of the V10 was earmarked for use in Porsche’s burgeoning Le Mans prototype, due to compete in 1999. However, regulation changes and a desire to concentrate manpower on the Cayenne SUV killed off the project, so the V10 was again left homeless.

By the turn of the Millennium, Porsche’s fortunes were back in rude health thanks in no small part to the cash-generation of the Cayenne SUV. Buoyed by this success and a positively received concept car, Porsche accelerated the Carrera GT into production in 2003, completing part of 2000’s original holy trinity of supercars, against the Ferrari Enzo and Mercedes SLR McLaren.

Complete with its beechwood-topped manual transmission, spartan cabin and ultra-clean silhouette, the Carrera GT was unarguably the purest of its contemporaries, and thanks to the naturally aspirated V10 at its heart, it also boasted the least diluted motorsport pedigree.

It’s a rare thing, an F1 engine that enjoys a retirement repreive in something mere mortals can drive. Over to you, AMG.

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Anyone know if the CGT's V10 is related to the R8 or Lambos?
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You guys see C&D's new VIR results..
The new ZL1 and ZL1 1LE are mythical.. we saw Nurburgring results.. but not matched against the rest.
Spanked the fucking shit out of just about everyone.. including latest track edition GT-R and 911 Turbo S

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