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if any of you guessed even one of those cars correctly (make and model)
you need to reflect on your life choices and the path you have taken to get to this point
If any of you guessed even one of those cars correctly (make and model)
You need to reflect on your life choices and the path you have taken to get to this point
You're right. I should've lived in a better neighborhood where there weren't so many Tibs flying around.
When I first started driving, a friend gave me a good tip, to unload the transmission by letting off the gas, shifting it into neutral, then depressing the clutch, and finally shifting into gear in one fluid motion. I end up shifting smoother than the owners of the car if they don't use this technique.
I don't think there's any extra wear on the synchros or anything else. After all, I clutch in to go into gear. Right?
I've always driven this way, in old cars and new. Domestic and imports.
I feel like there is no harm. Shifting into gear without the clutch even if done properly, causes more wear on the synchros. But you're disengaging the gears, not meshing them. Very important that you fully lift off the gas before pulling the shifter out.
Never noted any rougher shifting or slipping clutches in any of my cars. It's faster and smoother.
When you perform clutchless shifting, you are creating a large amount of unneeded wear on your synchros. By wearing these out, you'll be required to rebuild your transmission sooner than by utilizing normal shifting methods. With the clutchless method you are using, you are causing these the synchros to attempt to mesh until the correct rpm is met, even if it is for a short period of time. This is where the wear will occur. Even if it is a short period of time, there is just about no way you can hit this exact every time. If you feel that you are, you are more than likely fooling yourself. Any resistance during the shift is unneeded wear on the synchros.
Even if you're off the gas, that doesn't at all mean the transmission is unloaded. It's definitely still being driven by the engine. The clutch is there to actually unload the transmission lol.
to be clear, Costco isn't talking about clutchless shifting
He's just popping it into neutral before disengaging the clutch to pop it into gear
If anything, as long as the trans is coming down, he's saving wear on the clutch
to be clear, Costco isn't talking about clutchless shifting
He's just popping it into neutral before disengaging the clutch to pop it into gear
If anything, as long as the trans is coming down, he's saving wear on the clutch
oh. I think I understood it wrong, I thought he meant shifting the car out of gear and into neutral without using the clutch.
to be clear, Costco isn't talking about clutchless shifting
He's just popping it into neutral before disengaging the clutch to pop it into gear
If anything, as long as the trans is coming down, he's saving wear on the clutch
How is he saving wear on the clutch? The clutch doesn't wear when you disengage, only upon engagement. Shifting out of gear and into neutral without using the clutch isn't doing anything to save wear on the clutch and it's doing some unknown thing to the rest of the transmission.
Originally Posted by srika
oh. I think I understood it wrong, I thought he meant shifting the car out of gear and into neutral without using the clutch.
Letting off the gas and then shifting into neutral without the clutch, then depressing the clutch and shifting into the next gear? First I've ever heard of that technique. Why not just double clutch with that process?
I dont know the purpose of that... but it seems like it s a much slower process since you have to do the clutch in the middle of the shifting process vs. Clutch pedal to the floor until the process is completed.
i also dont thnk it will help with the smoothness since it is the same thing at the very end (letting go the clutch)
what? if i am understanding this correctly, someone has one of the slowest shifting time
Originally Posted by SamDoe1
How is he saving wear on the clutch? The clutch doesn't wear when you disengage, only upon engagement. Shifting out of gear and into neutral without using the clutch isn't doing anything to save wear on the clutch and it's doing some unknown thing to the rest of the transmission.
wear on the throwout bearing
If he disengages in gear it's taking the shock of both assemblies
If he disengages in neutral, the trans isn't working against the clutch
Letting off the gas and then shifting into neutral without the clutch, then depressing the clutch and shifting into the next gear? First I've ever heard of that technique. Why not just double clutch with that process?
Too much wear on the clutch
and Costco is a buster
Just do what a certain friend of ours does. Drive around in your TLX v6 always in 2nd gear. Chicks dig that. Plus, loud noises.
Friend
Is this the type of friend who you share beers with?
Or the type of friend you and your bros eiffel tower his daughter with?
Asking for a friend
Friend
Is this the type of friend who you share beers with?
Or the type of friend you and your bros eiffel tower his daughter with?
Asking for a friend
There should never be higher than normal resistance when getting into or out of gear. Should pull out of gear with a finger or two.
Your clutch pedal should pass the catch point completely before the shifter goes into the next gate.
I basically only do the into neutral thing without the clutch during braking or immediately after lifting off the gas completely. Again, it should feel very natural.
I still clutch in to go N when coasting in traffic. You will feel the resistance when the drivetrain isn't unloaded.
If you aren't weetoddid and it's done correctly, it will be much easier to drive smoothly.
10-16-2018, 11:24 AM
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