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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 12:57 PM
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I'm not arguing with you... I'm arguing with oonowindoo

I agree on your definitions btw
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 01:07 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 01:14 PM
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I am not arguing with you. what you talking about?.
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 01:32 PM
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Good argument, guys.
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 01:38 PM
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hah, this is classic.
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by nist7
That 924 shooting brake is ugly AF....sorry just my opinion.....
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 01:39 PM
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I'd call it timeless
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 02:19 PM
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I don't judge if people like it though....if that's what floats your boat...go for it!!!
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 02:26 PM
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Says teh guy on CTR's nuts
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nist7


I don't judge if people like it though....if that's what floats your boat...go for it!!!
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 02:37 PM
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Best / Worst 5 yr depreciation:


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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 02:42 PM
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Nissan Leaf depreciation is crazy
I've been thinking of picking up a 5 year old one for shits
I see some for like 5-6k
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 02:49 PM
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Hi just bought 2019 RDX - great car- have a question- after rain storm I open back Door and noticed rain drops coming from bottom of door- is this normal? Never saw this before- car dealer did not believe it is an issue- thanks
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 03:10 PM
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Yes, there are drain holes in the bottom of the door to drain out any water in the door.
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 03:16 PM
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Thanks- when I open rear doors after rain- drops of water come out- shouldn’t it drain out on its own? Several hours after rain


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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 04:34 PM
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That I don't know. I don't know what the design of the door is on the new RDX but it sounds like you already went to the dealership and they told you it was ok. If there's water getting into the car then absolutely go back but if not I'd say you're fine.
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 04:38 PM
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Get it in writing. That way, if you have any damage, you can show Acura corporate the dealership lied to you.
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 07:59 PM
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My buyer for the Avant is flying in tomorrow morning from Vegas. Excited to get it off to someone else! I beat out Carmax and Shift by $4500 so I'm happy enough
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Old Oct 11, 2018 | 10:30 PM
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Thought this was a sick pic on C&D today. It’s the first time I’ve seen a photo of a 959 under hard acceleration like this.

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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Well, let's put them into statements, shall we?

The Aztek's ugly is timeless. It's angles will forever be a classic example of how not to design a car...until the X6 showed up.

Okay fine. They mean the same.
The Aztek's ugly is classic. Its angles will forever be a timeless example of how not to design a car...until the ZDX showed up.



Hmmm. I'm not sure that I would consider them 100% interchangeable. Timeless means "always was, always will be considered <insert adjective here>. Classic implies a superlative (positive or negative) from the past.
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 07:32 AM
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I guess we measure utility more than we thought. I think Jeep's depreciation is low because they seem to be the in thing now. Very surprised Impreza beat out Accord and Camry. I assume electric cars are high because the battery replacement is pricey. At least that's why I'm weary about them. Need to shop for used 7/S series.
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 09:27 AM
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They’ve been the in thing for the last decade.
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 09:30 AM
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Jeep sales only took off once they introduced the 4 door version. Now every white trash, tub of lard drives one. At least that’s how it is in my city.

They drive like like shit down the highway. They have FCA reliability. And yet everyone thinks a five year old model is worth 75% of its original price?

As for utility... sure, if you go off-roading. Which most people don’t. Otherwise you can’t tow much. It doesn’t have any more storage than a typical suv. The interior is on the spartan side. I don’t know why people are so crazy for them.

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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 10:45 AM
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https://www.autoblog.com/2018/10/11/...lights-safety/

WASHINGTON — The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on Thursday said it was moving to allow advanced headlights known as "adaptive driving beams" to be used in vehicles on U.S. roads, a technology that could help prevent nighttime crashes.

The agency said it was acting in response to a petition filed by Toyota in 2013 to allow the lights, which provide more illumination than existing lights without a glare to oncoming motorists by using additional sensors to automatically adjust lights.

NHTSA said the lights offer "potentially significant safety benefits in avoiding collisions with pedestrians, cyclists, animals, and roadside objects."

The headlights have been permitted in Europe for more than a decade and are also allowed in Japan and other countries.

Volkswagen AG also petitioned the agency in 2016 to allow the lights on its Audi A7 luxury cars, while BMW AG filed a similar petition in October 2017.

The problem is the lights ran afoul of U.S. rules setting maximum levels for lower beams.

The agency noted that a recent study by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety found that pedestrian deaths in dark conditions jumped 56 percent from 2009 to 2016.

At the direction of Congress, NHTSA began extensive research into the impact of nighttime glare in 2005.

Unlike some automatic headlight switch systems from high to low beams, adaptive headlights use sensors, cameras, data-processing software, and headlamp hardware to detect oncoming and preceding vehicles and automatically adjust the headlamp beams.

NHTSA said it was proposing to amend current safety rules that bar the advanced lights but will still need to take final action after receiving public comment before it can the allow the new lights. The agency is also proposing new test measures to ensure the systems work as planned.

NHTSA has received thousands of complaints about headlight glare over the past four decades, especially with the introduction of halogen lights in the late 1970s and then high-intensity discharge lights in the 1990s.
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 10:46 AM
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With how many cars have 'Poor' headlight ratings, I'm amazed they haven't worked quicker/harder to amend the DOT rules sooner.
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Jeep sales only took off once they introduced the 4 door version. Now every white trash, tub of lard drives one. At least that’s how it is in my city.

They drive like like shit down the highway. They have FCA reliability. And yet everyone thinks a five year old model is worth 75% of its original price?

As for utility... sure, if you go off-roading. Which most people don’t. Otherwise you can’t tow much. It doesn’t have any more storage than a typical suv. The interior is on the spartan side. I don’t know why people are so crazy for them.
If we had anything outside of 'gettin' muddy' around here, I'd be more inclined to have something like a Jeep or T4R.
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
With how many cars have 'Poor' headlight ratings, I'm amazed they haven't worked quicker/harder to amend the DOT rules sooner.
About fkng time!!!!! There are quite a few features related to lighting all disabled on my order sheet. It annoys the shit out of me knowing i have to advanced features in my car but i have no access to them
I know i can get them via coding. But car is a lease, dont wanna mess with it.

Features we are missing but available everywhere else (3 and 5 series with adaptive LED):

The ability to self adjust brightness based on your surrounding light (Street light and etc...)
No dazzle adaptive Highbeam as seen in the video below. Dont confuse that with the crap we have US also called adaptive LED with high beam assist. completely different things.

Note, this video is at least 6 years ago with cars from previous Gen.



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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Jeep sales only took off once they introduced the 4 door version. Now every white trash, tub of lard drives one. At least that’s how it is in my city.

They drive like like shit down the highway. They have FCA reliability. And yet everyone thinks a five year old model is worth 75% of its original price?

As for utility... sure, if you go off-roading. Which most people don’t. Otherwise you can’t tow much. It doesn’t have any more storage than a typical suv. The interior is on the spartan side. I don’t know why people are so crazy for them.
Jeep thing blew up here like in the last few years. Mind you FL is as flat as a pancake so you got to hit some trails that are pretty far to enjoy it. Utility comment was meant for the pickups and SUV's on the list.
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
I guess we measure utility more than we thought. I think Jeep's depreciation is low because they seem to be the in thing now. Very surprised Impreza beat out Accord and Camry. I assume electric cars are high because the battery replacement is pricey. At least that's why I'm weary about them. Need to shop for used 7/S series.
Jeep's depreciation is low because there's nothing else like it on the road and people want them. They will start depreciating even less now with how expensive a new one is.

The leaf and volt have shit depreciation because the manufacturers subsidized the hell out of the leases to move cars. Now there's no reason to pay the same for an off lease model vs a new one hence the value of the used tanking.

Originally Posted by TacoBello
Jeep sales only took off once they introduced the 4 door version. Now every white trash, tub of lard drives one. At least that’s how it is in my city.

They drive like like shit down the highway. They have FCA reliability. And yet everyone thinks a five year old model is worth 75% of its original price?

As for utility... sure, if you go off-roading. Which most people don’t. Otherwise you can’t tow much. It doesn’t have any more storage than a typical suv. The interior is on the spartan side. I don’t know why people are so crazy for them.
They suck on road, amazing off road but they are selling a lifestyle not a vehicle. Even if people never use it off road, they are still buying the image of the lifestyle that goes along with it much like 99.9999999% of people who buy North Face clothing will never use it to go climb a mountain.

These days, however, you need to be pretty fucking affluent to afford a new Wrangler. A 2018 unlimited rubicon optioned up will easily crest $50k.
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 01:29 PM
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I heard the JL's are suffering from bad welds and a steering component can come loose. The Jeep wobble is alive and well.
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Jeep's depreciation is low because there's nothing else like it on the road and people want them. They will start depreciating even less now with how expensive a new one is.

They suck on road, amazing off road but they are selling a lifestyle not a vehicle. Even if people never use it off road, they are still buying the image of the lifestyle that goes along with it much like 99.9999999% of people who buy North Face clothing will never use it to go climb a mountain.

These days, however, you need to be pretty fucking affluent to afford a new Wrangler. A 2018 unlimited rubicon optioned up will easily crest $50k.
Agreed. Very much a lifestyle symbol/status symbol.

Also moderately to well to do white chicks love wranglers for some reason....
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nist7
Agreed. Very much a lifestyle symbol/status symbol.

Also moderately to well to do white chicks love wranglers for some reason....
And Crossfit coaches.

Jeeps suck for regular use. Sorry
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 04:00 PM
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Agreed. Very much a lifestyle symbol/status symbol.

Also moderately to well to do white chicks love wranglers for some reason....
Here, you must be a fat ass as a pre-qualifier to be able to buy one. So many fat asses drive these things, between the ages of 25-45. Male, female, married, single, doesn't matter. So long as they're 50+ pounds overweight.
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 04:35 PM
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Sounds like Jeeps are a regional thing
99% of Jeep owners here are poser douchebags like Kurt said
Toyota dropped the ball when they didn't produce a drop top FJ
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 04:45 PM
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Here, you must be a fat ass as a pre-qualifier to be able to buy one. So many fat asses drive these things, between the ages of 25-45. Male, female, married, single, doesn't matter. So long as they're 50+ pounds overweight.
This is the US in general so maybe we're just talking about the same thing anyway.

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Sounds like Jeeps are a regional thing
99% of Jeep owners here are poser douchebags like Kurt said
Toyota dropped the ball when they didn't produce a drop top FJ
Same here. Most Jeeps are so bro'ed out that they look like ass. The ones that actually go off road have slightly larger tires, stock wheels, maybe a mild OEM+ bumper mod, and that's about it. The ones with light bars, roof racks, big ass bumpers, flashy wheels, etc have probably only hopped a curb or two, that's about it.
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Well, the Vaporcar is inching close to Solid state...update from stealership is that she's been built. ETA onto Canadarkian soil is mid-November with a cross-country trip to me right after that. So, ETA...yeah, snowstorm month.


Amusingly (not), today, I'm in the midst of a snowstorm here in this city.
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 04:49 PM
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Well, the Vaporcar is inching close to Solid state...update from stealership is that she's been built. ETA onto Canadarkian soil is mid-November with a cross-country trip to me right after that. So, ETA...yeah, snowstorm month.


Amusingly (not), today, I'm in the midst of a snowstorm here in this city.
perfect time for you to test out what the Cuckttro is all about.

We are still in the high 80s right now...
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
perfect time for you to test out what the Cuckttro is all about.

We are still in the high 80s right now...
You foo. I'm ...you know I can't drive let alone in snow.



And I hope you burn to a crisp in that 80 weather.
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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 05:13 PM
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To be honest, i actually miss the low 50s high 40 Vancouver temperature.

So cal weather is like a good steak... but it does not matter how good it is, if you eat it everyday 3 meals a day, you will eventually get sick of it.
I would want some rice next
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